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hindy111

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Are people aware that a skilltester where pick up those soft toys with a claw are not skillfull at all.
They are programmed and the claw has a tension setting so perhaps 9/10 will just apply the slightest of pressure making it impossible to pick up anything. Every now and then it will apply MAX pressure and clam on.

Just if people where wondering how they work.
 

Eelementary

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Do you seriously believe that every one of them is like that? If so, why do you think that no 'decent' people ever have a go? I don't think it is quite that simple. There have been pollies on either side (Fred Chaney, Michael Lavarch, Petro Georgiou for example) who I would rate as very decent and capable people. Is it a cushy job? Well...I guess it could be if you remain a back-bencher in a safe seat and do the absolute minimum (e.g. the bloke who was my local member on the North Coast for 15 years). But I've met several MPs who work a lot harder and longer than the average Joe.

Politicians - at least, successful ones - are easily malleable; while there are undoubtedly some good, reliable politicians around, to truly succeed in this profession, one must be callous, cold, calculating, and selfish.

I know several politicians personally, at varying levels of government, and sudguce it to say that, yes - I believe it is that simple.

They all start out with sunshine, lollipops, and good intentions in their eyes, but soon they lose their way, either because:

(1) they go into self-preservation mode, to save their own careers; or

(2) they get pressured by party members into changing.

Call it a simplistic view oid you wish, but I've met too many politicians at council, State, and Federal level, who have all behaved in the same way, to see it any differently.

The good eggs rarely last.
 

Eelementary

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Politicians - at least, successful ones - are easily malleable; while there are undoubtedly some good, reliable politicians around, to truly succeed in this profession, one must be callous, cold, calculating, and selfish.

I know several politicians personally, at varying levels of government, and sudguce it to say that, yes - I believe it is that simple.

They all start out with sunshine, lollipops, and good intentions in their eyes, but soon they lose their way, either because:

(1) they go into self-preservation mode, to save their own careers; or

(2) they get pressured by party members into changing.

Call it a simplistic view oid you wish, but I've met too many politicians at council, State, and Federal level, who have all behaved in the same way, to see it any differently.

The good eggs rarely last.

I'll tell you a story about politicians, and why I hate them so much.

Please note that I am no expert in politics, or the legal system, and so I can only go off what I know/was told by people who know better than I do.

About ten years ago, my ill mother asked around to get some advice regarding accessing her superannuation a little earlier than planned; she was in her mid-fifties, very unwell, and willing to work (but nobody would hire her due to her health).

She spoke to our local council, who advised that she see a lawyer, so that he could draft a letter, outlining why she needed to access her super early.

And it was necessary- the disability pension did not cover the mortgage payments, and we faced being kicked to the streets, unless she could access her super.

The lawyer drafted the letter, sent a copy to the local council person, and sent another copy to the superannuation firm.

The locally-elected MP then gets in touch with my mum, promising he will fight for justice, and help us every step of the way.

The superannuation firm says no, and mum's lawyer advises to go to court, because he believes there is strong ground for her to access her super early.

Local MP says he is happy to testify in court on mum's behalf.

Mum's lawyer spends week preparing the guy to take the stand.

The court day comes...and the MP does a 180; he totally backflips on his promise. He stonewalls. He claims the law says you access your super at 65, clear as day. He says he doesn't know why we are in court.

Mum's lawyer put up a very good fight after being blindsided, but was ultimately not successful.

Mum was fuming. She asked this dude why he changed his mind, seemingly at the flip of a switch, with so much at stake, and no prior warning.

The MP refuses to answer, and keeps deflecting.

My mum's lawyer tries to get answers, to no avail.

Eventually, under the threat of a lawsuit, the MP admits to the lawyer that he changed his mind due to a conflict of interest; he was, evidently, quite chummy with a very senior executive at the superannuation firm, and that executive applied pressure to the MP to cut the deal off.

Long story short, the arsehole promised to help, and then backpedaled when we needed him most, because it wasn't in his best interests to help us.

We nearly lost the house, the stress almost killed my mother, and this merkinball escaped any serious scrutiny over his behaviour; we lodged an official complaint, which was thrown out due to lack of evidence.

He's a f**king scumbag, imo.
 

Gronk

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I'll tell you a story about politicians, and why I hate them so much.

Please note that I am no expert in politics, or the legal system, and so I can only go off what I know/was told by people who know better than I do.

About ten years ago, my ill mother asked around to get some advice regarding accessing her superannuation a little earlier than planned; she was in her mid-fifties, very unwell, and willing to work (but nobody would hire her due to her health).

She spoke to our local council, who advised that she see a lawyer, so that he could draft a letter, outlining why she needed to access her super early.

And it was necessary- the disability pension did not cover the mortgage payments, and we faced being kicked to the streets, unless she could access her super.

The lawyer drafted the letter, sent a copy to the local council person, and sent another copy to the superannuation firm.

The locally-elected MP then gets in touch with my mum, promising he will fight for justice, and help us every step of the way.

The superannuation firm says no, and mum's lawyer advises to go to court, because he believes there is strong ground for her to access her super early.

Local MP says he is happy to testify in court on mum's behalf.

Mum's lawyer spends week preparing the guy to take the stand.

The court day comes...and the MP does a 180; he totally backflips on his promise. He stonewalls. He claims the law says you access your super at 65, clear as day. He says he doesn't know why we are in court.

Mum's lawyer put up a very good fight after being blindsided, but was ultimately not successful.

Mum was fuming. She asked this dude why he changed his mind, seemingly at the flip of a switch, with so much at stake, and no prior warning.

The MP refuses to answer, and keeps deflecting.

My mum's lawyer tries to get answers, to no avail.

Eventually, under the threat of a lawsuit, the MP admits to the lawyer that he changed his mind due to a conflict of interest; he was, evidently, quite chummy with a very senior executive at the superannuation firm, and that executive applied pressure to the MP to cut the deal off.

Long story short, the arsehole promised to help, and then backpedaled when we needed him most, because it wasn't in his best interests to help us.

We nearly lost the house, the stress almost killed my mother, and this merkinball escaped any serious scrutiny over his behaviour; we lodged an official complaint, which was thrown out due to lack of evidence.

He's a f**king scumbag, imo.

What a merkin. :mad:
 

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Are people aware that a skilltester where pick up those soft toys with a claw are not skillfull at all.
They are programmed and the claw has a tension setting so perhaps 9/10 will just apply the slightest of pressure making it impossible to pick up anything. Every now and then it will apply MAX pressure and clam on.

Just if people where wondering how they work.
How many toys did you miss out on?
 

strider

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Yeah the LNP definitely murdered themselves .... were prob pushing shit uphill anyway as they seemed to get little done ... i think Malcolm proved to be a massive dud - prob cos was wasnt aligned with most his party

I think the rise of independents has f**ked things up a bit of late ... they get too much power when the 2 main players are closely split
 

I bleed blue & gold

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I'll tell you a story about politicians, and why I hate them so much.

Please note that I am no expert in politics, or the legal system, and so I can only go off what I know/was told by people who know better than I do.

About ten years ago, my ill mother asked around to get some advice regarding accessing her superannuation a little earlier than planned; she was in her mid-fifties, very unwell, and willing to work (but nobody would hire her due to her health).

She spoke to our local council, who advised that she see a lawyer, so that he could draft a letter, outlining why she needed to access her super early.

And it was necessary- the disability pension did not cover the mortgage payments, and we faced being kicked to the streets, unless she could access her super.

The lawyer drafted the letter, sent a copy to the local council person, and sent another copy to the superannuation firm.

The locally-elected MP then gets in touch with my mum, promising he will fight for justice, and help us every step of the way.

The superannuation firm says no, and mum's lawyer advises to go to court, because he believes there is strong ground for her to access her super early.

Local MP says he is happy to testify in court on mum's behalf.

Mum's lawyer spends week preparing the guy to take the stand.

The court day comes...and the MP does a 180; he totally backflips on his promise. He stonewalls. He claims the law says you access your super at 65, clear as day. He says he doesn't know why we are in court.

Mum's lawyer put up a very good fight after being blindsided, but was ultimately not successful.

Mum was fuming. She asked this dude why he changed his mind, seemingly at the flip of a switch, with so much at stake, and no prior warning.

The MP refuses to answer, and keeps deflecting.

My mum's lawyer tries to get answers, to no avail.

Eventually, under the threat of a lawsuit, the MP admits to the lawyer that he changed his mind due to a conflict of interest; he was, evidently, quite chummy with a very senior executive at the superannuation firm, and that executive applied pressure to the MP to cut the deal off.

Long story short, the arsehole promised to help, and then backpedaled when we needed him most, because it wasn't in his best interests to help us.

We nearly lost the house, the stress almost killed my mother, and this merkinball escaped any serious scrutiny over his behaviour; we lodged an official complaint, which was thrown out due to lack of evidence.

He's a f**king scumbag, imo.
What a grub. Sorry to hear that, Ele.
 

84 Baby

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I'll tell you a story about politicians, and why I hate them so much.

Please note that I am no expert in politics, or the legal system, and so I can only go off what I know/was told by people who know better than I do.

About ten years ago, my ill mother asked around to get some advice regarding accessing her superannuation a little earlier than planned; she was in her mid-fifties, very unwell, and willing to work (but nobody would hire her due to her health).

She spoke to our local council, who advised that she see a lawyer, so that he could draft a letter, outlining why she needed to access her super early.

And it was necessary- the disability pension did not cover the mortgage payments, and we faced being kicked to the streets, unless she could access her super.

The lawyer drafted the letter, sent a copy to the local council person, and sent another copy to the superannuation firm.

The locally-elected MP then gets in touch with my mum, promising he will fight for justice, and help us every step of the way.

The superannuation firm says no, and mum's lawyer advises to go to court, because he believes there is strong ground for her to access her super early.

Local MP says he is happy to testify in court on mum's behalf.

Mum's lawyer spends week preparing the guy to take the stand.

The court day comes...and the MP does a 180; he totally backflips on his promise. He stonewalls. He claims the law says you access your super at 65, clear as day. He says he doesn't know why we are in court.

Mum's lawyer put up a very good fight after being blindsided, but was ultimately not successful.

Mum was fuming. She asked this dude why he changed his mind, seemingly at the flip of a switch, with so much at stake, and no prior warning.

The MP refuses to answer, and keeps deflecting.

My mum's lawyer tries to get answers, to no avail.

Eventually, under the threat of a lawsuit, the MP admits to the lawyer that he changed his mind due to a conflict of interest; he was, evidently, quite chummy with a very senior executive at the superannuation firm, and that executive applied pressure to the MP to cut the deal off.

Long story short, the arsehole promised to help, and then backpedaled when we needed him most, because it wasn't in his best interests to help us.

We nearly lost the house, the stress almost killed my mother, and this merkinball escaped any serious scrutiny over his behaviour; we lodged an official complaint, which was thrown out due to lack of evidence.

He's a f**king scumbag, imo.
Name & shame!

But he really f**ked you over because early access to super is really strict, even though it sounds simple. Your best bet would've been access on compassionate grounds if you could show, but for early access, you would lose house, or for financial hardship if she was on government pension for 6 continuous months prior.
Early access for medical reasons are actually really complicated.
Temporary incapacity only allows access to insurance payout component.
Permanent incapacity would be difficult to argue if your mother was still trying to work.
And terminal condition access.... well they allow you full tax free access if you are certified to die within 2 years. Except the certification process, getting the super fund to agree, the funds admin process and actually receiving the money is so strenuously difficult, that I have no cases where the person has died in the interim... And then you basically have to start the whole process again with a death benefit
 

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I'll tell you a story about politicians, and why I hate them so much.

Please note that I am no expert in politics, or the legal system, and so I can only go off what I know/was told by people who know better than I do.

About ten years ago, my ill mother asked around to get some advice regarding accessing her superannuation a little earlier than planned; she was in her mid-fifties, very unwell, and willing to work (but nobody would hire her due to her health).

She spoke to our local council, who advised that she see a lawyer, so that he could draft a letter, outlining why she needed to access her super early.

And it was necessary- the disability pension did not cover the mortgage payments, and we faced being kicked to the streets, unless she could access her super.

The lawyer drafted the letter, sent a copy to the local council person, and sent another copy to the superannuation firm.

The locally-elected MP then gets in touch with my mum, promising he will fight for justice, and help us every step of the way.

The superannuation firm says no, and mum's lawyer advises to go to court, because he believes there is strong ground for her to access her super early.

Local MP says he is happy to testify in court on mum's behalf.

Mum's lawyer spends week preparing the guy to take the stand.

The court day comes...and the MP does a 180; he totally backflips on his promise. He stonewalls. He claims the law says you access your super at 65, clear as day. He says he doesn't know why we are in court.

Mum's lawyer put up a very good fight after being blindsided, but was ultimately not successful.

Mum was fuming. She asked this dude why he changed his mind, seemingly at the flip of a switch, with so much at stake, and no prior warning.

The MP refuses to answer, and keeps deflecting.

My mum's lawyer tries to get answers, to no avail.

Eventually, under the threat of a lawsuit, the MP admits to the lawyer that he changed his mind due to a conflict of interest; he was, evidently, quite chummy with a very senior executive at the superannuation firm, and that executive applied pressure to the MP to cut the deal off.

Long story short, the arsehole promised to help, and then backpedaled when we needed him most, because it wasn't in his best interests to help us.

We nearly lost the house, the stress almost killed my mother, and this merkinball escaped any serious scrutiny over his behaviour; we lodged an official complaint, which was thrown out due to lack of evidence.

He's a f**king scumbag, imo.
Jesus... You hear stories like this now and then and you wonder if they're just hearsay or urban myths... Goes to show it can and does happen. Pricks
 

Dibs

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Are people aware that a skilltester where pick up those soft toys with a claw are not skillfull at all.
They are programmed and the claw has a tension setting so perhaps 9/10 will just apply the slightest of pressure making it impossible to pick up anything. Every now and then it will apply MAX pressure and clam on.

Just if people where wondering how they work.
I’ve seen a bloke win on those things almost at will
 

hineyrulz

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I'll tell you a story about politicians, and why I hate them so much.

Please note that I am no expert in politics, or the legal system, and so I can only go off what I know/was told by people who know better than I do.

About ten years ago, my ill mother asked around to get some advice regarding accessing her superannuation a little earlier than planned; she was in her mid-fifties, very unwell, and willing to work (but nobody would hire her due to her health).

She spoke to our local council, who advised that she see a lawyer, so that he could draft a letter, outlining why she needed to access her super early.

And it was necessary- the disability pension did not cover the mortgage payments, and we faced being kicked to the streets, unless she could access her super.

The lawyer drafted the letter, sent a copy to the local council person, and sent another copy to the superannuation firm.

The locally-elected MP then gets in touch with my mum, promising he will fight for justice, and help us every step of the way.

The superannuation firm says no, and mum's lawyer advises to go to court, because he believes there is strong ground for her to access her super early.

Local MP says he is happy to testify in court on mum's behalf.

Mum's lawyer spends week preparing the guy to take the stand.

The court day comes...and the MP does a 180; he totally backflips on his promise. He stonewalls. He claims the law says you access your super at 65, clear as day. He says he doesn't know why we are in court.

Mum's lawyer put up a very good fight after being blindsided, but was ultimately not successful.

Mum was fuming. She asked this dude why he changed his mind, seemingly at the flip of a switch, with so much at stake, and no prior warning.

The MP refuses to answer, and keeps deflecting.

My mum's lawyer tries to get answers, to no avail.

Eventually, under the threat of a lawsuit, the MP admits to the lawyer that he changed his mind due to a conflict of interest; he was, evidently, quite chummy with a very senior executive at the superannuation firm, and that executive applied pressure to the MP to cut the deal off.

Long story short, the arsehole promised to help, and then backpedaled when we needed him most, because it wasn't in his best interests to help us.

We nearly lost the house, the stress almost killed my mother, and this merkinball escaped any serious scrutiny over his behaviour; we lodged an official complaint, which was thrown out due to lack of evidence.

He's a f**king scumbag, imo.
What an absolute lowlife piece of shit.
 

SDM

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Kinda sadly I'm in a seat where my vote probably does matter and yet somehow don't have an non-aligned (or even an aligned) candidate worth a damn.

So much so that a couple of elections back, this guy almost won


Its not that he almost won, he would have won by plenty before that interview went to air. He wasn't sighted again after that day, even the volunteers outside the polling booths were hanging their heads in shame.
 

SDM

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Did you learn all this at skill testers anonymous? You are the only f**kwit ever who lost their caravan from a crippling claw machine addiction.
 

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