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LESStar58

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Hows the AFL ratings in Sydney compared to the NRLs in Melbourne? I suspect Storm are drawing better on pay tv but worse on FTA due to Ch9's poor covg and burying on digital?

Cant compare AFL in Brisbane to NRL in Perth yet until we get a club and get the game established stronger here.

Adeilade and Tassie is obviously a no brainer to AFL for same reason as Perth.

How about NT and ACT, how do the figures fair in Darwin and Canberra?

Regional NSW saves the NRL's bacon alot I reckon, Sydney audiences arent huge for its population.

mate, Storm have not been on FTA ALL YEAR! Thats why Storm do shit on Channel 9!
 

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Hows the AFL ratings in Sydney compared to the NRLs in Melbourne? I suspect Storm are drawing better on pay tv but worse on FTA due to Ch9's poor covg and burying on digital?

Cant compare AFL in Brisbane to NRL in Perth yet until we get a club and get the game established stronger here.

Adeilade and Tassie is obviously a no brainer to AFL for same reason as Perth.

How about NT and ACT, how do the figures fair in Darwin and Canberra?

Regional NSW saves the NRL's bacon alot I reckon, Sydney audiences arent huge for its population.

FTA AFL in Sydney averaging 29k according to this;

http://footyindustry.com/files/afl/media/tvratings/2015/2015AFLRatingsR1-3.png

FTA NRL in Melbourne averaging 34k according to this;

https://twitter.com/RL_Ratings/status/591158326450229249


So NRL in melbourne outrates AFL in Sydney despite no Storm games on FTA, unlike Swans who are broadcast every week live.
 
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NRL to begin broadcast negotiations within weeks

The NRL is set to begin negotiations for the next broadcast deal within weeks in a bid to get ahead of the AFL and maximise the number of bidders.

Despite the current $1 billion, five-year deal not being due to expire until the end of the 2017 season, the NRL has advised executives from Channel Nine, Fox Sports and Telstra that it wants to start the negotiating process now.

It is understood the NRL's rationale for commencing talks with the broadcasters is to ensure rival networks are also able to bid as Channel Seven was never a serious contender when the last deal was done in 2012 after securing the AFL rights months earlier.


With the AFL rights also due to expire in 2017, whichever code gets a deal done first will have more networks bidding - a situation that NRL officials believe will ensure a higher price.

The AFL's current deal with Seven and Fox Sports is valued at $1.25 billion, while the NRL secured $475 million from Nine and $550 million from Fox Sports in the last round of negotiations.

The sale of the digital rights to Telstra and a deal with Sky Sports NZ to broadcast matches in New Zealand take the NRL's total broadcast revenue to close to the AFL figure, but officials believe they can secure more next time.

Fairfax Media has been told the NRL hopes to get between $1.5 billion and $2 billion from the next deal but other sources say $1.3 billion might be a more realistic figure.

Nine boss David Gyngell recently acknowledged the network would have to pay more to retain the NRL rights and said he would do everything possible to ensure that they did.

"I wouldn't on my watch say we'd ever give up on sports rights and they will go up again like last time and people will try and talk it down in the meantime, and they won't go up as much as the sports bodies want, but they go more than the incumbents like us want them to go up," Gyngell told Media Watch.

Channel Ten, whose chairman is Lachlan Murdoch, are also expected to bid aggressively for the free-to-air rights, while the NRL is hoping Seven will table a bid.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...egotiations-within-weeks-20150424-1msrrk.html
 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...319341264?nk=2dff472bbc84509dc93752a190142080

Rugby league blows siren on record billion dollar TV rights deal

The Australian
April 24, 2015 6:08PM

Rugby league has blown the siren on a new record billion dollar TV rights deal, pulling forward negotiations by one year in a surprise move to blindside the AFL.

It’s understood Australian Rugby League Commission CEO David Smith phoned the bosses of rights holders Nine Network and Fox Sports on Friday morning to give formal notification that he will kick off the process next week.

Mr Smith also contacted the Seven and Ten networks in a clear sign the code will aggressively exploit competitive tension to beat the $1.1bn contract signed in 2012.

The rugby league boss has conjured up an audacious move to get one over Australian Football League chief executive Gillon McLachlan, deftly exploiting the rival code’s delayed talks. A spokesman for the NRL declined to comment.

Broadcasters are paying more than ever for exclusive rights because the immediacy of fixtures and fan loyalty ensure big live audiences, which will push up the value of the NRL’s rights.

Bidding for rights as they come up for renewal has become an even fiercer game, which will make the spectacle as intriguing as the matches themselves in the coming months.

But the NRL is unlikely to match the extraordinary sports rights inflation recently seen in the US and UK markets, which do not have the anti-siphoning list.

The regulation ring fences a long list of top-tier sports events and fixtures for the free-to-air networks, effectively locking subscription-TV provider Foxtel out of the bidding process. The range of the controversial regulation is unique to Australia.

In February, European satellite broadcaster SKY and telco BT forked out a record £5.1 billion ($10 billion) for television rights to broadcast English Premier League games in 2016-2019.

The stunning 70 per cent price hike came amid a massive bidding war that also included reported bids from America’s Discovery Network and Qatar’s beIN Sports.

For free-to-air network CEOs, it’s also getting tougher to deliver earnings growth because of flat conditions in the advertising market and cost inflation. While the media bosses will do what it takes to win the rights, they will not have open cheque books, opening up the possibility of two free-to-air networks sharing matches to keep a lid on costs.

Presently, Nine owns all the free-to-air rights, with Fox Sports and Foxtel broadcasting pay-TV rights.

Mr Smith has swooped in after The Australian revealed Mr McLachlan postponed his own talks due to ongoing uncertainty surrounding the sale of potential bidder Ten Network.

The AFL Commission decided to wait for the free-to-air network’s future to be clarified to maximise competition tension and get the best possible deal.

The NRL’s five-year deal with Nine and Fox Sports is worth $1.025 billion, comprising $925 million in cash and a further $100m in contra advertising.

The agreement is only just short of the $1.253 billion five-year deal AFL deal, which improved on its previous deal of $749 million.
 
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Smart move and will give them a gauge on value of expansion, they could even pitch a staged 4 club expansion over the 7 years of the deal.
 

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But what are they selling?

If they are allowing broadcasters to structure the club, state and international fixtures then it could be a very poor outcome for the game.
 

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But what are they selling?

If they are allowing broadcasters to structure the club, state and international fixtures then it could be a very poor outcome for the game.

The TV deal is by far the single largest source of funds for any code, to deny that would by beyond idiotic....

Involving the networks from the very beginning of any new structure the NRL was to take on is simply pragmatic. If, on the other hand, they were to announce a new draw structure and 2 new teams, they could lose out on a massive chunk of potential revenue.

And this isnt to say that they will give everything away, just that all things will be weighed and considered properly.
 

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So the NRL seems keen on a bidding war between 7 and 9, whereas AFL have more hope for 7 v 10. Probably places the NRL in the better position given 10's poor position.....

From a fan perspective, i would hope for a deal with 7. They provide by far the best quality production, with 9s by far the worst. Plus, 7 are happy to sprinkle promotions through their other programs and are freely biased in their news reports.

(having said that, i just cant imagine 9 being outbid...)
 

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...this is got years to run....but I do think Ch9 has lost any idea on innovation and promotion if the game outside of NSW or QLD....the unfair scheduling and biased to certain teams on Friday night...
Everything from Gus and Rabs...ranting and waffling on about private stuff to idiots like Lockyer, Johns, Finch and Fittller being allowed to speak on TV....
Don't even start about the Footy Show.....
 
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Just out of interest...do the NSW Cup and QLD Cup sign separate deals for TV coverage?

I only ask as Ch 9 seems to televise Q-cup and Fox plays NSW Cup.

And for the next deal, if Fox is involved, wouldn't mind seeing the NRL / RL have it's own dedicated channel airing the NRL, Q and NSW cups and ESL.
 

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Cue the Victorians protesting why networks would want to buy the rights when crowds are so poor... classic Victorian logic
 

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The Wookie has gone into meltdown over at Bigpoofy

They think the NRL have brought forward negotiations because they're obsessed with the AFL? :roll:

Has nothing to do with wanting 7 to have a crack at some games while they still have the means to :sarcasm:
 

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It's great to see the NRL start the discussions now for the next tv deal.

I have a feeling the NRL has figured out what their preferred expansion options are (geographically anyway, they may still be deciding which Brisbane syndicate to choose, for example), and wants to know exactly what those locations will bring to the next deal. The clock is ticking, so this needs to be done now so the winning bids are notified with enough lead-in time to be competitive from game 1.

Meanwhile, the AFL can afford to delay talks with the networks, because they will offer exactly the same competition next time around, unless one of the weaker clubs relocate or go out of business. They need to consolidate, and expansion is just not in the near future.
 

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It's great to see the NRL start the discussions now for the next tv deal.

I have a feeling the NRL has figured out what their preferred expansion options are (geographically anyway, they may still be deciding which Brisbane syndicate to choose, for example), and wants to know exactly what those locations will bring to the next deal. The clock is ticking, so this needs to be done now so the winning bids are notified with enough lead-in time to be competitive from game 1.

Meanwhile, the AFL can afford to delay talks with the networks, because they will offer exactly the same competition next time around, unless one of the weaker clubs relocate or go out of business. They need to consolidate, and expansion is just not in the near future.

Haven't you heard? NZ are crying out for a Ozzie flog ball team and the AFL are taking over NZ with their bs participation figures.
 
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