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Wb1234

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What am I supposed to be looking at here mate?

Kangaroos, Kiwis and Samoa to meet at end of year​

An end-of-season tri-nations series between Australia, New Zealand and Samoa is expected to be confirmed within a fortnight.
Sources with knowledge of the situation, who do not want to be named due to the sensitive negotiations between the NRL and RLPA, have told this masthead the tournament will be held over four weeks, with three Tests played in Australia and New Zealand before a final, expected to be on November 4, in New Zealand.
Australia and New Zealand have not hosted Test matches since the end of 2019, when the Kangaroos defeated the Kiwis in Wollongong, followed by a triple-header at Eden Park where Tonga stunned Australia.

Even if the NRL and RLPA remain at loggerheads over the CBA, including how much players should be paid for Test matches, the games are expected to proceed and be subsidised by the respective national bodies.
In New Zealand’s case, should a CBA not be brokered by October, they will pay their players and visiting teams about $3000 a Test.
The original plan was to include Tonga as well, but the Pacific powerhouse has accepted a three-Test series in England.
The NRL has proposed all players be paid a flat fee of $5000 a Test, including Australia, with the money taken from the record $1.34 billion they have tabled to the players in the new CBA.
The RLPA, however, wants any Test payments paid by the NRL from the money generated at each Test.

Kangaroos coach Mal Meninga has been open to a flat fee for all Test players – Australian players used to be paid $20,000 a Test – but would like win bonuses and financial incentives based on gate takings and TV ratings.
 

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Kangaroos, Kiwis and Samoa to meet at end of year​

An end-of-season tri-nations series between Australia, New Zealand and Samoa is expected to be confirmed within a fortnight.
Sources with knowledge of the situation, who do not want to be named due to the sensitive negotiations between the NRL and RLPA, have told this masthead the tournament will be held over four weeks, with three Tests played in Australia and New Zealand before a final, expected to be on November 4, in New Zealand.
Australia and New Zealand have not hosted Test matches since the end of 2019, when the Kangaroos defeated the Kiwis in Wollongong, followed by a triple-header at Eden Park where Tonga stunned Australia.

Even if the NRL and RLPA remain at loggerheads over the CBA, including how much players should be paid for Test matches, the games are expected to proceed and be subsidised by the respective national bodies.
In New Zealand’s case, should a CBA not be brokered by October, they will pay their players and visiting teams about $3000 a Test.
The original plan was to include Tonga as well, but the Pacific powerhouse has accepted a three-Test series in England.
The NRL has proposed all players be paid a flat fee of $5000 a Test, including Australia, with the money taken from the record $1.34 billion they have tabled to the players in the new CBA.
The RLPA, however, wants any Test payments paid by the NRL from the money generated at each Test.

Kangaroos coach Mal Meninga has been open to a flat fee for all Test players – Australian players used to be paid $20,000 a Test – but would like win bonuses and financial incentives based on gate takings and TV ratings.
2 weeks before the big secret is revealed.
 

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Rumoured to be two tri nations comp
aus, nz and samoa

png, fiji and cook islands

what I don’t understand with the cba argument is who pays the non nrl players to pay in these games?
 

Brian potter

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Rumoured to be two tri nations comp
aus, nz and samoa

png, fiji and cook islands

what I don’t understand with the cba argument is who pays the non nrl players to pay in these games?
Don’t understand the other tri-nations tournament unless the winners of it will take part in the next main tri-nations tournament replacing the 3rd placed nations in this year’s tournament?
 

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Fiji miss out on any big games again. They beat NZ in 2017 same as Tonga then got fed scraps for 4 years while Tonga played all the big sides. Nearly beat NZ last year and straight back to consolation games. More Fijian born players in the NRL than the other pacific nations combined.
 

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Fiji miss out on any big games again. They beat NZ in 2017 same as Tonga then got fed scraps for 4 years while Tonga played all the big sides. Nearly beat NZ last year and straight back to consolation games. More Fijian born players in the NRL than the other pacific nations combined.
Leads me to believe that it’s down to off-field issues like the Fijian diaspora isn’t as large in both Australia and New Zealand compared to the Tongan and Samoan diasporas.
 

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Leads me to believe that it’s down to off-field issues like the Fijian diaspora isn’t as large in both Australia and New Zealand compared to the Tongan and Samoan diasporas.

Pretty much, Tonga & Samoa will draw bigger crowds in Auckland. PNG & Fiji aren’t a draw in Australia or NZ and neither of those want to play in Port Moresby or Suva, that is International Rugby League though.

The Oceania Cup had the right idea of promotion/relegation between 2 tiers, Fiji were due to play top tier in 2020 after they beat Samoa & PNG in the 2nd tier in 2019 from memory.
 

Brian potter

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Pretty much, Tonga & Samoa will draw bigger crowds in Auckland. PNG & Fiji aren’t a draw in Australia or NZ and neither of those want to play in Port Moresby or Suva, that is International Rugby League though.

The Oceania Cup had the right idea of promotion/relegation between 2 tiers, Fiji were due to play top tier in 2020 after they beat Samoa & PNG in the 2nd tier in 2019 from memory.
PNG and Fiji need to play a Melanesian 3 test series.

I just don’t get the whole Cook Islands thing. It’s a dead end for me.
 

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“The NRL have a serious appetite in expanding the game and taking the greatest spectacle the game has to New Zealand, I’m all for it.”

The NRL are serious, there’s been some major discussion over the last week within weeks in and around taking an Origin game to New Zealand, in the agreement of a new broadcast deal,” Riccio said on SEN.
 

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West is best​

The Panthers are the benchmark in the NRL. So, it’s little wonder rival codes want to learn from them. Wallabies coach Eddie Jones toured their facilities recently, and Super Rugby’s Chiefs sent attack coach Roger Randle to spend time with coach Ivan Cleary and his team. It’s a credit to everything the club stands for that teams are trying to be like them.
 

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