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docbrown

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Seriously have some of these whinging bitches forgotten how bad off we were under Gallop.


Dave Smith could say
We got 5 billion .
2 new clubs
Far higher salary cap .
Every game live on FTA .
Each viewer gets free beer supplied by a topless bikini model .
Blowjob by said model if your team wins .

& you would still have the same morons moaning,bitching & but but but butting

It would also somehow be the NRL's fault for their own dicks being too small.
 

meltiger

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The thing that makes league even more valuable to Fox than then AFL is the FTA deal the AFL have. If I'm a Swanies supporter in Sydney I get to see most of their games on FTA, same goes for the Suns & Lions fans so there is no real incentive to get Fox. But non-Sydney NRL fans only get to see the same games as everyone else, so Foxis a must.

This is a very good point

Remember reading an article years ago about the odd shit they have on pay in the U.S. The general point of the article was that you only needed a small hardcore base to make buying the rights profitable, as they will subscribe solely for that purpose

Using the Storm as an example. If you want to watch their away games, or can't get to every home game you simply have to subscribe to fox. With a large amount of northern and kiwi expats in the supporter base, they likely wouldn't keep it for the AFL, so the hit to them would be quite significant in Melbourne alone were they to lose the rights.

That's not even looking at those of us who support northern based teams either.
 

Canard

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At what time though ? I've heard people say that it's shown in the early hours of the morning

Live and in HD on GEM since 2013 (or even 2012??)


Anyone who thinks the NRL will have complete control of the draw is kidding themselves. Broncos will have plenty of Thursday or Friday games, Roosters & other popular NSW teams like the Bulldogs & Dragons will have a lot on Channel 9 as well. ( depending on how strong teams like Manly & Parra are at the time as well ). For teams like the Titans, Warriors & Raiders nothing much will change. Also, when the big 3 retire, the Storm will drop down the importance for Channel 9 as well ( not that they're that high currently).

Basically you are saying that the NRL will acquiesce to 9's demands on TV scheduling.

I don't see why they would. They have the money in the bank now, and the clubs will have to sign off any schedule.

9 should have input but no final say in any schedule.
 
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flippikat

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Ain't it funny that for Fox to keep having 5 exclusive games per weekend, they would have to plead for the NRL to expand by 2 clubs - AND they'd have to compensate the NRL for loss of some Nine money if they want to simulcast the others?

Well played, NRL.
 

Chief_Chujo

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Ain't it funny that for Fox to keep having 5 exclusive games per weekend, they would have to plead for the NRL to expand by 2 clubs - AND they'd have to compensate the NRL for loss of some Nine money if they want to simulcast the others?

Well played, NRL.

And if FOX do want that fifth game and have to fund expansion the existing clubs can't say no to it.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Well what other Pay TV company is going to pick it up if they don't?

What am I missing?

This 9 deal means the NRL has $1bil locked in already, so if it comes to a staring contest, the ARLC is in a position of strength. If FOX dont pay up, the ARLC could give the rights to FetchTV or someone else for nothing without missing a step, while the PayTv subscriptions brought in by NRL content would evaporate immediately.

The reason this feels rushed is becasue the announcement was unexpected. Since there were no leaks, there was no build up/no expectation/no cathartic narrative. But that is only our perception as outsiders.
 

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The announcement coming out of the blue was a tactic imo, they could have delayed an announcement until all the contracts were finalised and had Gyngell booked in for the presser, but they didn't, they are pushing fox into a corner to buy all 8 games.
 

Johnny88

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I know its far fetched but what if Rupert decides he aint happy with the 4 games left which are the dregs in bad timeslots for him offers the 12 nrl clubs 20 mill a season to join a break away comp from 2018.
The only Night time slot Fox will have is 5pm sat and they have tried the 6pm Sun slot before it failed with the ratings. The NRL took the best fox slots out of the deal (Sat 7:30pm Mon 7pm)
 

Cockadoodledoo

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This 9 deal means the NRL has $1bil locked in already, so if it comes to a staring contest, the ARLC is in a position of strength. If FOX dont pay up, the ARLC could give the rights to FetchTV or someone else for nothing without missing a step, while the PayTv subscriptions brought in by NRL content would evaporate immediately.

That would be good business, not.. The NRL want at least $1.7B and giving away the remaining for next to nothing would be an absolute disaster.
 

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NRL broadcast rights: Fox snub puts cash target in doubt

The media adviser who worked with the NRL on the previous broadcast rights deal has warned that the decision to sign a new agreement with the Nine Network, blindsiding Fox Sports, has put at risk the code’s hopes of an expected $1.7 billion payday.


Colin Smith, said yesterday Fox Sports had been disrespected and left with “crap content”.
“You can’t say this is entirely respectful of them, being a long-term broadcaster, by the NRL,’’

It’s a massive gamble. As I understand it, they hadn’t even got an offer from anybody else so they’ve gone with a deal without ever going to market properly.

Fox Sports chief executive Patrick Delany, who was reportedly left stunned by the speed of the negotiations. The current deal doesn’t expire until the end of 2017.
The Australian was told yesterday that Fox Sports did not know that a deal with Nine had been done until the NRL issued a press release on Monday, and that Delany has subsequently met with NRL chief executive Dave Smith.

The NRL is banking on Fox Sports to take up an offer to simulcast the matches being shown on Nine to help push the deal out to $1.7bn and believes they will have little choice not to as rugby league is crucial to their subscription numbers.

Fox Sports paid $530m for five exclusive matches under the previous broadcast deal but has lost considerable ground in the new one that has been signed off on with Nine.
For starters, the pay-TV network has lost its two highest-rating time slots — Saturday nights, which will now be shown on free-to-air although Fox has the option to simulcast, and Monday nights, which have been scrapped.
Under the last deal, Fox received five exclusive matches but this has been reduced to four in less than favourable time slots (they are likely to be 3pm and 5.30pm on Saturday and 2pm and 6.30pm on Sunday).
Colin Smith warned that Fox might ask for exclusive streaming rights to compensate for losing games but there was still a danger that they might not pay as much as they did for their rights last time. That would leave the NRL well short of the $1.7bn mark.
“It would be a very difficult position for Fox Sports because they’re damned if they do and they’re damned if they don’t,’’ Colin said. “They have to have rugby league because Sydney is the biggest pay-TV market in Australia by a long way.
“On the other hand, for what they now know they’ve got to buy — and in essence I’m saying they’re the only buyer — as the NRL will decide what events are going to be broadcast on pay and when, they’ve got second prize.
“Simulcast hasn’t proven to be a huge driver of subscribers, so for Fox Sports it depends on what content they’re going to get. If they’re going to get the crap content and allocated the bottom four games, they’ll price that accordingly.’’
The Australian attempted to contact Delany yesterday but was unsuccessful.
A spokeswoman said he would not comment on the deal while talks were ongoing.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...-target-in-doubt/story-fnca0von-1227479489625
 

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NRL broadcast rights: Fox snub puts cash target in doubt

The media adviser who worked with the NRL on the previous broadcast rights deal has warned that the decision to sign a new agreement with the Nine Network, blindsiding Fox Sports, has put at risk the code?s hopes of an expected $1.7 billion payday.


Colin Smith, said yesterday Fox Sports had been disrespected and left with ?crap content?.
?You can?t say this is entirely respectful of them, being a long-term broadcaster, by the NRL,??

It?s a massive gamble. As I understand it, they hadn?t even got an offer from anybody else so they?ve gone with a deal without ever going to market properly.

Fox Sports chief executive Patrick Delany, who was reportedly left stunned by the speed of the negotiations. The current deal doesn?t expire until the end of 2017.
The Australian was told yesterday that Fox Sports did not know that a deal with Nine had been done until the NRL issued a press release on Monday, and that Delany has subsequently met with NRL chief executive Dave Smith.

The NRL is banking on Fox Sports to take up an offer to simulcast the matches being shown on Nine to help push the deal out to $1.7bn and believes they will have little choice not to as rugby league is crucial to their subscription numbers.

Fox Sports paid $530m for five exclusive matches under the previous broadcast deal but has lost considerable ground in the new one that has been signed off on with Nine.
For starters, the pay-TV network has lost its two highest-rating time slots ? Saturday nights, which will now be shown on free-to-air although Fox has the option to simulcast, and Monday nights, which have been scrapped.
Under the last deal, Fox received five exclusive matches but this has been reduced to four in less than favourable time slots (they are likely to be 3pm and 5.30pm on Saturday and 2pm and 6.30pm on Sunday).
Colin Smith warned that Fox might ask for exclusive streaming rights to compensate for losing games but there was still a danger that they might not pay as much as they did for their rights last time. That would leave the NRL well short of the $1.7bn mark.
?It would be a very difficult position for Fox Sports because they?re damned if they do and they?re damned if they don?t,?? Colin said. ?They have to have rugby league because Sydney is the biggest pay-TV market in Australia by a long way.
?On the other hand, for what they now know they?ve got to buy ? and in essence I?m saying they?re the only buyer ? as the NRL will decide what events are going to be broadcast on pay and when, they?ve got second prize.
?Simulcast hasn?t proven to be a huge driver of subscribers, so for Fox Sports it depends on what content they?re going to get. If they?re going to get the crap content and allocated the bottom four games, they?ll price that accordingly.??
The Australian attempted to contact Delany yesterday but was unsuccessful.
A spokeswoman said he would not comment on the deal while talks were ongoing.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...-target-in-doubt/story-fnca0von-1227479489625
rent-a-quote! Was waiting for Colin Smith to pop out again.
 

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I know its far fetched but what if Rupert decides he aint happy with the 4 games left which are the dregs in bad timeslots for him offers the 12 nrl clubs 20 mill a season to join a break away comp from 2018.
The only Night time slot Fox will have is 5pm sat and they have tried the 6pm Sun slot before it failed with the ratings. The NRL took the best fox slots out of the deal (Sat 7:30pm Mon 7pm)

Would never happen, Gus, Politis & Dib hate News Corp much more than they dislike the way the NRL is run.
 

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Surprised they didn't go to market if true? Maybe they thought the Nine offer couldn't be bettered? Going to need a good sales pitch from the NRL to get Fox to stump up $500mill plus imo. Loss of Super Saturday exclusivity and Monday night is massive for them.
 

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Surprised they didn't go to market if true? Maybe they thought the Nine offer couldn't be bettered? Going to need a good sales pitch from the NRL to get Fox to stump up $500mill plus imo. Loss of Super Saturday exclusivity and Monday night is massive for them.

they would have struggled to get what they have from 9 going to tender, it's an unbelievable number, that is no doubt inclusive of a premium for not going to tender. Most analysts had only expected $600-700m for FTA.

There's still plenty left on the bone for fox, 8 live games HD, ad free, those watching super saturday will unlikely change to FTA for the 7.30 game. Every week there's bound to be blockbuster games on fox, the draw can't predict form, lik with carlton destroying the AFL on Friday nights. The trick for fox is distinguishing itself from FTA, they do that by selling it as a package with an NRL channel, but let's face it, it's always been a premium service, if people are paying it now they will still pay it in two years time for 8 games.
 
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andrew057

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Surprised they didn't go to market if true? Maybe they thought the Nine offer couldn't be bettered? Going to need a good sales pitch from the NRL to get Fox to stump up $500mill plus imo. Loss of Super Saturday exclusivity and Monday night is massive for them.

Other way around. Fox will need to make a good offer to the NRL.

It would be more massive if Fox lost all their games, not just the exclusivity if certain time slots.
 

flippikat

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I know its far fetched but what if Rupert decides he aint happy with the 4 games left which are the dregs in bad timeslots for him offers the 12 nrl clubs 20 mill a season to join a break away comp from 2018.
The only Night time slot Fox will have is 5pm sat and they have tried the 6pm Sun slot before it failed with the ratings. The NRL took the best fox slots out of the deal (Sat 7:30pm Mon 7pm)

Another thought that occurs to me is that Rupert could put shed loads of money into rugby union (Super Rugby AND the Australian Championship that follows it) and try to undermine RL by headhunting talent to the other code.
 

Brutus

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Fox have been given RL for a bargain in the past.

This is their time to pay up otherwise Netflix here we come.
 
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