New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[The Great Dane]

You think a massive organisation like the NRL are jumping at shadows like you? Ya dumb prick.
The NRL are planning for the next 100 years. A small unknown network going bust means f all.

Spark going under means that Sky effectively has a monopoly on sports broadcasting in NZ again.

There's no competitor in the market that can afford to offer contracts anywhere near what they can, and as such there's no incentive for Sky to pay any more for the product then what they wish. It's in their interest to under pay even if they are generous enough to offer more for a second side, and they won't offer anywhere near what Australian broadcasters will offer for new sides in the major metro markets in Australia (including Brisbane).

So where is the extra broadcast money for a second side in NZ going to come from?

BTW, the NRL an organisation that plans for the long term! LMAO.

 

[Wb1234]

He's keeping it at the top of the page
So long as he keeps going the better.
First thing you see...
"NZ 2 will deal a massive blow to Super Rugby "

Ps.
If you like food.. here in Mexico city is absolutely amazing street food! Best in my life!

Well I’d go to Columbia

More so for the cheap coke and hookers lmao

 

[Wb1234]

Spark going under means that Sky effectively has a monopoly on sports broadcasting in NZ again.

There's no competitor in the market that can afford to offer contracts anywhere near what they can, and as such there's no incentive for Sky to pay any more for the product then what they wish. Even if they are generous enough to offer more for a second side they'll still under pay, and they won't offer anywhere near what Australian broadcasters will offer for new sides in the major metro markets in Australia (including Brisbane).

So where is the extra broadcast money for a second side going to come from?

Wait

you know it’s possible that an extra game would also be valuable to Australian broadcasters

?

 

[The Great Dane]

Essay full of nonsense. It's a talent.

It'd be easily refutable if it was nonsense...

 

[The Great Dane]

Wait

you know it’s possible that an extra game would also be valuable to Australian broadcasters

?

Sure, just as an extra game between Australian sides is also valuable to NZ broadcasters. But just like the Dolphins not being as valuable as an NZ side would be to NZ broadcasters, a second NZ side isn't anywhere near as valuable to Australian broadcasters as new Australian sides would be.

NZ expansion will be reliant on the NZ market to fund it, and make it a more attractive venture than other options, long term, and currently there's little scope for that. It is what it is.

 

[RL The greatest game]

We have a union troll showing his fear of Rugby League.
No surprise there, but in my opinion i think the next NRL club will be in Queensland to put the squeeze on the AFL further expanding there.
A slim chance of AFL ever having a team in Ne Zealand as they wouldn't get the tax payers money there like they do here, and AFL cant survive with taxpayers money, but even so NZ 2 will happen and the union trolls won't like it.

 

[Te Kaha]

You think a massive organisation like the NRL are jumping at shadows like you? Ya dumb prick.
The NRL are planning for the next 100 years. A small unknown network going bust means f all.

They are "planning for the next hundred years" and yet you think they would put a team in a city in the next couple of years, that either has a substandard stadium, or a stadium that will allow only two or three night games, That has so few juniors that there are less than a dozen teams with few teams each, that will have no TV money to pay for it long term and no pathways to develop new players. How stupid are you? really???

Despite your ignorance of almost everything NZ you still maintain the NRL will do it. Arrogant and stupid isn't a good mix for you.

He's keeping it at the top of the page
So long as he keeps going the better.
First thing you see...
"NZ 2 will deal a massive blow to Super Rugby "

Ps.
If you like food.. here in Mexico city is absolutely amazing street food! Best in my life!

And yet nothing you have provided can support that assertion, because its just plain stupid.

 

[Wb1234]

Sure, just as an extra game between Australian sides is also valuable to NZ broadcasters. But just like the Dolphins not being as valuable as an NZ side would be to NZ broadcasters, a second NZ side isn't anywhere near as valuable to Australian broadcasters as new Australian sides would be.

NZ expansion will be reliant on the NZ market to fund it, and make it a more attractive venture than other options, long term, and currently there's little scope for that. It is what it is.

No

fox and nine don’t care one bit about Perth

it’s the extra game that they will pay for with viewers back in eastern markets

nz will have similar value

plus other benefits

if it doesn’t why do you think Andrew abdo talked about their benefits

the nrl already make a massive profit from the warriors ie cost 13 million vs tv 35 million plus

indeed they could add a second team and still make a profit with zero increase in the nz rights

 

[Gobsmacked]

Well I’d go to Columbia

More so for the cheap coke and hookers lmao

I fly there in 3 days

 

[Gobsmacked]

No

fox and nine don’t care one bit about Perth

it’s the extra game that they will pay for with viewers back in eastern markets

nz will have similar value

plus other benefits

if it doesn’t why do you think Andrew abdo talked about their benefits

the nrl already make a massive profit from the warriors ie cost 13 million vs tv 35 million plus

indeed they could add a second team and still make a profit with zero increase in the nz rights

There's substantial kiwi expats in Australia! I'm assuming they watch TV lol
There's more kiwi expats in Perth that would watch league than Australians.
A new NZ team would probably add more value in Perth... than Perth.

 

[Gobsmacked]

A new TV deal in NZ isn't due for 5 years. Who's to say Stan or the like won't fill that space in the next 5 years.
Just look how the world has changed in the last 3...

 

[Wb1234]

I fly there in 3 days

I’m saying my prayers for you !

 

[Te Kaha]

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Warriors dead last in TV viewership in Aus

Yeah another NZ team will be valuable to Aus TV.

People claiming Aus TV will pay for it are kidding themselves, and we now know SkyTV wont.

 

[Wb1234]

I was reading an article about the collapse of the two clubs in England with two more to potentially follow

they’ve sacked something like 60 to 80 professional players plus other teams will also be shedding players

I think this would mean wages would be heading lower now with less union clubs able to compete with the likes of France

here’s the article

‘Dark day’: English rugby in crisis as second club goes bankrupt, 167 players and staff sacked

‘Dark day’: English rugby in crisis as second club goes bankrupt, 167 players and staff sacked

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Te Kaha]

I was reading an article about the collapse of the two clubs in England with two more to potentially follow

they’ve sacked something like 60 to 80 professional players plus other teams will also be shedding players

I think this would mean wages would be heading lower now with less union clubs able to compete with the likes of France

here’s the article

‘Dark day’: English rugby in crisis as second club goes bankrupt, 167 players and staff sacked

‘Dark day’: English rugby in crisis as second club goes bankrupt, 167 players and staff sacked

www.foxsports.com.au

Except the money now is in Japan. 2 Million a year for an All Black. No NRL club will want to compete with that for an unproven player. Japan is already an established Rugby nation. Have beaten South Africa at a world cup, pushed an All Blacks team close with a team packed with home grown players. They will be joining the Rugby Championship soon in time for the Nations League every two years.


And of course its irrelevant to this thread, but that never stops you.

 

[siv]

Sure, just as an extra game between Australian sides is also valuable to NZ broadcasters. But just like the Dolphins not being as valuable as an NZ side would be to NZ broadcasters, a second NZ side isn't anywhere near as valuable to Australian broadcasters as new Australian sides would be.

NZ expansion will be reliant on the NZ market to fund it, and make it a more attractive venture than other options, long term, and currently there's little scope for that. It is what it is.

With greater Wellington and Christchurch being around the same size 550k

As Wellington has deep anti RL roots and Christchurch has its own RL field

I would see Christchurchas in front with main opposition from Auckland 2 either based at North Harbour or down South maybe at Huntly/Hamilton

 

[Te Kaha]

With greater Wellington and Christchurch being around the same size 550k

As Wellington has deep anti RL roots and Christchurch has its own RL field

I would see Christchurchas in front with main opposition from Auckland 2 either based at North Harbour or down South maybe at Huntly/Hamilton

Another Australian who doesn't know what he is talking about.

Christchurch's RL park is nowhere close to NRL standard, it has temporary scaffolding for its stands, and the new one wont be built for years.

Wellington does not have "deep anti RL toots", in Wainui and Randwick it has two of the oldest and most successful clubs in the country. However like every club in the country they are struggling with juniors and participation. The Kingfishers are fielding less than 25% of the teams they did when I played Prems for them, and its getting worse.

 

[Wb1234]

Southern orcas stadiums

Hamilton

Dig it! Turf project underway at FMG Stadium Waikato - FMG Stadium Waikato

www.fmgstadiumwaikato.co.nz

Wellington

Wellington Regional Stadium - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Dunedin

Forsyth Barr Stadium (NZ) | Austadiums

Information about Forsyth Barr Stadium (NZ) (Dunedin Stadium) in Dunedin including venue layout, history, records, events, map, tickets, directions and accommodation.

www.austadiums.com

Christchurch, their main stadium

Te Kaha project overview

From All Black tests and Football World Cup qualifiers to big concerts and events, One New Zealand Stadium at Te Kaha, will be able to host them all.

ccc.govt.nz

obviously Wellington shouldn’t get a lot of games given their stadium is probably the worst of the lot

it should be christchurch 6 games and the rest two each

 

[Matua]

Southern orcas stadiums

Hamilton

Dig it! Turf project underway at FMG Stadium Waikato - FMG Stadium Waikato

www.fmgstadiumwaikato.co.nz

Wellington

Wellington Regional Stadium - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Dunedin

Forsyth Barr Stadium (NZ) | Austadiums

Information about Forsyth Barr Stadium (NZ) (Dunedin Stadium) in Dunedin including venue layout, history, records, events, map, tickets, directions and accommodation.

www.austadiums.com

Christchurch, their main stadium

Te Kaha project overview

From All Black tests and Football World Cup qualifiers to big concerts and events, One New Zealand Stadium at Te Kaha, will be able to host them all.

ccc.govt.nz

obviously Wellington shouldn’t get a lot of games given their stadium is probably the worst of the lot

it should be christchurch 6 games and the rest two each

Where is this team getting it's support from if it's spread from Hamilton down to Dunedin with the bulk of the home games down in Christchurch?

You can't "deal a massive blow to NZ rugby" if you're trying to entice fans to support a team that's yoyo-ing all over the place.

It has to be in one city, build it's fanbase there and then play the odd games away.

In all honestly Wellington is the place to be as it's driveable from Hawkes Bay/Naki/Poo and that's another 300-350k population base. If they can be what the Canes originally were, which was representative of the region (as opposed to now when they're just a Wellington team) then they have a better shot than trying to cover the country south of the Bombays.

 

[siv]

Another Australian who doesn't know what he is talking about.

Christchurch's RL park is nowhere close to NRL standard, it has temporary scaffolding for its stands, and the new one wont be built for years.

Wellington does not have "deep anti RL toots", in Wainui and Randwick it has two of the oldest and most successful clubs in the country. However like every club in the country they are struggling with juniors and participation. The Kingfishers are fielding less than 25% of the teams they did when I played Prems for them, and its getting worse.

Happy to hear how a Kiwi would setup NZ2

Fyi - years ago tour matches had been cancelled in Wellington because RU wouldnt allow their fields to be used

Even today Wellington feels like a RL outpost rather than a rival to Auckland