New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Brian potter]

International rugby league has gotten massive crowds in the past

England or gb were a massive draw

40 years of kangaroo dominance killed it off

France toured Australia post ww2 twice before massive crowds and they beat Australia too

when mal meninges Roos toured England they were the biggest rugby side on the planet

the super league war killed that off

partly due to the end of traditional ashes tours

historically nz have never been a big draw for test matches going back until 1910

The trans-Tasman test series was building nicely in the mid-late 90’s until it got pulled.

just imagine if we had stuck with it during the rise of the kiwis throughout the 00’s and 10’s.

 

[Colk]

Reflection of how bad super rugby (particularly in aus)

maybe the wallabies should sign Jonah lomu too

Considering he is dead that might be hard. Rugby Union in Australia (which has been crap for more than a decade) has no relevance to a second Kiwi league side.

 

[Wb1234]

Considering he is dead that might be hard. Rugby Union in Australia (which has been crap for more than a decade) has no relevance to a second Kiwi league side.

The decline and current situation of super rugby is VERY relevant to talk about a second nz nrl side

 

[Brian potter]

The decline and current situation of super rugby is VERY relevant to talk about a second nz nrl side

But what does the wallabies selection have to do with the price of bread?

 

[Perth Red]

Because they're uncompetitive and there're no draw cards to attract people through the gates.

The main attraction to internationals in other sports is that it's a rare opportunity for fans to see household name star players that they wouldn't normally get a chance to see play against each other. In RL effectively all of those household names already play in the NRL, and the Northern Hemisphere teams have been totally uncompetitive for 30 years now. In other words international RL is basically asking Australians and Kiwis to pay a premium for a product that's generally worse.

Add to that the total undermining of the whole concept of internationals in RL over the last 5 or so years and you've got yourself a Mickey Mouse clusterf**k that's only attractive expat minority ethnic groups.

RL won't develop a strong international game until there're at least 3/4 professional leagues regularly producing star players, and all of the IRL and NRL's attempted short cuts to a strong international scene through utterly ludicrous heritage rules are only added road blocks to that development.

How has origin continued to grow then? I mean how many years has qlnd dominated in the last 20?

how have all blacks managed to stay so popular despite decades of dominance?

on the back of kangaroo dominance of the 80’s the test matches of the 90’s were brilliant.

inthink it has a lot more to do with the nrl attitude to IRL and the Australian media dismissal of the international game. Some of the coverage is downright disrespectful at times.

 

[Colk]

But what does the wallabies selection have to do with the price of bread?

The decline and current situation of super rugby is VERY relevant to talk about a second nz nrl side

How is a Kiwi bloke being selected for the Wallabies have any relevance to a second Kiwi side? For example, you could make an argument that the selection of a kiwi in the Wallabies side reflects how dire the Wallabies are but how strong the Kiwis side (i.e. he has no chance of making the All Blacks side but he can see an international future playing for the Wallabies side)

Even further to that, you could throw the same argument for international rugby league - heck the Samoan, Tongan sides etc are full of blokes born in Australia or NZ. What does that tell you?

This whole example has no relevance to anything. I would use the Warriors and their growing popularity as an example not some Kiwi playing RU for Australia (which is really common in a lot of sports - people being born in one country and playing for another)

 

[Canard]

How is a Kiwi bloke being selected for the Wallabies have any relevance to a second Kiwi side? For example, you could make an argument that the selection of a kiwi in the Wallabies side reflects how dire the Wallabies are but how strong the Kiwis side (i.e. he has no chance of making the All Blacks side but he can see an international future playing for the Wallabies side)

Even further to that, you could throw the same argument for international rugby league - heck the Samoan, Tongan sides etc are full of blokes born in Australia or NZ. What does that tell you?

This whole example has no relevance to anything. I would use the Warriors and their growing popularity as an example not some Kiwi playing RU for Australia (which is really common in a lot of sports - people being born in one country and playing for another)

Despite howling that anyone who disagrees with him is a Union fan, @Wb1234 clearly actually is indeed a Union fan.

 

[Perth Red]

Despite howling that anyone who disagrees with him is a Union fan, @Wb1234 clearly actually is indeed a Union fan.

Well he did jump to the swans. Maybe he has jumped to the Waratahs at some point in time as well?

 

[Vlad59]

Well he did jump to the swans. Maybe he has jumped to the Waratahs at some point in time as well?

Interesting perspective from a bloke who idolises the afl and never watches Australian rugby league.

 

[T-Boon]

Vlad the Impaler

 

[Vlad59]

Vlad the Impaler

The Imbiber would be more accurate lol

 

[Wb1234]

How is a Kiwi bloke being selected for the Wallabies have any relevance to a second Kiwi side? For example, you could make an argument that the selection of a kiwi in the Wallabies side reflects how dire the Wallabies are but how strong the Kiwis side (i.e. he has no chance of making the All Blacks side but he can see an international future playing for the Wallabies side)

Even further to that, you could throw the same argument for international rugby league - heck the Samoan, Tongan sides etc are full of blokes born in Australia or NZ. What does that tell you?

This whole example has no relevance to anything. I would use the Warriors and their growing popularity as an example not some Kiwi playing RU for Australia (which is really common in a lot of sports - people being born in one country and playing for another)

Reflection of how badly super rugby is going

 

[Brian potter]

Reflection of how badly super rugby is going

You’ve already said this.

what does the selection process of the wallabies have to do with NZ2?

 

[Wb1234]

Well the kangaroos jersey was seen today in Bondi westfields wow

 

[Brian potter]

Well the kangaroos jersey was seen today in Bondi westfields wow

Kinda blows a hole in the theory that there’s no such thing as bad publicity.

 

[Colk]

Reflection of how badly super rugby is going

It is a tenuous link - it makes as much sense as all of those tik tok links that you post.

By the parameters of your own argument, you would say a whole bunch of sports are “struggling”

 

[Colk]

Kinda blows a hole in the theory that there’s no such thing as bad publicity.

Too soon fellas

 

[Wb1234]

It is a tenuous link - it makes as much sense as all of those tik tok links that you post.

By the parameters of your own argument, you would say a whole bunch of sports are “struggling”

Ok you don’t agree with me

I’ll try and only post stuff you agree with in the future

 

[Brian potter]

Ok you don’t agree with me

I’ll try and only post stuff you agree with in the future

you could always accept that there’s no link at all mate.

 

[Vlad59]

Too soon fellas

Exactly