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The_Wookie

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If there was any concern that the Murdoch media were ignoring the dud deal (not for them mind you) that the NRL got, then this headline in today`s The Australian certainly puts it front and centre just before season kick-off and certainly will put a dampener on the hype we are to be hearing about the new C.B.A and record funding for the clubs.

Media Buzz: $277 million gap between AFL and NRL revealed​

The NRL has been boasting about making a $60 million surplus in 2022.
However rugby league’s revenue is still $277 million behind its main rival, the AFL. Figures reveal the AFL had an income of $870 million last year compared to the NRL’s $593 million.

This is before the AFL’s new $4.5 billion TV deal kicks in.


I just can`t see V`landy`s and the ARLC being happy about this at all, humiliated in fact, expect to see some changes leading up to 2028.

Article is a direct ripoff of a post i made 4 days ago.
 

Wb1234

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If there was any concern that the Murdoch media were ignoring the dud deal (not for them mind you) that the NRL got, then this headline in today`s The Australian certainly puts it front and centre just before season kick-off and certainly will put a dampener on the hype we are to be hearing about the new C.B.A and record funding for the clubs.

Media Buzz: $277 million gap between AFL and NRL revealed​

The NRL has been boasting about making a $60 million surplus in 2022.
However rugby league’s revenue is still $277 million behind its main rival, the AFL. Figures reveal the AFL had an income of $870 million last year compared to the NRL’s $593 million.

This is before the AFL’s new $4.5 billion TV deal kicks in.


I just can`t see V`landy`s and the ARLC being happy about this at all, humiliated in fact, expect to see some changes leading up to 2028.
Terrorgraph probably got that from a post on here by you know who

tbf they are shooting themselves in the foot

but it counters all the talk on here that news ltd only post positive articles about him
 

Wb1234

Immortal
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If there was any concern that the Murdoch media were ignoring the dud deal (not for them mind you) that the NRL got, then this headline in today`s The Australian certainly puts it front and centre just before season kick-off and certainly will put a dampener on the hype we are to be hearing about the new C.B.A and record funding for the clubs.

Media Buzz: $277 million gap between AFL and NRL revealed​

The NRL has been boasting about making a $60 million surplus in 2022.
However rugby league’s revenue is still $277 million behind its main rival, the AFL. Figures reveal the AFL had an income of $870 million last year compared to the NRL’s $593 million.

This is before the AFL’s new $4.5 billion TV deal kicks in.


I just can`t see V`landy`s and the ARLC being happy about this at all, humiliated in fact, expect to see some changes leading up to 2028.

Roths a dope

here is blaming the govts failure to do shark park as a reason they will lose the election

bc the 300k voters in cronulla will all vote labor now and that will make the difference in the election
 

docbrown

Coach
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Considering the last two weeks of ratings before the NRL starts:

Thursday Night Football slot:
C9 RBT 469k
C7 Home and Away 402k
C10 Googlebox 480k
Main takeaway: at 730pm over 100k viewers turned off Channel 9 because there was no footy

Friday Night Football slot:
C9 Love of Pets 284k
C7 Better Homes 387k
C10 Graham Norton 239k
Main takeaway: with no footy Friday nights are dead air

Saturday Night Football slot:
C9 Space Invaders 289k
C7 Border Patrol 301k
C10 NCIS 158k
CGem Super Rugby 71k lol
Main takeaway: with no footy Saturday nights are dead air

Sunday Arvo Football slot:
C9 below 179k (yikes)
C7 Early News 234k
C10 News 208k
Main takeaway: Without Sunday footy, Channel 9 didn’t have a news lead in program in the Top 20. This in turn affected their news ratings.

Sunday Twilight slot:
C9 News 661k
C7 News 787k
C10 The Project 242k
Main takeaway: Channel 10‘s Sunday news slot rates only 3k more than it’s shit Friday Night. It’s a joke. Cancel the shitty Project and show NRL from 530 to 730. Buy a 3 to 5pm game and you’ve got perfect news wraparounds that can target 3 or 4 metros.

Sunday Night post 730pm slot:
C9 MAFS 961k
C7 Idol 481k
C10 Survivor 488k
Main takeaway: Without MAFS Channel 9 would sink. Also Idol sucks arse. A 300k shed is abysmal.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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Abortion Ball goes for 3 hrs (game time plus Q/Ts & H/T)
RL goes for 2 hrs ( Game time plus H/T)
a few years ago I worked out what each game was worth per hr when arguing with a fumbler .
surprisingly P/H we were worth more .
i will always take that as a positive .
Don’t know if it’s still like that .
but there wouldn’t be much difference.
and we have origin and much higher ratings. Duration is just one factor, or excuse that people seem to like to use to justify our constant poor performance in tv deals.

And lets not lay blame at anyone elses feet for lack of content, the only reason we dont have 9 games to sell right now is becasue our leadership continues to faff around and have no confidence in itself. We sat around whilst AFL launched a full AFLW comp and will have taken years playing catch up on that one.
We had an excuse up to 2012. The last decade less so. We should have gone to 18 clubs ready for the 2018- tv deal and be talking about club 19 &20 for 2028.
 
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Iamback

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and we have origin and much higher ratings. Duration is just one factor, or excuse that people seem to like to use to justify our constant poor performance in tv deals.

And lets not lay blame at anyone elses feet for lack of content, the only reason we dont have 9 games to sell right now is becasue our leadership continues to faff around and have no confidence in itself. We sat around whilst AFL launched a full AFLW comp and will have taken years playing catch up on that one.
We had an excuse up to 2012. The last decade less so. We should have gone to 18 clubs ready for the 2018- tv deal and be talking about club 19 &20 for 2028.

Wookie did a great breakdown of the revenue. It wasn't there.
You are forgetting the NRL owning Newcastle and GC in that time.
The NRLW is going slow due to the players Ruan Sims has admitted the NRL wanted a 6 team comp. Players wanted 4 to keep games close.

Not every issue in RL is due to NRL neglect
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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Wookie did a great breakdown of the revenue. It wasn't there.
You are forgetting the NRL owning Newcastle and GC in that time.
The NRLW is going slow due to the players Ruan Sims has admitted the NRL wanted a 6 team comp. Players wanted 4 to keep games close.

Not every issue in RL is due to NRL neglect
What wasnt there? its a difference of $2.5billion over last decade or so. Its currently sitting at a gap of around $280mill a year, the largest for 10 years, and thats before the next tv deals start.
 

Wb1234

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and we have origin and much higher ratings. Duration is just one factor, or excuse that people seem to like to use to justify our constant poor performance in tv deals.

And lets not lay blame at anyone elses feet for lack of content, the only reason we dont have 9 games to sell right now is becasue our leadership continues to faff around and have no confidence in itself. We sat around whilst AFL launched a full AFLW comp and will have taken years playing catch up on that one.
We had an excuse up to 2012. The last decade less so. We should have gone to 18 clubs ready for the 2018- tv deal and be talking about club 19 &20 for 2028.
Lmao take out covid and vlandys added the dolphins in a year and Perth after 3 years

even your beloved afl hasn’t moved that fast
 

Nerd

Bench
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Foxtel Media credits the strong sponsor line up to the record-breaking ratings achieved during the 2022 NRL season
https://www.mediaweek.com.au/foxtel-media-reveals-its-12-sponsors-for-the-2023-nrl-season/#
Foxtel Media has announced the 12 brands that have signed on as sponsors for the 2023 NRL season that will kick off on March 2nd.
Sportsbet, McDonald’s, KIA, KFC, VB, McCain, Ford, Red Rooster, Harvey Norman, Chemist Warehouse and Telstra are the 2023 season game day sponsors, with Westpac coming on as the 2023 Fox League Super Saturday Naming Rights partner.
Westpac will partner with Fox League to produce a dedicated, first-of-its-kind Women’s Rugby League entertainment program, while Fox League will be amplifying the “Westpac Red Zone” across all platforms in season 2023.
Foxtel Media credits this strong sponsor line up to the record-breaking ratings achieved during the 2022 NRL season.

The 2022 season became the #1 performing season across Foxtel Group platforms. The season achieved an 11% YoY growth in audience and Kayo Sports averaged more than 100 million minutes of NRL streamed weekly.

The match between the Melbourne Storm and the Penrith Panthers (R10) scored the highest viewership of the season and is now the top-rated regular season game with an average audience of 602,000 across both Foxtel and Kayo Sports.
The Magic Round also topped the most-watched regular season round of all time, with an average audience of 473,000.

Streaming continues to surge, with Kayo Sport’s subscriber count now more than 1.13 million- an 11% increase from last year.

Martin Medcraf, director of sports sales and brand partnerships at Foxtel Media, said: “With the 2023 season just around the corner, the 2022 NRL season ratings affirm our expertise in delivering the best, most watchable sports experiences on the market.

“With our world-class technology, we always bring avid fans one step closer to the action with greater insights, expert commentary and deep analysis. We continue to commit to no ad breaks in live play, and command exclusive rights to all matches on Super Saturdays. This means that brands will be able to reach a massive cross section of dedicated NRL fans who are flocking to our services.”

Annabel Fribence, chief brand and marketing officer at Westpac, said: “Rugby League is one of Australia’s most exciting sports, loved and played in communities across the country, which is why we’re thrilled to be the Naming Rights partner for Westpac Super Saturdays on Fox Sports for 2023.

“Westpac is committed to supporting all facets of the game, which is why we wanted to join forces with Foxtel, the home of Women’s sports, to produce a new and exciting Women’s Rugby League entertainment program. We look forward to being a part of the action this NRL season.”

 

Pneuma

First Grade
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Foxtel Media credits the strong sponsor line up to the record-breaking ratings achieved during the 2022 NRL season
https://www.mediaweek.com.au/foxtel-media-reveals-its-12-sponsors-for-the-2023-nrl-season/#
Foxtel Media has announced the 12 brands that have signed on as sponsors for the 2023 NRL season that will kick off on March 2nd.
Sportsbet, McDonald’s, KIA, KFC, VB, McCain, Ford, Red Rooster, Harvey Norman, Chemist Warehouse and Telstra are the 2023 season game day sponsors, with Westpac coming on as the 2023 Fox League Super Saturday Naming Rights partner.
Westpac will partner with Fox League to produce a dedicated, first-of-its-kind Women’s Rugby League entertainment program, while Fox League will be amplifying the “Westpac Red Zone” across all platforms in season 2023.
Foxtel Media credits this strong sponsor line up to the record-breaking ratings achieved during the 2022 NRL season.

The 2022 season became the #1 performing season across Foxtel Group platforms. The season achieved an 11% YoY growth in audience and Kayo Sports averaged more than 100 million minutes of NRL streamed weekly.

The match between the Melbourne Storm and the Penrith Panthers (R10) scored the highest viewership of the season and is now the top-rated regular season game with an average audience of 602,000 across both Foxtel and Kayo Sports.
The Magic Round also topped the most-watched regular season round of all time, with an average audience of 473,000.

Streaming continues to surge, with Kayo Sport’s subscriber count now more than 1.13 million- an 11% increase from last year.

Martin Medcraf, director of sports sales and brand partnerships at Foxtel Media, said: “With the 2023 season just around the corner, the 2022 NRL season ratings affirm our expertise in delivering the best, most watchable sports experiences on the market.

“With our world-class technology, we always bring avid fans one step closer to the action with greater insights, expert commentary and deep analysis. We continue to commit to no ad breaks in live play, and command exclusive rights to all matches on Super Saturdays. This means that brands will be able to reach a massive cross section of dedicated NRL fans who are flocking to our services.”

Annabel Fribence, chief brand and marketing officer at Westpac, said: “Rugby League is one of Australia’s most exciting sports, loved and played in communities across the country, which is why we’re thrilled to be the Naming Rights partner for Westpac Super Saturdays on Fox Sports for 2023.

“Westpac is committed to supporting all facets of the game, which is why we wanted to join forces with Foxtel, the home of Women’s sports, to produce a new and exciting Women’s Rugby League entertainment program. We look forward to being a part of the action this NRL season.”

Now over to league unlimited’s biggest whinger to find a negative!
 
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I posted how we were a few yrs ago getting more P/H
he bitched about that .Of course .
then had his usual rant
What is wrong with earning more P/H with less screen time if your costs are a lot less than your rival .
if I can get a job that pays more P/H for less work time I’m taking it .
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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I posted how we were a few yrs ago getting more P/H
he bitched about that .Of course .
then had his usual rant
What is wrong with earning more P/H with less screen time if your costs are a lot less than your rival .
if I can get a job that pays more P/H for less work time I’m taking it .
yeh Id much rather not have $2.5billion. Said no one with any sense ever!
 

The Penguin #6.

Juniors
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Foxtel Media credits the strong sponsor line up to the record-breaking ratings achieved during the 2022 NRL season
https://www.mediaweek.com.au/foxtel-media-reveals-its-12-sponsors-for-the-2023-nrl-season/#
Foxtel Media has announced the 12 brands that have signed on as sponsors for the 2023 NRL season that will kick off on March 2nd.
Sportsbet, McDonald’s, KIA, KFC, VB, McCain, Ford, Red Rooster, Harvey Norman, Chemist Warehouse and Telstra are the 2023 season game day sponsors, with Westpac coming on as the 2023 Fox League Super Saturday Naming Rights partner.
Westpac will partner with Fox League to produce a dedicated, first-of-its-kind Women’s Rugby League entertainment program, while Fox League will be amplifying the “Westpac Red Zone” across all platforms in season 2023.
Foxtel Media credits this strong sponsor line up to the record-breaking ratings achieved during the 2022 NRL season.

The 2022 season became the #1 performing season across Foxtel Group platforms. The season achieved an 11% YoY growth in audience and Kayo Sports averaged more than 100 million minutes of NRL streamed weekly.

The match between the Melbourne Storm and the Penrith Panthers (R10) scored the highest viewership of the season and is now the top-rated regular season game with an average audience of 602,000 across both Foxtel and Kayo Sports.
The Magic Round also topped the most-watched regular season round of all time, with an average audience of 473,000.

Streaming continues to surge, with Kayo Sport’s subscriber count now more than 1.13 million- an 11% increase from last year.

Martin Medcraf, director of sports sales and brand partnerships at Foxtel Media, said: “With the 2023 season just around the corner, the 2022 NRL season ratings affirm our expertise in delivering the best, most watchable sports experiences on the market.

“With our world-class technology, we always bring avid fans one step closer to the action with greater insights, expert commentary and deep analysis. We continue to commit to no ad breaks in live play, and command exclusive rights to all matches on Super Saturdays. This means that brands will be able to reach a massive cross section of dedicated NRL fans who are flocking to our services.”

Annabel Fribence, chief brand and marketing officer at Westpac, said: “Rugby League is one of Australia’s most exciting sports, loved and played in communities across the country, which is why we’re thrilled to be the Naming Rights partner for Westpac Super Saturdays on Fox Sports for 2023.

“Westpac is committed to supporting all facets of the game, which is why we wanted to join forces with Foxtel, the home of Women’s sports, to produce a new and exciting Women’s Rugby League entertainment program. We look forward to being a part of the action this NRL season.”

I read that and I don`t know whether to laugh or cry.
 

Pneuma

First Grade
Messages
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Speaking of television deals, just noticed tonight that channel 7 are running an interview with Clarkson, the afl coach accused of and being investigated for some alleged awful racist acts while at hawthorn. The bit I saw as a preview portrays him as a hero. The afl and 7 are a cartel with 7 complicit in supporting the afl sweep its controversies under the table. Perth dread’s hero Gil obviously wants the slate cleaned before he goes. 7 appear to be there to support him. This is ugly.
 

Brick Tamland

Juniors
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Anyone have access to the article and any associated crystal balling into ten as a bidder for NRL?
The NRL isn't mentioned, but the article notes:

- Not closing ch 10, one part of the puzzle for Paramounts Australian division
- $324.3m profit for 2021 financial year (3.4m loss in 2020)
- $695.8m revenue in 2021 ($583m in 2020) - figures are solely for ch 10, excludes revenue for streaming
- Underlying earnings expected to be slightly lower in 2022 due to programming flops
- Paramount+ has more than 1 million local subscribers.

Most important quote:

Kyriacou said nothing had changed about the group’s growth aspirations for this market, including in sports deals. “When sports come up for negotiation, will we be leaning in? Of course. We’re in a super position for sports rights because we’ve got a free broadcaster and we’ve got a subscription service,” she says.
 

Wb1234

Immortal
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Foxtel Media credits the strong sponsor line up to the record-breaking ratings achieved during the 2022 NRL season
https://www.mediaweek.com.au/foxtel-media-reveals-its-12-sponsors-for-the-2023-nrl-season/#
Foxtel Media has announced the 12 brands that have signed on as sponsors for the 2023 NRL season that will kick off on March 2nd.
Sportsbet, McDonald’s, KIA, KFC, VB, McCain, Ford, Red Rooster, Harvey Norman, Chemist Warehouse and Telstra are the 2023 season game day sponsors, with Westpac coming on as the 2023 Fox League Super Saturday Naming Rights partner.
Westpac will partner with Fox League to produce a dedicated, first-of-its-kind Women’s Rugby League entertainment program, while Fox League will be amplifying the “Westpac Red Zone” across all platforms in season 2023.
Foxtel Media credits this strong sponsor line up to the record-breaking ratings achieved during the 2022 NRL season.

The 2022 season became the #1 performing season across Foxtel Group platforms. The season achieved an 11% YoY growth in audience and Kayo Sports averaged more than 100 million minutes of NRL streamed weekly.

The match between the Melbourne Storm and the Penrith Panthers (R10) scored the highest viewership of the season and is now the top-rated regular season game with an average audience of 602,000 across both Foxtel and Kayo Sports.
The Magic Round also topped the most-watched regular season round of all time, with an average audience of 473,000.

Streaming continues to surge, with Kayo Sport’s subscriber count now more than 1.13 million- an 11% increase from last year.

Martin Medcraf, director of sports sales and brand partnerships at Foxtel Media, said: “With the 2023 season just around the corner, the 2022 NRL season ratings affirm our expertise in delivering the best, most watchable sports experiences on the market.

“With our world-class technology, we always bring avid fans one step closer to the action with greater insights, expert commentary and deep analysis. We continue to commit to no ad breaks in live play, and command exclusive rights to all matches on Super Saturdays. This means that brands will be able to reach a massive cross section of dedicated NRL fans who are flocking to our services.”

Annabel Fribence, chief brand and marketing officer at Westpac, said: “Rugby League is one of Australia’s most exciting sports, loved and played in communities across the country, which is why we’re thrilled to be the Naming Rights partner for Westpac Super Saturdays on Fox Sports for 2023.

“Westpac is committed to supporting all facets of the game, which is why we wanted to join forces with Foxtel, the home of Women’s sports, to produce a new and exciting Women’s Rugby League entertainment program. We look forward to being a part of the action this NRL season.”

Cmon stan bid against these guys so we can get market value

the amount of money foxtel has made from league is staggering
 
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yeh Id much rather not have $2.5billion. Said no one with any sense ever!
And you are fixated .
you never take into account the cost of extra games ..travel
larger squads etc .the far larger overheads of the AFL .
many businesses flourish with smaller overheads than their rivals .
not in your AFL loving world .
It’s all about rant rant rant ..PVL PVL PVL .
GIl GOOd
GIl GReat
AFL wonderful .
 

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