Non Footy Chat Thread II

[the phantom menace]

I actually half agree with you here. I would rather have stronger state based schooling but the horse has bolted and it’s undeniable it’s still saves the government money by funding private/religious schools. Problem is if children go to state schools the majority should be able to determine what is taught, not the minority.

Sure, there's a government/budgetry saving that would take a very principled government to try and wind back to equalise opportunities (as they should).

As for majority deciding on curriculum in government schools, teaching the relevant school stuff is what the teachers are trained for (and do). Families should be responsible for passing on any chosen religious beliefs etc, and there's plenty of non-school time for doing that, individually or in group settings (e.g. Sunday school, weekly church attendance etc)

 

[Avenger]

Sure, there's a government/budgetry saving that would take a very principled government to try and wind back to equalise opportunities (as they should).

As for majority deciding on curriculum in government schools, teaching the relevant school stuff is what the teachers are trained for (and do). Families should be responsible for passing on any chosen religious beliefs etc, and there's plenty of non-school time for doing that, individually or in group settings (e.g. Sunday school, weekly church attendance etc)

Parents should be able to say ‘no’ my child is not sitting through that lesson.

 

[the phantom menace]

Parents should be able to say ‘no’ my child is not sitting through that lesson.

To Maths? To English? To Science?

Our (government) primary school has an opt-in policy, to lessions covering sexual matters - which are delivered by a non-profit organisation which focuses on relationship services for parents and children.

I'm happy to let my kid be taught about men and women (and men and men, and women and women) by professional experts in the field, rather than "learn" about this stuff from historical prejudices (or the pulpit).

 

[hineyrulz]

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Will it be time then to "battle" the gays and trans and rainbow people? Who's going to save us... lol

My brother is gay, so I don’t think I’ll be battling anybody. Him and his partner think some of the rubbish going on is absolute lunacy.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Perhaps, the Irony of you literally virtue signalling in a discussion where you're pointing to the ills of virtue signalling isn't at all lost on me though, and it's funny as f**k.

Caring about your own children isn’t virtue signalling. If anything it is nepotism. Do better.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Great story this. Threehouse (band) have been trying to get exposure for ages. Have been posting their music all over and hard to get traction with live music venues now preferring doof doof DJs.

They DM Wolfmother by chance….

TikTok - Make Your Day

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Dude looks like a lady

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Oh dear, another disciple of the cult of nonsense...

Don’t minimise wokeism mate, what have you got to hide?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I reckon some fabric is getting destroyed right about now………

Happy sock?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Oh gee, we live in truly scary times... maybe we can replace anything that's destroyed with this fabric?

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We should all strive to be more like celebrities.

 

[the phantom menace]

My brother is gay, so I don’t think I’ll be battling anybody. Him and his partner think some of the rubbish going on is absolute lunacy.

What rubbish though? Pride jerseys? The school curriculum?

 

[the phantom menace]

I found this parrot on a shoulder scene piss funny, and didn't know where else to post it... action starts from 40s in.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

As I said earlier.
As we've been raised out of pverry these Minorities have been given a voice. And with social media a platform. It's great they have a voice but these silly rich white people feel guilty now and are letting these f**king ridiculous ideas run rampant. The other day I heard they want to ban red pens when marking exams. It scars kids. I mean ffs.

As I also said we are going into the unknown because we have no idea how all this shit will effect the human race and societies. Better perhaps or could be worse. Either way some things going on are f**king stupid

This is why we need conservatism to slow all this shit down. Society needs time to sort the good ideas from the shit ones.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'm happy to let my kid be taught about men and women (and men and men, and women and women) by professional experts in the field

Well this is the problem. A ‘gender expert’ or a ‘sexuality expert’ isn’t there same as an expert pilot or surgeon. If you can’t prove your expertise other than by demonstrating attendance at an institution for a number of years why should merkins believe you’re an expert?

 

[hineyrulz]

Happy sock?

Muck sock.

 

[the phantom menace]

Well this is the problem. A ‘gender expert’ or a ‘sexuality expert’ isn’t there same as an expert pilot or surgeon. If you can’t prove your expertise other than by demonstrating attendance at an institution for a number of years why should merkins believe you’re an expert?

I think demonstrating expertise through delivery of relationship services (i.e. regular counselling, dealing with people's traumas and prejudices etc) in addidtion to attending an institution is pretty much the same combo of evolving theory and practice that pilots or surgeons have. Just a different content area and setting... but having expertise in specific territory where some people in the community start to get intolerant about certain aspects?

 

[strider]

Parents should be able to say ‘no’ my child is not sitting through that lesson.

Well they have historically been able to do that ... for religion .... there were a whole bunch of kids who went to the library when it was scripture period once a week

 

[the phantom menace]

This is why we need conservatism to slow all this shit down. Society needs time to sort the good ideas from the shit ones.

Yep, giving those women folk the vote was an idea that definitely needed slowing down, ffs...

 

[hineyrulz]

What rubbish though? Pride jerseys? The school curriculum?

Pretty much everything that is going on of late, how anyone near the middle is seen as some right wing nazi.


He was telling me he was out with a group of friends recently and some ultra hip mung bean latte sipper called him a homophobe because he said he didn’t need some dopey footballer wearing a rainbow jersey to feel inclusive for the game of RL. This bloke isn’t even gay but he was telling my brother he was a homophobe for his views lol. My brother came out in the mid 90’s at a time it wasn’t so hip or cool and some arts degree imbecile had the hide to say that?? All fake virtues signalling idiots.

 

[the phantom menace]

Well they have historically been able to do that ... for religion .... there were a whole bunch of kids who went to the library when it was scripture period once a week

Scripture teachers at my high school eventually gave up - I think because they couldn't explain or answer all the questions...?

So what would have been our scripture periods (rotated during Thursday mornings) got shifted to last period Thursday afternoon for all classes, giving everyone had a standard 2.20pm early mark - praise the lord!

 

[the phantom menace]

Pretty much everything that is going on of late, how anyone near the middle is seen as some right wing nazi.

Yeah, I've met some LNP voting gay people... didn't quite understand it (gay or striaght). But imagine gay people who aren't left-leaning might be seen by others as being on the right - just like people on the right tend to think/say the ABC's centrism is loony left etc.

He was telling me he was out with a group of friends recently and some ultra hip mung bean latte sipper called him a homophobe because he said he didn’t need some dopey footballer wearing a rainbow jersey to feel inclusive for the game of RL. This bloke isn’t even gay but he was telling my brother he was a homophobe for his views lol. My brother came out in the mid 90’s at a time it wasn’t so hip or cool and some arts degree imbecile had the hide to say that?? All fake virtues signalling idiots.

Yeah, that's pretty f**ked. It's like that ridiculous pressure people (and media) put on gay celebrities to "out" themselves, Rebel Wilson most recent case.

I've known gay people over the years who didn't particularly feel any need to join in displays, mardi gras, fighting for visibility etc, and were quite content just living their lives... though I'm sure a bit of sensible equality (superannuation laws, right to marriage) is appreciated by pretty much everyone.