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Mundine slams Daley and Beetson

firechild

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Anthony clearly models his public "persona" on Ali.

And tries to ad lib like him, but obviously isn't as witty or smart, and ends up saying shit that Im sure even he regrets later.


Floats like a butterfly

Stings like a bee

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Sleeps like a log.
 

Canard

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Gotta also say he is LONG odds at winning tonight, not that it means much in a one on one sport.

But most consider that Geale will win easily. Where to from there for "the Man" if he indeed does lose?

His payday's are certainly on the downward spiral, and this not only affects his ability to earn but his "mates" in Money Bill and Quade "Parra wanted me for $700K per, now Im worth less than Purtell" Cooper.

Geale and Co aren't interested in making part time boxers rich so their gravy train is soon running out of juice.
 

magpie4ever

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There are approximately 150 world champions in the sport of boxing today, Mundine has never been a legitimate world champion. Only in boxing, a sport run by greedy promoters do they have 2 world champions in the same division for the same organisation.
Sure he's done well but if he'd done a few things differently he could've achieved a whole lot more in league (like winning the 99 grand final). In boxing he's had his chance to win legitimate belts but either got beat or turned down the fight.

Given the history of boxing; the 3 legitimate belts are the WBC, WBA and IBF. The IBO, WBF, IBC and WBO are blow-ins.

Love him or loathe him, Mundine has been a recognised World Champion in boxing, to say different is not recognising Ali, Foreman, Leonard, Hagler etc as world champions.
 

Frenzy.

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Hate him or love him.

I'm ambivalent. Doesn't matter what he says or does he doesn't hold an important enough place in my world for me to care one way or the other.

Just selling a fight people! And your reactions are exactly what he wants. You are just making him richer! If you really want to stick it up him, don't talk about him to anyone.

Precisely.

If posts on LU made you richer Cronulla would be the wealthiest club in the comp.

Is it only on LU that he has got people talking?

Mundine succeeded: he got added attention to what was already going to be a good fight. I wish he, like Geale, let the actual fight do the promoting as opposed to lowering himself to "shock comments" to hype the fight.

Yes he has succeeded and although the vast minority of people here wouldn't admit it his fans are going to buy the fight to see him win and a large amount of people will buy the fight hoping to see him lose. Personally, I won't be doing either.

Give the dude credit.....he did walk out on the Dragons twice!

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Edward

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Mundine is a genuinely nice person in real-life, I've met him more than once and know this for a fact.

However, the way he sells his fights puts a lot of people off side. But, this is all to cover up the fact that he is an extremely ordinary professional boxer.

He may die a rich man, and he may have set his family up for life with a small fortune, but nothing can take away from the fact that he simply is not a good, world-class boxer. His record below shows this.

Link: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=14646&cat=boxer

He was a much better rugby league player, and should have stuck to that sport.
 

newman

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Can anyone who actually knows something about boxing give me an objective run down of his chances?
 

Canard

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Is it only on LU that he has got people talking?

Clearly not, but the poster was insinuating that any further posts on the topic on this forum were somehow making Anthony richer. I think its important to have a forum to discuss this stuff, without the "censorship" of posters saying "Stop talking about it" constantly. If they don't want to discuss it fine, but don't post in said forum then.

I very much doubt that this prattle will result in any further uptake of a PPV fight that is only hours away.

Can anyone who actually knows something about boxing give me an objective run down of his chances?

I don't know the front end of a glove from the back end, but the vast majority consider Geale to be a much improved fighter from the last time they meet and the clear favourite to win this contest.
 

Señor

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:p

Complains about racism then claims he was "gypped" by the selectors. It's a good thing that the Roma population in Australia isn't very outspoken. Basically the same as saying he was "jewed" out of a Test jersey except that nobody calls him out on it.
 

magpie4ever

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Can anyone who actually knows something about boxing give me an objective run down of his chances?

Mundine is a chance; undoubtly past his peak - which was probably the Greene fight. I recently rewatched Mundine v Geale No:1 - I had Mundine in front on the score card - so, I believe, it was a fair result.

Geale has since won two titles IBF and WBA against German World Champions in Germany; a difficult task.

Geale on the rise, Mundine past it. I would favour Geale on points; but a Mundine victory would not surprise, if he can have one more night as he had against Danny Greene.
 
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Ram Man

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Mundine is a chance; undoubtly past his peak - which was probably the Green fight. I recently rewatched Mundine v Geale No:1 - I had Mundine in front on the score card - so, I believe, it was a fair result.

Geale has since won two titles IBF and WBA against German World Champions in Germany; a difficult task.

Geale on the rise, Mundine past it. I would favour Geale on points; but a Mundine victory would not surprise, if he can have one more night as he had against Danny Greene.

He would need a better night then when he fought Green.
Green was clearly suffering from the masssive weight cut...Mundine won the fight fair and square but doesnt take a genius to recognise Green was no where near his best. Geale is a better fighter in the right weight division. Mundine does have a punchers chance but I think Geale will be too good.
Geale has been fighting some very handy boxers in their own backyard, where Mundine has been overseas (US) once and fought a guy well past it in Bronco McCart.
IMO this is Mundines last cash grab and if Geale wins will probably get a rematch which will be his retirement fund.
 

magpie4ever

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He would need a better night then when he fought Green.
Green was clearly suffering from the masssive weight cut...Mundine won the fight fair and square but doesnt take a genius to recognise Green was no where near his best. Geale is a better fighter in the right weight division. Mundine does have a punchers chance but I think Geale will be too good.
Geale has been fighting some very handy boxers in their own backyard, where Mundine has been overseas (US) once and fought a guy well past it in Bronco McCart.
IMO this is Mundines last cash grab and if Geale wins will probably get a rematch which will be his retirement fund.

Strange, I believe Mundine was at his peak that night and probably would have beaten any super middle weight in the world at that time.
 

Ram Man

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Strange, I believe Mundine was at his peak that night and probably would have beaten any super middle weight in the world at that time.

He did what he needed to do.
You may be right but the fact remains that Green went down a lot of weight just to get a chance at fighting Mundine.
Like I said he won the fight, no doubt but its not like he was facing a genuine super middle weight when Green is now fighting at Cruiserweight.

Losing 14 kilos for a boxer who already cuts to make Cruiserweight will drain anyone and will clearly affect thier ability to be effective.

I think Mundine is a pretty handy boxer to be honest, his hand speed is ridiculous, but I would still sayhe needs to be better than the Green fight to get over Geale.
 

super_coach

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I can understand the guy trying to get all the press he can,he probably is on some sort of kick back if the fight is taken up by x amount of people but you don't bag the likes of Big Artie to fill your own pockets.Chocks days in the sun are fast coming to a end,thank heavens
 

magpie4ever

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He did what he needed to do.
You may be right but the fact remains that Green went down a lot of weight just to get a chance at fighting Mundine.
Like I said he won the fight, no doubt but its not like he was facing a genuine super middle weight when Green is now fighting at Cruiserweight.

Losing 14 kilos for a boxer who already cuts to make Cruiserweight will drain anyone and will clearly affect thier ability to be effective.

I think Mundine is a pretty handy boxer to be honest, his hand speed is ridiculous, but I would still sayhe needs to be better than the Green fight to get over Geale.

Greene suggested he needed to lose weight to come in at super middle weight; but the fact is all Greene's previous fights as a pro were at Super middle weight - it was straight after the Mundine fight that he went to light heavy and cruiserweight.
 

magpie4ever

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To get this right, I'm no fan of Mundine's antics re: carry on and pre-fight antics; but we need to seperate fact from ficition. Mundine has been a legitimate world boxing champion and he did beat Greene when they were both supermiddle weights, albeit, Greene immediately went up a weight division after the Mundine fight.
 

El Diablo

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To get this right, I'm no fan of Mundine's antics re: carry on and pre-fight antics; but we need to seperate fact from ficition. Mundine has been a legitimate world boxing champion and he did beat Greene when they were both supermiddle weights, albeit, Greene immediately went up a weight division after the Mundine fight.

He has never held any legit belt as champ

The legit belts are the WBC, WBA and IBF

He at one stage did hold the WBA belt but he was not the legit champ seeing at the time he held it Sven Ottke was the "super champ".

When the WBA has a Super Champion nobody considers the regular champion to be a legit title as how can one belt have two world champions in the same weight division?
 

Mr Saab

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To get this right, I'm no fan of Mundine's antics re: carry on and pre-fight antics; but we need to seperate fact from ficition. Mundine has been a legitimate world boxing champion and he did beat Greene when they were both supermiddle weights, albeit, Greene immediately went up a weight division after the Mundine fight.

Name me one boxer who has cred that he beat? He lost to Kessler, lost to Ottke, hell he even lost to a boxer who was on a reality show!
As well as Manny Siaca!!!

He acts like has won as many titles as Floyd Mayweather, when in fact he is a boxing nobody on the world stage.
 
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