New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Perth Red]

And yet we have the example of a club built on local juniors making the last four straight grand finals and winning the first 3 peat since the 80s whilst losing a host of stars along the way

Perth will just be canon fodder to clubs like that

That club happens to be lucky enough to be based in the biggest jnr participation area in the country, that’s it’s taken them 5 decades to realise this advantage shows what a sht club it has been.

 

[Perth Red]

You support hull kr in super league over London toulose Sheffield Newcastle

Grade A baby

 

[Perth Red]

I didn't make anything up.

You're always gloating that the Pirates will have a larger "catchment" than NZ2, Cowboys and Sydney clubs. In other words you're pretending Perth is rugby league heartland and should be prioritised ahead of NZ2, Cowboys and Sydney. At one stage you said the Reds should have been kept around at the Cowboys' expense because you believe the former had twice as many players within its catchment.

When you're called out on your bullshit you claim people are lying.

Just accept that Perth ain't rugby league heartland and doesn't deserve special privileges ahead of the other candidates bidding for a licence.

Western Force have f**k all fans, despite having three times as many players within its catchment than the NRLWA.

WA has more jnrs than the Canterbury bulldogs region, just saying lol

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

WA has more jnrs than the Canterbury bulldogs region, just saying lol

WA has population of almost 3 million. It only has 4,100 players in the entire state.

 

[Perth Red]

WA has population of almost 3 million. It only has 4,100 players in the entire state.

Does it matter? Surely when it comes to,producing players it’s about a) the number of jnrs and b) the quality of development pathways

it really doesn’t matter how big wa‘s population is, it matters how may jnrs a WA club will have to pick from. And in that regard it betters some, matches others, and is a fair way behind a handful.

 

[MugaB]

Does it matter? Surely when it comes to,producing players it’s about a) the number of jnrs and b) the quality of development pathways

it really doesn’t matter how big wa‘s population is, it matters how may jnrs a WA club will have to pick from. And in that regard it betters some, matches others, and is a fair way behind a handful.

The quality bit is where I'm dumbfounded by...
4100 juniors if fine, just they are not any good in comparison to any east coast clubs

 

[Perth Red]

The quality bit is where I'm dumbfounded by...
4100 juniors if fine, just they are not any good in comparison to any eaat coast clubs

That’s a very good point, so if you get over the fact that wa actually has as many or more jnrs than some nrl club regions then you come to quality Of systems.

At the moment if I’m a really talented 15 year old I only have two options in perth. Move to union and join the force development pathway or move to the east coast and join an nrl clubs pathway. Until we get decent development programs in WA we simply won’t see any decent number of players come through into first grade.
Which brings us back to needing a nrl club in Perth To fund and create those pathways. It’s should be a stipulation of any new nrl license being granted to WA that there has to be strong pathways developed from day 1.

 

[Perth Red]

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[MugaB]

That’s a very good point, so if you get over the fact that wa actually has as many or more jnrs than some nrl club regions then you come to quality Of systems.

At the moment if I’m a really talented 15 year old I only have two options in perth. Move to union and join the force development pathway or move to the east coast and join an nrl clubs pathway. Until we get decent development programs in WA we simply won’t see any decent number of players come through into first grade.
Which brings us back to needing a nrl club in Perth To fund and create those pathways. It’s should be a stipulation of any new nrl license being granted to WA that there has to be strong pathways developed from day 1.

f**k all that pay for it yourself, then bid for a licence..

No one is giving out handouts, unless WA has decided to breakaway from Australia and become a 3rd world country all of a sudden, even then the government wont care to bankroll an NRL team for you

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Does it matter? Surely when it comes to,producing players it’s about a) the number of jnrs and b) the quality of development pathways

it really doesn’t matter how big wa‘s population is, it matters how may jnrs a WA club will have to pick from. And in that regard it betters some, matches others, and is a fair way behind a handful.

According to Wikipedia, there's only been 10 professional rugby league players from Western Australia. One of them, Shane Wright, was raised in rural Queensland.

Category:Rugby league players from Perth, Western Australia - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Townsville on its own has produced 44.

Category:Rugby league players from Townsville - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Cairns has produced 34.

Category:Rugby league players from Cairns - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Mackay has produced 31.

Category:Rugby league players from Mackay, Queensland - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Remember, you said the ARL should have punted the Cowboys and kept the Reds because Western Australia apparently had more players than North Queensland. The reality is Western Australia has sweet f**k all juniors that are capable of mixing it with the best players from North Queensland.

North Queensland's three largest cities have produced almost 11 times as many players as the entire state of Western Australia. That's a pretty damning indictment on how little Western Australia has to offer. The fact you erroneously believe Perth is more important than North Queensland is embarrassing.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That’s a very good point, so if you get over the fact that wa actually has as many or more jnrs than some nrl club regions then you come to quality Of systems.

At the moment if I’m a really talented 15 year old I only have two options in perth. Move to union and join the force development pathway or move to the east coast and join an nrl clubs pathway. Until we get decent development programs in WA we simply won’t see any decent number of players come through into first grade.
Which brings us back to needing a nrl club in Perth To fund and create those pathways. It’s should be a stipulation of any new nrl license being granted to WA that there has to be strong pathways developed from day 1.

When are you going to realise that Western Australia's best athletes usually gravitate towards fumbleball, soccer and cricket?

In Queensland and NSW the best athletes usually play rugby league. If Kalyn Ponga was raised in Perth then he would probably be playing for the West Coast Eagles.

 

[Bukowski]

f**k all that pay for it yourself, then bid for a licence..

No one is giving out handouts, unless WA has decided to breakaway from Australia and become a 3rd world country all of a sudden, even then the government wont care to bankroll an NRL team for you

Hey? The PNG bid is based on a handout

 

[Wb1234]

That’s a very good point, so if you get over the fact that wa actually has as many or more jnrs than some nrl club regions then you come to quality Of systems.

At the moment if I’m a really talented 15 year old I only have two options in perth. Move to union and join the force development pathway or move to the east coast and join an nrl clubs pathway. Until we get decent development programs in WA we simply won’t see any decent number of players come through into first grade.
Which brings us back to needing a nrl club in Perth To fund and create those pathways. It’s should be a stipulation of any new nrl license being granted to WA that there has to be strong pathways developed from day 1.

 

[Wb1234]

 

[final say]

I love watching them shoot themselves in the foot. Meanwhile 16 NRL teams do battle with twice the talent with all available stars playing a fastest game...
Imagine needing a rest from Super Rugby.. the whole game is a rest.

 

[Perth Red]

According to Wikipedia, there's only been 10 professional rugby league players from Western Australia. One of them, Shane Wright, was raised in rural Queensland.

Category:Rugby league players from Perth, Western Australia - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Townsville on its own has produced 44.

Category:Rugby league players from Townsville - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Cairns has produced 34.

Category:Rugby league players from Cairns - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Mackay has produced 31.

Category:Rugby league players from Mackay, Queensland - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Remember, you said the ARL should have punted the Cowboys and kept the Reds because Western Australia apparently had more players than North Queensland. The reality is Western Australia has sweet f**k all juniors that are capable of mixing it with the best players from North Queensland.

North Queensland's three largest cities have produced almost 11 times as many players as the entire state of Western Australia. That's a pretty damning indictment on how little Western Australia has to offer. The fact you erroneously believe Perth is more important than North Queensland is embarrassing.

Your list is wrong, there’s been more than that in nrl and nrlw that have played jnrs in WA.

Thanks for showing evidence that proves my point. Without direct pathways and better development systems Perth won’t produce more first graders. perth haa enough jnrs, it is just missing those two things.

 

[Perth Red]

f**k all that pay for it yourself, then bid for a licence..

when you say pay for it yourself who exactly do you mean should pay for it?
nrlwa is owned and run by the arlc

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Your list is wrong, there’s been more than that in nrl and nrlw that have played jnrs in WA.

Thanks for showing evidence that proves my point. Without direct pathways and better development systems Perth won’t produce more first graders. perth haa enough jnrs, it is just missing those two things.

Now just imagine how many juniors NZ2 could produce with the same systems

 

[MugaB]

when you say pay for it yourself who exactly do you mean should pay for it?
nrlwa is owned and run by the arlc

The perf bidder

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Your list is wrong, there’s been more than that in nrl and nrlw that have played jnrs in WA.

Take it up with Wikipedia.

Thanks for showing evidence that proves my point. Without direct pathways and better development systems Perth won’t produce more first graders. perth haa enough jnrs, it is just missing those two things.

How does this prove your point?

North Queensland produced quality players that plied their trade in the BRL and NSWRL and went on to represent Queensland and Australia long before the Cowboys were set up in 1992.

Players like Martin Bella, Dale Shearer and Kerry Boustead weren't the product of expensive development programs funded by the ARL. They grew up playing in local competitions that attracted the best athletes from the region. The NRLWA doesn't attract the best talent from the region.

The example set by Bella, Boustead and Shearer disproves your theory.

Melbourne have fielded a team in the NRL since 1998. They still haven't produced a genuine star who is good enough to play for Australia. Their inability to produce a quality player disproves your theory.