New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

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The Wrap: Super Rugby’s two-speed expansion so far provides multiple headaches – The Roar

 

[Wb1234]

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Warriors second on the ladder. The coming Rugby League Tsunami is going to deal a massive blow to NZ Rugby Union

 

[titoelcolombiano]

The Wrap: Super Rugby’s two-speed expansion so far provides multiple headaches – The Roar

For starters, despite some excellent rugby being played every weekend, Super Rugby is failing – as it has done for some seasons now – to hook fans and keep them engaged.

I love it how it never occurs to them that the fans aren't engaged because excellent Rugby isn't being played. The only excellent Rugby being played in our region of the world is in the NRL.

 

[Gobsmacked]

For starters, despite some excellent rugby being played every weekend, Super Rugby is failing – as it has done for some seasons now – to hook fans and keep them engaged.

I love it how it never occurs to them that the fans aren't engaged because excellent Rugby isn't being played. The only excellent Rugby being played in our region of the world is in the NRL.

I love that contradiction too.
They look at thier game like abstract art that only the purists can appreciate, then wonder why the common man has no interest.
That's the pompous attitude alone would put anyone off.

 

[Vibing]

For starters, despite some excellent rugby being played every weekend, Super Rugby is failing – as it has done for some seasons now – to hook fans and keep them engaged.

I love it how it never occurs to them that the fans aren't engaged because excellent Rugby isn't being played. The only excellent Rugby being played in our region of the world is in the NRL.

what they're realising is bad NRL is better then exellent rugby

 

[Gobsmacked]

If the eligibility criteria for the Wallabies is open to overseas players, that effectively makes the Super Rugby franchises in Australia irrelevant.
What happens next is the gap widens between NZ and Australia making the comp irrelevant.
The comp gets scrapped and both NZ and Australia open their eligibility to all overseas players. Meaning no quality Union players left in the Pacific.
NRL becomes not only the best but the only professional Rugby competition in the Pacific.

‘Whatever he wants’: Three words that indicate RA will tweak policy for RWC as uncapped OS Wallaby emerges – The Roar

 

[Wb1234]

Anyone got the full article

 

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Anyone got the full article

Without going into it. Playing overseas for 3 years is worth a lot more then 20 million!
What the Warriors did for Rugby league and the NRL was too quickly forgotten.
At the very least we should have the magic round at Eden Park.

Perhaps the reward will be another team in NZ with magic round to coincide with their entrance ..

 

[Perth Red]

Without going into it. Playing overseas for 3 years is worth a lot more then 20 million!
What the Warriors did for Rugby league and the NRL was too quickly forgotten.
At the very least we should have the magic round at Eden Park.

Perhaps the reward will be another team in NZ with magic round to coincide with their entrance ..

Im not sure adding another competitor to them for fans and sponsors is a great reward for the Warriors lol

 

[Wb1234]

Im not sure adding another competitor to them for fans and sponsors is a great reward for the Warriors lol

Who said anything about another team in Auckland

 

[Gobsmacked]

Im not sure adding another competitor to them for fans and sponsors is a great reward for the Warriors lol

f**k off back to the delusion thread.

 

[The Great Dane]

Without going into it. Playing overseas for 3 years is worth a lot more then 20 million!
What the Warriors did for Rugby league and the NRL was too quickly forgotten.
At the very least we should have the magic round at Eden Park.

Perhaps the reward will be another team in NZ with magic round to coincide with their entrance ..

People trying to frame the Warriors as selfless heroes is so weird to me.

Everything the Warrior did they did to save their own hide, not as some selfless act to "save the game" or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with that and I commend them for their perseverance. Many other clubs in the league would have quickly folded under the pressure they sustained. But in saying that, the NRL would have had them replaced in a heartbeat had they folded, and RL would have kept ticking along just fine without the current owners of the Warriors.

Odds are that the Warriors themselves would still exist as well, as the most likely scenario would have been the owners losing unsustainable amounts of money on the club, failing to find a suitable buyer during the pandemic, then choosing to hand ownership of the club and license back over to the NRL. At which point the NRL would have bankrolled them until after the pandemic, got them in good shape, then sold them on to new owners like nothing had ever happened.

 

[Gobsmacked]

People trying to frame the Warriors as selfless heroes is so weird to me.

Everything the Warrior did they did to save their own hide, not as some selfless act to "save the game" or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with that and I commend them for their perseverance. Many other clubs in the league would have quickly folded under the pressure they sustained. But in saying that, the NRL would have had them replaced in a heartbeat had they folded, and RL would have kept ticking along just fine without the current owners of the Warriors.

Odds are that the Warriors themselves would still exist as well, as the most likely scenario would have been the owners losing unsustainable amounts of money on the club, failing to find a suitable buyer during the pandemic, then choosing to hand ownership of the club and license back over to the NRL. At which point the NRL would have bankrolled them until after the pandemic, got them in good shape, then sold them on to new owners like nothing had ever happened.

Geez bit light on empathy mate.
All the players, coaches and all thier families relocated for 3 years.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's more than you've ever done for the game.

 

[The Great Dane]

Geez bit light on empathy mate.
All the players, coaches and all thier families relocated for 3 years.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's more than you've ever done for the game.

All of which was done out of self preservation to save their jobs and keep the money flowing into their bank accounts, not as some noble sacrifice to the game. Again, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but let's not make it out to be something that it's not.

BTW, I've spent significantly longer away from family and home for work in the past, for significantly less money on average as well I might add. It's not half as big a deal as many are trying to make out.

 

[MugaB]

Who said anything about another team in Auckland

Ive mentioned it before, one thats south around hamilton, keeps a local rivalary, but it was a thought a better idea than wellington, who aren't exactly sports or league heavy, or Christchurch who are RU heavy in terms of support

 

[Gobsmacked]

All of which was done out of self preservation to save their jobs and keep the money flowing into their bank accounts, not as some noble sacrifice to the game. Again, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but let's not make it out to be something that it's not.

BTW, I've spent significantly longer away from family and home for work in the past, for significantly less money on average as well I might add. It's not half as big a deal as many are trying to make out.

I don't get it. What's your argument here? f**k em ?
You weren't supplemented for working away? You don't think you made a sacrifice for your company and don't deserve some respect for that?

I sure you'll have a retort but you could just say " I suppose they sacrificed a lot and thanks " give it a try

 

[Foreign Legion]

FACT:

Rugby Union in New Zealand is a lot like Australian Cricket only 23% of the country take it seriously with the media declaring it a national sport that everyone supports to prop up its status.
Just ask 2 time Wimbledon champion Ivan Lendl.

 

[Gobsmacked]

FACT:

Rugby Union in New Zealand is a lot like Australian Cricket only 23% of the country take it seriously with the media declaring it a national sport that everyone supports to prop up its status.
Just ask 2 time Wimbledon champion Ivan Lendl.

They'll always watch the All Blacks, it's their national team. How many Aussies become Soccer fans when the Australia plays?
Being a fan of your country is always going to be a thing! The comparison is mind boggling .
The Wallabies will get massive ratings in the world cup, that doesn't equal- RU fans.
I could just about guarantee that the Warriors fans watch the All blacks.
Has 0 impact on their support for the Warriors.
The only threat to the NRL and another team in NZ is Super rugby and it's failing.
The NRL will squash Super Rugby.

 

[The Great Dane]

I don't get it. What's your argument here? f**k em ?
You weren't supplemented for working away? You don't think you made a sacrifice for your company and don't deserve some respect for that?

My argument is simple;

A. It's ludicrous on face value to suggest that their actions "saved the game" or whatever.

B. Giving them adulation and special treatment is unwarranted, and would have necessitated further negative impacts on other stakeholders in the game all of whom suffered serious impacts from the covid lockdowns as well.

Almost every businesses in the entire world suffered because of covid and had to go to extreme measures to sustain their businesses, including all the other NRL clubs and players to varying degrees, and the Warriors don't deserve any more congratulations or special treatment than anybody else for doing what they had to do to get by.

I also fundamentally disagree with the premise that doing what is expected of you in the job you signed up for is a "sacrifice". Especially when you are a person whom is paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a game, and whom almost certainly could have got out of your contract given the circumstances.

If anybody deserves adulation for surviving the lockdowns it's the little mum-and-pop businesses, not multi-million dollar professional football clubs.