New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Gordie]

They'll realistically have 10 years to fail, that's how long they have funded and how long it will take for people to get used to the idea of papuans playing the sport at the highest level, good on them, not sure why everyone assumes any club will "fail"
Not with grants being so high, and the fact we have clubs like Tigers, Titans lingering at the sour end of the ladder most years, and AFL doing the same with Suns and GWS (if they didn't manage them to be relevant) PNG won't fail, not in any metrics that would result in losing a licence, and not to a cashed up new bidder, it would be far easier to just hand out more licenses than to accept defeat, licences don't really cost the arlc anything but a slice of the broadcast pie

Isn’t the idea for funding by the Australian government to be replaced by corporate money from the mining and gas&oil sectors?

 

[Gordie]

If Christchurch come in, that's 26 million in wages for New Zealand players in their home country. That's just first grade as well, the lower grades are a free for all. How can union fight this? You can't just pay the All Blacks. You need to pay the youngsters.

Throw in the brining back of the old Toyota cup U20’s competition and RL would crush it at youth level both on the north island and South Island.

 

[Matua]

If Christchurch come in, that's 26 million in wages for New Zealand players in their home country. That's just first grade as well, the lower grades are a free for all. How can union fight this? You can't just pay the All Blacks. You need to pay the youngsters.

Except not all that money goes to NZers, a chunk of it goes to journeyman Aussies. Players like Lussick suck up some of that money.

As for paying younger players, as I've said before the peak for this in regards to young NZers was in the U20 days, even that competition wasn't enough to topple the pipeline in NZ rugby.

 

[Matua]

Do these players primarily play on a 7’s circuit or do they also play in the NPC cup?

Primarily the 7s circuit but some will play parts of the NPC if they're available.

TBH 7s is such a specialised game these days and realistically no long term 7s players seem to make a dent in 15s anymore.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Except not all that money goes to NZers, a chunk of it goes to journeyman Aussies. Players like Lussick suck up some of that money.

As for paying younger players, as I've said before the peak for this in regards to young NZers was in the U20 days, even that competition wasn't enough to topple the pipeline in NZ rugby.

Except it's not. The Warriors have put in place 5 new feeder teams this season making it biggest pathways system to have ever existed.

The Post

www.thepost.co.nz

 

[Wb1234]

Except it's not. The Warriors have put in place 5 new feeder teams this season making it biggest pathways system to have ever existed.

The Post

www.thepost.co.nz

Where’s that muppet that said nz juniors were collapsing

Christchurch will emulate these same pathways together with Aussie scouts getting talent

That figure of 23 percent of nrl players coming from nz will surely rise

 

[Gobsmacked]

Where’s that muppet that said nz juniors were collapsing

Christchurch will emulate these same pathways together with Aussie scouts getting talent

That figure of 23 percent of nrl players coming from nz will surely rise

The national schoolboy comp has increased from 24 teams to 60 with a team from Christchurch winning it.

 

[Wb1234]

The national schoolboy comp has increased from 24 teams to 60 with a team from Christchurch winning it.

Arlc increased the grant to the nzrl (Phil Gould played a part

 

[Gobsmacked]

Arlc increased the grant to the nzrl (Phil Gould played a part

Rugby league is booming in NZ across the board. To say otherwise is blatant trolling.

 

[Gordie]

The national schoolboy comp has increased from 24 teams to 60 with a team from Christchurch winning it.

Irrespective of whether the South Island gets a NRL team or not there needs to be a South Island u20’s team entered into the new NYC at the very least and maybe even an u18 team entered as well.

 

[Gordie]

Where’s that muppet that said nz juniors were collapsing

Christchurch will emulate these same pathways together with Aussie scouts getting talent

That figure of 23 percent of nrl players coming from nz will surely rise

Haven’t the bulldogs teamed up with the Canterbury NZRL to create pathways programs?

 

[Gordie]

Rugby league is booming in NZ across the board. To say otherwise is blatant trolling.

Can’t be a coincidence at the same time super rugby and NPC is on a downward trajectory.

 

[Gordie]

Arlc increased the grant to the nzrl (Phil Gould played a part

Should Australia takeover the NZRL?

 

[Wb1234]

Should Australia takeover the NZRL?

That’s up to the nzrl

But it would mean more funding if they did

 

[Gordie]

That’s up to the nzrl

But it would mean more funding if they did

Tricky one for me as more funding would mean more kiwi kids playing the game and turning pro but I wouldn’t want the NZRL to lose their autonomy.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Tricky one for me as more funding would mean more kiwi kids playing the game and turning pro but I wouldn’t want the NZRL to lose their autonomy.

The model in Australia is where NSW and QLD get funding but are autonomous from the NRL.. why can't NZ be the same?

 

[Gordie]

The model in Australia is where NSW and QLD get funding but are autonomous from the NRL.. why can't NZ be the same?

I didn’t know that.

NZ should definitely be the same then.

 

[Gordie]

In fact the ARL/NRL should take over the entire pacific region.

 

[Perth Red]

Should Australia takeover the NZRL?

I was disappointed the NZRL and ARL didnt join forces in 2012 to have an ANZ joint commission. It was short sighted. NZRL has for years operated on a pittance. Last financial year they only had $12.1mill revenue.
They have lost $2.8mill over the last 2 years.

 

[Gordie]

I was disappointed the NZRL and ARL didnt join forces in 2012 to have an ANZ joint commission. It was short sighted.

Why 2012. They were in talks about it back then?