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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

Perth Red

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Apologies I just cant let BS go lol
Mind you given the amount of crap you post in threads MugaB Im not sure youve got much room to be dissing others!
 

MugaB

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Apologies I just cant let BS go lol
Mind you given the amount of crap you post in threads MugaB Im not sure youve got much room to be dissing others!
It's not BS, it's an opinion, and its better than re-living old traumas regarding missed perf bids, nrl admin hate, and general windbag negative comments on anything east coast related
 

Vlad59

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It's not BS, it's an opinion, and its better than re-living old traumas regarding missed perf bids, nrl admin hate, and general windbag negative comments on anything east coast related
He really is an unpleasant miserable old sod
 

mongoose

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I wouldn't be surprised if they added Brisbane 3 and then shut up shop at 18 teams.

Money talks. Bullshit walks.

Expansion is going to be funded by the broadcasters. There's only one location in the world that the broadcasters will want.

Fordham: “We’re really committed to working with the NRL in growing the competition, and Queensland is a big part of that. We think there’s room for another team here in Queensland, and the Dolphins have been the perfect example.​
“The more games we can get played featuring Queensland teams in Southeast Queensland, the better. The engagement in rugby league here is just next level, and the energy of the crowds has a material impact on the quality of the broadcasts that we make. It helps create atmosphere, it makes the commentary team rise, it makes the production team rise.” Head of Strategy WWOS, Simon Fordham​
nah
 

flippikat

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3 tops imo
If it's to be 3, then Auckland, Christchurch, Wellington makes sense - and that could be made to work really well.

A 4th really depends on whether a Hamilton based team (with the odd Bay of Plenty game) would be considered too geographically close to the Warriors, and perceived to be encroaching on their territory too much.

I think that 4th team in Waikato/BOP could work, but due to it's proximity to Auckland, it's further back in priority than Christchurch & Wellington.
 

final say

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The debate seems to be heating up for kiwis...
Good breakdown by this fella and what we've been saying for a while.
The numbers don't lie, NRL is by far the biggest Rugby competition in the world. I thought it was marginal but nope...
NRL is king uncontested.

 

mongoose

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It's weird, I kind of feel sorry for RU in NZ, if it really is struggling that is. I have no sympathy for RU in Australia though. The sport represents everything that is wrong with society - elitism, classist attitudes, nepotism, exclusivity. The crazy thing is that they don't seem to have even attempted to change their ways over the years. They are so stuck In their thinking that they are superior to RL simply because they are followed and played by by posh merkins and RL is followed and played by the riff raff.
 

Canard

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It's weird, I kind of feel sorry for RU in NZ, if it really is struggling that is. I have no sympathy for RU in Australia though. The sport represents everything that is wrong with society - elitism, classist attitudes, nepotism, exclusivity. The crazy thing is that they don't seem to have even attempted to change their ways over the years. They are so stuck In their thinking that they are superior to RL simply because they are followed and played by by posh merkins and RL is followed and played by the riff raff.
Bar one or two seasons, has Super Rugby ever been a well attended thing? (Even in NZ?)

Is NZ Rugby "struggling"? I assume that All Blacks games are still doing OK, and are where all the money is.
 

SpaceMonkey

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If it's to be 3, then Auckland, Christchurch, Wellington makes sense - and that could be made to work really well.

A 4th really depends on whether a Hamilton based team (with the odd Bay of Plenty game) would be considered too geographically close to the Warriors, and perceived to be encroaching on their territory too much.

I think that 4th team in Waikato/BOP could work, but due to it's proximity to Auckland, it's further back in priority than Christchurch & Wellington.
The other reason a Waikato/BoP team would eventually make sense is demographic- it’s the fastest growing region of NZ and taken as a whole has a larger population than Canterbury or Wellington. Half of the entire NZ population is in the upper north island and outside of Auckland the bulk of that is the Waikato/BoP.
Once you’ve covered those regions you’ve captured about 3/4 of the NZ population within a close enough distance of home grounds to be potential active supporters.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Bar one or two seasons, has Super Rugby ever been a well attended thing? (Even in NZ?)

Is NZ Rugby "struggling"? I assume that All Blacks games are still doing OK, and are where all the money is.
Super Rugby attendances seem pretty patchy in NZ but the big games are still drawing and the code as a whole isn’t struggling the way it is in Aus.
 

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