New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That was over 25 years ago, and I doubt news ltd would know a good culture if it bit them! Storm have always worked really hard to make players and family feel part of the family and settle in a new city. Perth needs to copy it.

you seem to be mixing up money to sign players, which all clubs now have, and making a club attractive to play for.

Compare the state of the NRL clubs in 1998 to 2024. Back then clubs had terrible facilities and weren't very well run.

The worst run clubs in 2024 are right up there with the best from 1998.

For example, the Wests Tigers have one of the best high performance training centres in the NRL. They're far from dominating the NRL.

What makes you think elite players will choose Perth over every other club that offers them a fat contract?

Will Perth be able to provide bigger third party deals than the Broncos, Roosters, Storm, Cowboys, Dolphins, Warriors, Eels and Rabbitohs?

A well run Perth club -- whatever that means -- will struggle to compete with the Titans. It won't be camped inside the top four over its first 25 years.

 

[MugaB]

It's Mackay .

Brad Mmmmkay

 

[final say]

Compare the state of the NRL clubs in 1998 to 2024. Back then clubs had terrible facilities and weren't very well run.

The worst run clubs in 2024 are right up there with the best from 1998.

For example, the Wests Tigers have one of the best high performance training centres in the NRL. They're far from dominating the NRL.

What makes you think elite players will choose Perth over every other club that offers them a fat contract?

Will Perth be able to provide bigger third party deals than the Broncos, Roosters, Storm, Cowboys, Dolphins, Warriors, Eels and Rabbitohs?

A well run Perth club -- whatever that means -- will struggle to compete with the Titans. It won't be camped inside the top four over its first 25 years.

That's right, there's no reason they can't put together a competitive squad. When I boils down to it though, they're at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to signing players. That's just a fact. Even Perth Red has advocated for a salary cap exemption status similar to the AFL which basically upends our entire ( winning formula) structure to accommodate 1 club.
Basically creating a inequity.. where every other club will rightly oppose.

 

[Perth Red]

Compare the state of the NRL clubs in 1998 to 2024. Back then clubs had terrible facilities and weren't very well run.

The worst run clubs in 2024 are right up there with the best from 1998.

For example, the Wests Tigers have one of the best high performance training centres in the NRL. They're far from dominating the NRL.

What makes you think elite players will choose Perth over every other club that offers them a fat contract?

Will Perth be able to provide bigger third party deals than the Broncos, Roosters, Storm, Cowboys, Dolphins, Warriors, Eels and Rabbitohs?

A well run Perth club -- whatever that means -- will struggle to compete with the Titans. It won't be camped inside the top four over its first 25 years.

very very few clubs will be camped in the top 4 over 25 years! Perth isnt melbourne it doesnt need their level of success to make it work.

Theres lots of reasons players choose to move clubs. If your logic was sound we would never see players leave and move to other clubs.

 

[Perth Red]

That's right, there's no reason they can't put together a competitive squad. When I boils down to it though, they're at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to signing players. That's just a fact. Even Perth Red has advocated for a salary cap exemption status similar to the AFL which basically upends our entire ( winning formula) structure to accommodate 1 club.
Basically creating a inequity.. where every other club will rightly oppose.

Didnt Vlandys juts suggest the same thing to try and offset the issue of PNg being based inb Port Moresby?

if you think the current NRl structure is equal then you must be very naive. Inequality already exists, we just pretend it doesnt and that everyone is the same.

Regional clubs, melbourne, auckland and perth should be allowed to cover the costs of relocation and 1st years rent for players for starters.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

very very few clubs will be camped in the top 4 over 25 years! Perth isnt melbourne it doesnt need their level of success to make it work.

Theres lots of reasons players choose to move clubs. If your logic was sound we would never see players leave and move to other clubs.

What happened with the Storm will never occur again in the NRL.

Perth is not Melbourne, but it ain't Brisbane and Sydney, either. You make it sound as if rugby league has a huge following in Perth that's comparable with Brisbane and Sydney.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Regional clubs, melbourne, auckland and perth should be allowed to cover the costs of relocation and 1st years rent for players for starters.

What are the odds of all 17 NRL clubs, QRL and NSWRL agreeing to that?

 

[Perth Red]

What happened with the Storm will never occur again in the NRL.

Perth is not Melbourne, but it ain't Brisbane and Sydney, either. You make it sound as if rugby league has a huge following in Perth that's comparable with Brisbane and Sydney.

Nope, again you’re making sht up.
So doesn’t need to be as succesful on field as Melbourne and can’t be as sht on field as some Sydney clubs. Righto we got this.

 

[Perth Red]

What are the odds of all 17 NRL clubs, QRL and NSWRL agreeing to that?

In a sport driven by self interest rather than the greater good, slim to none!

 

[final say]

Didnt Vlandys juts suggest the same thing to try and offset the issue of PNg being based inb Port Moresby?

if you think the current NRl structure is equal then you must be very naive. Inequality already exists, we just pretend it doesnt and that everyone is the same.

Regional clubs, melbourne, auckland and perth should be allowed to cover the costs of relocation and 1st years rent for players for starters.

That's the only way a PNG team could be successful and another reason why I don't want them in. I'm so glad guys like you are into AFL and keep those crapy ideas there.

 

[final say]

In a sport driven by self interest rather than the greater good, slim to none!

Self intrest. .. you don't like self intrest?
Just when I thought you ran out of contradictions, well done!

 

[Wb1234]

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The reds were playing the force at the same time as I was watching the Tigers v Sharks yesterday at the pub. The Tigers contest was action packed but I thought I'd watch a bit of each for about a 10 minute period... spent most of that just watching the Tigers game as it was in play! And when the Union was finally going look unbearably slow in comparison and they just kept kicking until it went out, at which point obviously a massive stoppage and I went back to the Tigers game.
It was a no contest, Super Rugby is done. League has won the Pacific. As you start to see people jumping on the band wagon, today I hear a rumour that a couple of forwards from the Highlanders have put the managers out to talk to League clubs...and why wouldn't they?
Super rugby can't be saved, most of the clubs would be haemorrhaging money ,going broke and soon they start to really drag down their nation governing bodies. If they pull back to national competitions that don't cost a lot to run , they'll make money on their internationals.
Union in the Pacific is only good for internationals. The sooner they realise it , the more money they can save.

Took you a while to warm up on this account lol

 

[Wb1234]

They'll find it much tougher than the Dolphins.

NZ2 and NZ3 have an entire country full of world class talent. Polynesians are built for rugby league.

Plus the pacific too

 

[Wb1234]

very very few clubs will be camped in the top 4 over 25 years! Perth isnt melbourne it doesnt need their level of success to make it work.

Theres lots of reasons players choose to move clubs. If your logic was sound we would never see players leave and move to other clubs.

And yet we have the example of a club built on local juniors making the last four straight grand finals and winning the first 3 peat since the 80s whilst losing a host of stars along the way

Perth will just be canon fodder to clubs like that

 

[Wb1234]

In a sport driven by self interest rather than the greater good, slim to none!

You support hull kr in super league over London toulose Sheffield Newcastle

 

[Wb1234]

Didnt Vlandys juts suggest the same thing to try and offset the issue of PNg being based inb Port Moresby?

if you think the current NRl structure is equal then you must be very naive. Inequality already exists, we just pretend it doesnt and that everyone is the same.

Regional clubs, melbourne, auckland and perth should be allowed to cover the costs of relocation and 1st years rent for players for starters.

He’s not wrong about this

I would suggest the following

every club has the same cap

but regional clubs get an extra one million pa in funding from the arlc

inter state and nz clubs get an extra two million pa

 

[Vlad59]

70% of nrl players are Australian born, perth is in australia. That’s your logic right? Lol

Reality check
registered players in Canterbury region 2,800
registered players in WA 4,100:

christchurch has 3 of the 4 key needs in place.
great stadium
crowds for one off games shows there’s decent nrl Interest in the city
kiwis are naturally suited physically to rl so jnrs should eventually grow

one of the bids just needs to come up with a very sound business plan and ideally some investors to give nrl confidence and I can’t see why they wouldnt get in.

Fact check Canterbury has 10% the population of Perth and nearly 70% as many players. Fact check. AFL reds comparison is utter bullshit. Fact.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Nope, again you’re making sht up.
So doesn’t need to be as succesful on field as Melbourne and can’t be as sht on field as some Sydney clubs. Righto we got this.

I didn't make anything up.

You're always gloating that the Pirates will have a larger "catchment" than NZ2, Cowboys and Sydney clubs. In other words you're pretending Perth is rugby league heartland and should be prioritised ahead of NZ2, Cowboys and Sydney. At one stage you said the Reds should have been kept around at the Cowboys' expense because you believe the former had twice as many players within its catchment.

When you're called out on your bullshit you claim people are lying.

Just accept that Perth ain't rugby league heartland and doesn't deserve special privileges ahead of the other candidates bidding for a licence.

Western Force have f**k all fans, despite having three times as many players within its catchment than the NRLWA.

 

[Wb1234]

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

In a sport driven by self interest rather than the greater good, slim to none!

So it's like the Super League clubs refusing to get rid of tiny "suburban" clubs like Hull KR?

Why not introduce "real expansion" clubs from London, Toulouse, Paris, Toronto, Dublin, Belfast and Edinburgh?

The fact they persevere with promotion and relegation is an example of self-interest ahead of expansion.