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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

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People want two things. A team that they feel represented by, and a team that wins and makes them happy.
Warriors should concentrate on solidifying the first of those things since the second is a long way from guaranteed. NZ Union fans will feel represented by the All Blacks however happy or unhappy the team makes them. Their support will endure accordingly. No real value in Warriors increased buoyancy if it would all dissipate when they lost a few games early next season.
 

ash the bash

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Surely they’re called the New Zealand warriors because they are the only kiwi team in the NRL?
They could brand as the team for "all of NZ" while the 2nd NZ team theoretically represents their geographic area in NZ. I think for the brand it would be a step back going to Auckland, mind you i do see the argument too.
 

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Like the broncos decided to call themselves something else coz the dolphins want to be called brisbane.... me thinks not
er? The Dolphins arent called Brisbane? If anything your argument leans towards the new NZ club should be called 'The" so as not to encroach on the NZ Warriors?
 

Wb1234

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But the flow of kids into the nrl isn’t affecting the playing standards of union and the all blacks
 

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But the flow of kids into the nrl isn’t affecting the playing standards of union and the all blacks
Man you latch on to some weird things, as that clip says he moved to Australia when he was 14 to join the Roosters, NZers have been doing that for years.
 

MugaB

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er? The Dolphins arent called Brisbane? If anything your argument leans towards the new NZ club should be called 'The" so as not to encroach on the NZ Warriors?
The Bears???
I meant it as why should the broncos have to change, just coz a new neighbourhood rival has come along, THE Warriors were there first, as much as i would like them to revert back to Auckland Warriors, the fact is they dont have to
 

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The Bears???
I meant it as why should the broncos have to change, just coz a new neighbourhood rival has come along, THE Warriors were there first, as much as i would like them to revert back to Auckland Warriors, the fact is they dont have to
tbf they aren’t called the queensland broncos and as dolphins haven’t used brisbane in their name I’m really not sure what your point is. In fact wasnt there a rumour brisbane stopped the dolphins using brisbane or south queensland in their name, nrl didn’t want them named after a suburb, hence we ended up with the stupid ‘The’ ?

no one is saying they have to, but they’re may be good reason to, especially as it was their original name.
 

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tbf they aren’t called the queensland broncos and as dolphins haven’t used brisbane in their name I’m really not sure what your point is. In fact wasnt there a rumour brisbane stopped the dolphins using brisbane or south queensland in their name, nrl didn’t want them named after a suburb, hence we ended up with the stupid ‘The’ ?

no one is saying they have to, but they’re may be good reason to, especially as it was their original name.
The point being broncos were there first, no one can make them change their name... ditto to warriors...

Its like when in the late 90s, there was sydney bulldogs, sydney tigers and now sydney roosters or 2 hulls its dumb, ffs
New zealand warriors aren't going to just up and gift a new team a point of difference, the new team need to come up with one..
The chalmers bid Southern Orcas sorta worked to not be specific geographically, but was a good foil for NZ warriors, but if the new team (if ever) flat out calls themselves Christchurch bulls or Wellington Orcas then yeah warrios look like a team for everyone barr that ne specific area
 
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Its like when in the late 90s, there was sydney bulldogs, sydney tigers and now sydney roosters or 2 hulls its dumb, ffs
It's understandable that Aussies think two pro clubs in Hull is too many. However, RL in England would be tangibly diminished with only one.

It's not as though Hull FC and Hull KR are the product of a recent botched pins-in-map exercise. Both have longer histories than Easts and Souths in Sydney. More significantly, half the population of Kingston upon Hull is still more than the catchment areas of some other clubs in SL.

It's actually a matter of regret that a similar pattern wasn't established in Leeds with either Hunslet or Bramley as a second big club in the city. Hunslet FC were still a fair size in the mid 60s. They made the Challenge Cup final in 1965 but descended thereafter into irreversible decline.
 

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Both nz teams should be called nz.
Their particular geography is obviously around where most of their home games are while using nz as their name doesn't alienate anyone in the country.
Gives everyone in the country a choice and that becomes the rivalry to dwarf all previous rivalries!
 

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It's understandable that Aussies think two pro clubs in Hull is too many. However, RL in England would be tangibly diminished with only one.

It's not as though Hull FC and Hull KR are the product of a recent botched pins-in-map exercise. Both have longer histories than Easts and Souths in Sydney. More significantly, half the population of Kingston upon Hull is still more than the catchment areas of some other clubs in SL.

It's actually a matter of regret that a similar pattern wasn't established in Leeds with either Hunslet or Bramley as a second big club in the city. Hunslet FC were still a fair size in the mid 60s. They made the Challenge Cup final in 1965 but descended thereafter into irreversible decline.
So the next nrl team you should want is north Sydney bears
 

MugaB

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It's understandable that Aussies think two pro clubs in Hull is too many. However, RL in England would be tangibly diminished with only one.

It's not as though Hull FC and Hull KR are the product of a recent botched pins-in-map exercise. Both have longer histories than Easts and Souths in Sydney. More significantly, half the population of Kingston upon Hull is still more than the catchment areas of some other clubs in SL.

It's actually a matter of regret that a similar pattern wasn't established in Leeds with either Hunslet or Bramley as a second big club in the city. Hunslet FC were still a fair size in the mid 60s. They made the Challenge Cup final in 1965 but descended thereafter into irreversible decline.
Im not saying two pro teams in hull is too much, just that they are both called hull
 
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