New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

I don't hate NSW, except during SOO.

I get pissed off with the Sydney-centric coverage by News Ltd and Ch9, but NSW is still my favourite state after Queensland because of the history between the two. Queensland was NSW at one stage and wee share a similar culture.

I think the way the Sydney media has made expansion coverage all about the North Sydney Bears and Newtown Jets is harmful to the game and needs to stop. We don't need any more NSWRL teams in the NRL. Clubs like the Bears and Jetd shouldn't be placed ahead of candidates from other markets. The interests of nostalgic NSWRL fans from the baby boomer era shouldn't be placed ahead of the rest of the rugby league community.

Since 95 origin I’ve gone for qld except when smith was captain and joey was playing for the blues

I’ve been to Suncorp at different times to cheer or boo qld

 

[Canard]

Since 95 origin I’ve gone for qld except when smith was captain and joey was playing for the blues

I’ve been to Suncorp at different times to cheer or boo qld

f**k me, you are loyal to nothing.

Why do keep admitting to this stuff? It's like you repeatedly keep punching yourself in the dick.

 

[Wb1234]

Loyal to rugby league baby

 

[Canard]

Loyal to rugby league baby

You clearly watch and follow Union, and have are a Swans member, so no, you are not loyal to RL.

You swing like a dunny door

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

He will get the nrl clubs to agree to all 3 expansion teams

and if the arlc has to fund that 170 million they can afford too and it makes all the clubs even bigger profits

he will make more than that back from the next tv deal

the arlc doesn’t need to make more than 50 million pa profit once its a lot more the players and clubs get angry which is fair

How is any of this possible?

The salary cap for 2023 was $12,100,000.

The 2023 NRL Premiership salary cap will increase to $12.1m in 2023 from $9.6m in 2022, a 25% increase.

NRL announces record-high salary caps for 2023 season

The National Rugby League (NRL) is excited to announce the NRL and NRLW salary cap for season 2023 at a new record-breaking level for both male and female players.

www.nrl.com

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Each club got $5,776,470 on top of the $12,100,000 in 2023.

However, the NRL has increased payments to clubs in recent years. In its annual report, the NRL reported distributions to clubs of $98.2m in 2023 in addition to the payments to cover player salaries, a 33% increase on the previous year.

NRL clubs set for $2m a year windfall as part of PNG expansion plan | NRL | The Guardian

Discussions are underway for each of the 17 rugby league clubs to receive an additional $2m per year from the NRL

amp.theguardian.com

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That's a total of $17,876,470 per club. Each club is demanding an extra $2,000,000 to their annual grant alongside a one-time payment of $3,529,411.

NRL clubs could reportedly be paid $60 million between them, meaning each team would receive $3.5 million as a lump sum under terms being discussed by the league.

Club powerbrokers, however, are seeking an additional $2 million for five seasons form 2028, when the PNG franchise would likely enter the comp, on top of player payments.

PNG expansion bid hits $170m roadblock as NRL clubs’ demands revealed

PNG expansion bid hits $170m roadblock as NRL clubs’ demands revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

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The ARLC has to find an additional $34,000,000 per annum to meet the clubs' demand.

The broadcasters haven't stated they'll stump up an extra $34,000,000 per annum for a PNG team they do not want. Nor have they said they will provide extra money for teams in Perth and Christchurch. If the broadcasters tell V'landys they're not funding his expansion plan then he's reliant on Labor's grant to meet the club's demands or raise revenue from other sources.

If $230,000,000 of Labor's $600,000,000 goes towards the existing NRL clubs then it's a f**ken rort and tax payers won't be happy. Journalists from the News Ltd papers will focus on it to generate hysteria from their readers.

On top of this, the other expansion hopefuls who get the other two licences are expected to provide an entry fee.

Do the Christchurch bids and Bears have the money to cover an entry fee?

It looks like the clubs are trying to price all expansion hopefuls out of a licence so they can keep the competition to just 18 teams.

There's only one bid that might have the resources to cover these expenses on their own. Brisbane Tigers.

 

[Wb1234]

How is any of this possible?

The salary cap for 2023 was $12,100,000.

The 2023 NRL Premiership salary cap will increase to $12.1m in 2023 from $9.6m in 2022, a 25% increase.​

​

NRL announces record-high salary caps for 2023 season

The National Rugby League (NRL) is excited to announce the NRL and NRLW salary cap for season 2023 at a new record-breaking level for both male and female players.

www.nrl.com

​

Each club got $5,776,470 on top of the $12,100,000 in 2023.

However, the NRL has increased payments to clubs in recent years. In its annual report, the NRL reported distributions to clubs of $98.2m in 2023 in addition to the payments to cover player salaries, a 33% increase on the previous year.​

​

NRL clubs set for $2m a year windfall as part of PNG expansion plan | NRL | The Guardian

Discussions are underway for each of the 17 rugby league clubs to receive an additional $2m per year from the NRL

amp.theguardian.com

​

That's a total of $17,876,470 per club. Each club is demanding an extra $2,000,000 to their annual grant alongside a one-time payment of $3,529,411.

NRL clubs could reportedly be paid $60 million between them, meaning each team would receive $3.5 million as a lump sum under terms being discussed by the league.​

​

Club powerbrokers, however, are seeking an additional $2 million for five seasons form 2028, when the PNG franchise would likely enter the comp, on top of player payments.​

​

PNG expansion bid hits $170m roadblock as NRL clubs’ demands revealed

PNG expansion bid hits $170m roadblock as NRL clubs’ demands revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

​

The ARLC has to find an additional $34,000,000 per annum to meet the clubs' demand.

The broadcasters haven't stated they'll stump up an extra $34,000,000 per annum for a PNG team they do not want. Nor have they said they will provide extra money for teams in Perth and Christchurch. If the broadcasters tell V'landys they're not funding his expansion plan then he's reliant on Labor's grant to meet the club's demands or raise revenue from other sources.

If $230,000,000 of Labor's $600,000,000 goes towards the existing NRL clubs then it's a f**ken rort and tax payers won't be happy. Journalists from the News Ltd papers will focus on it to generate hysteria from their readers.

On top of this, the other expansion hopefuls who get the other two licences are expected to provide an entry fee.

Do the Christchurch bids and Bears have the money to cover an entry fee?

It looks like the clubs are trying to price all expansion hopefuls out of a licence so they can keep the competition to just 18 teams.

There's only one bid that might have the resources to cover these expenses on their own. Brisbane Tigers.

Arlc profit this year ? 60 million and growing minus 34 million Bribe to clubs leaves a profit of at least 26 million

profits from their hotel investments will start showing up in this years revenue for example

that alone could be 5 million extra pa

renegotiated magic deal ???

etc

 

[Canard]

IMO Warriors should really be playing more games in Hamilton. Only a 90min trip down SH1 so probably closer than a few inter-Sydney games. And probably not much longer than the trip to Mt Smart for some Aucklanders. Tricky balance though given current numbers at Mt Smart.

Maybe some Australian clubs should consider a Hamilton "home" game to cash in on the Wahs bandwagon? Anyone getting 12k or less could nearly double that right now.

Given they are selling out regularly now, do they really have to play at so many disparate locations?

 

[AlwaysGreen]

As the quote goes: wb has all the qualities of a dog except loyalty.

 

[Wb1234]

As the quote goes: wb has all the qualities of a dog except loyalty.

Salt

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Arlc profit this year ? 60 million and growing minus 34 million Bribe to clubs leaves a profit of at least 26 million

profits from their hotel investments will start showing up in this years revenue for example

that alone could be 5 million extra pa

renegotiated magic deal ???

etc

I just looked at the NRL's press release on its finances to see where its profit is coming from.

Key points of the NRL’s performance in 2023 included:

• Revenue growing 18% from $107.3m to $701.m, driven by new media rights deal and record sponsorship, wagering and game day income;
• NRL broadcast figures outstripping AFL, with 93.2m viewers tuning into Telstra Premiership matches on Nine and Fox Sports compared to 91m for AFL’s free-to-air and pay-tv coverage. Overall, rugby league viewership was 171.8m, making the code Australia’s most watched sport;
• Huge growth of interest in the expanded NRLW, with 7.2m viewers watching NRLW compared to 6.1m AFLW viewers - despite the rival code playing more than twice as many matches (99 to 48). More than 1m viewers tuned into the NRLW grand final, which was watched by a crowd of 40649 fans at Accor Stadium, while NRLW content views were up 31% on NRL.com and video views by 48%;
• Average crowds of 20,300 for the regular season and finals;3.1m NRL accounts, with 450,000 new fans signing up, while the NRL increased its lead as the largest Australian sport on TikTok with 1.22m followers, along with 1.63m followers on Instagram;
• The lowest operating costs of any Australian sport on an expense to revenue ratio of 22.2% - down from 25.5% in 2022, and;
• Grassroots participation increasing by 9% to more than 192,000 registered players, with male playing numbers up 5% and female playing numbers growing by 12%.

Game stronger than ever after record breaking 2023

The NRL announced an operating surplus of $58.2 million after generating more than $700m revenue from a season in which TV viewers, attendances and participation figures were all up.

www.nrl.com

The increase in revenue from game day was on the back of high attendances and membership sales for the Broncos and Dolphins. The Broncos and Dolphins generated the most from sponsorship. Attendances for the Cowboys and Titans increased too, with the former having one of the largest sponsorship packages in the NRL.

If we add teams in Christchurch, Perth and Port Moresby then game day revenue will fall substantially.

Port Moresby can only fit 15,000 into its ground. Its corporate facilities are poor. There isn't a large amount of cashed up rugby league fans in Port Moresby to generate the same level of game day revenue as the Broncos and Dolphins.

Perth's stadium has a capacity of just 20,500 with poor corporate facilities. It will not generate anywhere as much as the Dolphins.

Christchurch will be similar to Perth. Warriors generated just $11,600,000 from football operations in 2023.

Television ratings increased because of the Dolphins. The same will not hold true for PNG, Perth and Christchurch.

Attendances will decline with the addition of teams from Christchurch, Perth and Port Moresby.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Salt

I'm sure you are.
Now your beloved bears are getting shafted and your beloved png are getting delayed!!

 

[Wb1234]

Build an 80k png stadium they will fill it

Perth and chch will be 15 to 20k

bears will help crowds in Sydney

PNG won’t they will be a crowd killer away from home

chch will be hugely valuable to sky nz

 

[Canard]

Build an 80k png stadium they will fill it

Perth and chch will be 15 to 20k

bears will help crowds in Sydney

PNG won’t they will be a crowd killer away from home

chch will be hugely valuable to sky nz

A big crowd in Aus and NZ is a goal, because it generates revenue.

In PNG it doesn't and never will.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I don't hate NSW, except during SOO.

I get pissed off with the Sydney-centric coverage by News Ltd and Ch9, but NSW is still my favourite state after Queensland because of the history between the two. Queensland was NSW at one stage and wee share a similar culture.

I think the way the Sydney media has made expansion coverage all about the North Sydney Bears and Newtown Jets is harmful to the game and needs to stop. We don't need any more NSWRL teams in the NRL. Clubs like the Bears and Jetd shouldn't be placed ahead of candidates from other markets. The interests of nostalgic NSWRL fans from the baby boomer era shouldn't be placed ahead of the rest of the rugby league community.


I'm not convinced Las Vegas is good for the game. The ARLC is now asking fans to travel to Brisbane for Magic Round and Las Vegas. Not good for people doing it tough. When interest in Las Vegas dies down the media will trash it. Fumbleball leaning fans from the media will mock it as a "dud", hurting the game's reputation.

If rather see the season launched in New Zealand to help boost their economy. The cooler weather over there makes it a great place to launch the season in March. It's too humid in Queensland at that time of year. Give them a Magic Round to start the season so RL is the main focus across the entire country. The stronger Australian dollar will go further when converted into the New Zealand dollar. If we go to America we lose value.

I don't hate NSW outside of State of Origin either. The rivalry is real but they are our RL brothers fighting the good fight in this country.

Vegas was the biggest PR machine outside of Origin we've had in a long time and looks like it might really kick start the game in the US. Time will tell and we'll see how it plays out.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

A big crowd in Aus and NZ is a goal, because it generates revenue.

In PNG it doesn't and never will.

PNG needs the biggest no-frills stadium they can manage to have. No roofs, terraces all round but with a reasonable number of corporate boxes for sponsors and mining sector people.

 

[Wb1234]

PNG needs the biggest no-frills stadium they can manage to have. No roofs, terraces all round but with a reasonable number of corporate boxes for sponsors and mining sector people.

Santos National Stadium (PNG) | Austadiums

Information about Santos National Stadium (PNG) (PNG Football Stadium) in Port Moresby including venue layout, history, records, events, map, tickets, directions and accommodation.

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[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I don't hate NSW outside of State of Origin either. The rivalry is real but they are our RL brothers fighting the good fight in this country.

Vegas was the biggest PR machine outside of Origin we've had in a long time and looks like it might really kick start the game in the US. Time will tell and we'll see how it plays out.

I disagree about Las Vegas. 0.1% of Americans watched it. Most fans in attendance were Aussies. Media referred to it as "Aussie rugby". The only beneficiaries of the exercise were the Nevada tourism industry. I worry about how many people will show up in the upcoming years.

I hate to say it, but Yanks will never care about anything that ain't of Yankee Doodle origin. Origin in California didn't work. Kiwis vs Lions in Denver didn't work. Neither did Las Vegas.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Build an 80k png stadium they will fill it

Perth and chch will be 15 to 20k

bears will help crowds in Sydney

PNG won’t they will be a crowd killer away from home

chch will be hugely valuable to sky nz

How many Papuans can afford to attend an NRL game in Port Moresby?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

PNG needs the biggest no-frills stadium they can manage to have. No roofs, terraces all round but with a reasonable number of corporate boxes for sponsors and mining sector people.

A quarry?

 

[Pj,Rj,Hj]

A quarry?

Just like Mt Smart Stadium being built insider a quarried volcanic cone