New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[The Great Dane]

Poor product which people got bored of

league recovered from super league so aru don’t get the sugar hit of signing league stars for publicity

Utter nonsense.

RL should be learning everything it can from RU's mistakes, not trying to mythologise RU's current predicament into a nonsense narrative where we pretend it's some kind of victory for the sport.

 

[Wb1234]

Utter nonsense.

RL should be learning everything it can from RU's mistakes, not trying to mythologise RU's current predicament into a nonsense narrative where we pretend it's some kind of victory for the sport.

Rugby league is the dominant football code in nsw and qld

it has nothing to learn from an insignificant sport

union could learn from league how to tackle and pass better

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The bigger mistake RU made was putting a team in Perth.

 

[Brian potter]

The bigger mistake RU made was putting a team in Perth.

And Melbourne.

Reds, waratahs and brumbies was perfect for rugby Australia.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Brisbane 2

Always need to fact check your statements lol
Lions have an $8mill bank loan. On a $103mill revenue and a $53mill asset base that isnt an issue.
2022, taking out the grants, they made a $2.4mill profit

Their Fc revenue goes ok: (2022)
Memberships and gate takings $10.3mill
Sponsors and corporates $12.8mill
Merch sales $2.2mill
Thats is $3mill more in FC revenue than the Cowboys in same year.

NT
Canberra
Brisbane2
Perth3

all possible AFL expansion for club 20. Wont happen for another 8 years or so and my money would be on Canberra.

Brisbane 2 would be a disaster for AFL. Their first club is still struggling for ratings and fans. They averaged 27k last year in a GF year and only a few short years before that were at the bottom of the table pulling 12k for some games.

 

[MugaB]

Brisbane 2

Brisbane 2 would be a disaster for AFL. Their first club is still struggling for ratings and fans. They averaged 27k last year in a GF year and only a few short years before that were at the bottom of the table pulling 12k for some games.

Why the f**k are we talk8ng Aussie rules in a nz thread

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Why the f**k are we talk8ng Aussie rules in a nz thread

Good point... I'm not sure

 

[Matiunz]

Utter nonsense.

RL should be learning everything it can from RU's mistakes, not trying to mythologise RU's current predicament into a nonsense narrative where we pretend it's some kind of victory for the sport.

Majority of Unions current woes stem from a fear of future legal issues regarding head injuries and duty of care around them. This is an issue that will also effect the NRL and they will need to avoid unions mistake of diluting the spectacle.

NRL whilst a great product has its own issues around how the comp is perceived, one of the major issues is whether perceived or real the is a perception of bias towards some teams and/or players on how rules are interpreted and enforced. Being heavily in bed with media and sports betting does little to dispel its image.

 

[Canard]

Majority of Unions current woes stem from a fear of future legal issues regarding head injuries and duty of care around them. This is an issue that will also effect the NRL and they will need to avoid unions mistake of diluting the spectacle.

NRL whilst a great product has its own issues around how the comp is perceived, one of the major issues is whether perceived or real the is a perception of bias towards some teams and/or players on how rules are interpreted and enforced. Being heavily in bed with media and sports betting does little to dispel its image.

It's Sydney centric world view also needs to be discarded.

 

[MugaB]

It's Sydney centric world view also needs to be discarded.

This competition started in Sydney, its also has its roots moreso here then anywhere else barr Brisbane, which should have more teams added for that reason

 

[Penrith fan]

Nah coexisting bla bla bla lol
All Rugby league came from pulling people over from Union. First in the north of England, then NZ , Australia and France. Most Unions used their influence and intimidation to limit the spread.. not successful in Australia and in the age of the internet, it's becoming impossible for back room bullying and politics..
NZ is going to be the first break of the defensive line Union has held for over the last 100 plus years..
The NRL just needs to nudge it over.

This is so true; the mainstream media and the Elites have kept the status quo in sport in NZ with Union being by far No 1 and Rugby League being the red-haired stepsister.

But alternative media has lifted the profile of Rugby League and changed the rules.

People can get their own media from alternative sources now; and like what they like, and they don't have to follow the lies they have been told over the last 50 years.

Hence, the NZ people are choosing Rugby League over Rugby Union.

 

[Matiunz]

This is so true; the mainstream media and the Elites have kept the status quo in sport in NZ with Union being by far No 1 and Rugby League being the red-haired stepsister.

But alternative media has lifted the profile of Rugby League and changed the rules.

People can get their own media from alternative sources now; and like what they like, and they don't have to follow the lies they have been told over the last 50 years.

Hence, the NZ people are choosing Rugby League over Rugby Union.

I’d argue the Warriors were successful at the moment in NZ rather than the NRL.
Yes the Warriors have become a must see ticket with their current form but you aren’t seeing it translate to playing numbers yet, kiwis crowds are still crap. Etc.
When the Warriors are doing well league does well in NZ, support for other teams is minor

 

[Canard]

This competition started in Sydney

Yes, it did.

But it needs to expand beyond that to grow and thrive.

We need clubs playing in Te Kaha stadium or a brand new stadia in Canberra or Perth, not talkin about playing 4 games a year at North Sydney Oval.

 

[Penrith fan]

I’d argue the Warriors were successful at the moment in NZ rather than the NRL.
Yes the Warriors have become a must see ticket with their current form but you aren’t seeing it translate to playing numbers yet, kiwis crowds are still crap. Etc.
When the Warriors are doing well league does well in NZ, support for other teams is minor

Yes, there are two battles going on in NZ football code wars.

it is imperative that the Warriors are successful for the next 10 years for Rugby League grown in NZ.

At the moment the battle is with the Elites in NZ and if they can have their heads turned away from Rugby Union.

But that needs to translate with junior RL numbers.

Until that happens, the battle hasn't been won, even slightly.

 

[final say]

I’d argue the Warriors were successful at the moment in NZ rather than the NRL.
Yes the Warriors have become a must see ticket with their current form but you aren’t seeing it translate to playing numbers yet, kiwis crowds are still crap. Etc.
When the Warriors are doing well league does well in NZ, support for other teams is minor

Do you have the junior numbers for this year?

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Yes, there are two battles going on in NZ football code wars.

it is imperative that the Warriors are successful for the next 10 years for Rugby League grown in NZ.

At the moment the battle is with the Elites in NZ and if they can have their heads turned away from Rugby Union.

But that needs to translate with junior RL numbers.

Until that happens, the battle hasn't been won, even slightly.

League in NZ needs to get properly aligned with touch rugby- it’s a huge source of juniors and casual adult participation.

 

[Matua]

At the moment the battle is with the Elites in NZ and if they can have their heads turned away from Rugby Union.

But that needs to translate with junior RL numbers.

Until that happens, the battle hasn't been won, even slightly.

Mate, a few of us Kiwis on here have been saying the same thing since day 1 of this thread, yet your fellow rugby hating mates Wb and whoever gob is pretending to be at any given moment claim sorting the domestic game doesn't matter.

Also, what do you mean by "Elites"? Elite players?

 

[Brian potter]

I’d argue the Warriors were successful at the moment in NZ rather than the NRL.
Yes the Warriors have become a must see ticket with their current form but you aren’t seeing it translate to playing numbers yet, kiwis crowds are still crap. Etc.
When the Warriors are doing well league does well in NZ, support for other teams is minor

The kiwis draw crap crowds because they hardly ever play on home soil . They are invisible to the NZ public sadly.

adding NZ2 to the NRL will only help increase the popularity of RL in NZ in terms of crowds, tv viewing figures and playing numbers.

as for the kiwi’s popularity they will remain largely anonymous if they don’t play a number of home tests every year for the foreseeable future.

 

[Brian potter]

When reality hits home.

Respected Premiership boss warns that a Club World Cup could 'easily create bigger issues'

Exeter Chiefs boss Rob Baxter has expressed his reservations about a possible Club Rugby World Cup as he believes it could create "bigger issues".

www.planetrugby.com

 

[Brian potter]

They know it, we know it and they know that we know it.

The World Club Cup can't come soon enough

We don’t know what rugby’s World Club Cup could become, but we’re acutely aware in New Zealand of how quickly things can stagnate.

www.rugbypass.com