Non Footy Chat Thread II

[Gronk]

Timothy McVeigh was white and a terrorist. Motive determines terrorism, not skin colour.

I agree with you, but the reluctance in the USA from POTUS down to call a spade a spade is staggering.

 

[Gronk]

So was the the Vegas shooter. Wouldn't know it from the way it was reported though, which was the point Gronk was making.

It seems in America the word terrorism only applies to people of an Islamic persuasion these days. White people are "lone wolves" and "mentally unwell"

Apart from 9/11 more people have died/injured being shot by anti-abortion (planned parenthood) protesters than by islamic terrorists.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

My point is that when the white supremacist merkin ran into people in Charlottesville, the authorities (incl POTUS) were not prepared to call it terrorism. You can throw in the Las Vegas mass shooter f**ker too.

It would have been a different story if he was brown.

That's correct re the Charlottsville bloke. But in what sense is the LV shooter a terrorist? He's certainly a mass murderer....but unless I've missed something (which is possible) we don't know what his motives were.

 

[strider]

That's correct re the Charlottsville bloke. But in what sense is the LV shooter a terrorist? He's certainly a mass murderer....but unless I've missed something (which is possible) we don't know what his motives were.

Killing n causing terror

 

[Gary Gutful]

Killing n causing terror

Hence the term...Sniper.

 

[Gronk]

That's correct re the Charlottsville bloke. But in what sense is the LV shooter a terrorist? He's certainly a mass murderer....but unless I've missed something (which is possible) we don't know what his motives were.

Yes a motive needs to be applied to a crime before a mass shooter turns from a lone wolf or disturbed individual to terrorist BUT my point was if Stephen Paddock's name was Abdulaziz Al Saud also without a motive, I propose that POTUS down to Fox News would still be talking about the 3 October terrorism event. Even without established evidence of motive, they would still be suggesting that the merkin "must" have been radicalized.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Apart from 9/11 more people have died/injured being shot by anti-abortion (planned parenthood) protesters than by islamic terrorists.

Bourgeoise arseholes love quoting the stats since September 11. The period since September 10 is only a day longer, merkin.

Do you think those numbers would be the same if such efforts hadn't been made to prevent another World Trade Centre attack?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So was the the Vegas shooter. Wouldn't know it from the way it was reported though, which was the point Gronk was making.

Was the Vegas shooter trying to influence an audience or just kill?

It seems in America the word terrorism only applies to people of an Islamic persuasion these days. White people are "lone wolves" and "mentally unwell"

Except that's bullshit. Timothy McVeigh was white and also convicted of terrorism.

Muslim killers screaming Allahu Akbar are playing to an audience. That at least implies terrorism.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Apart from 9/11 more people have died/injured being shot by anti-abortion (planned parenthood) protesters than by islamic terrorists.

While I agree that constitutes terrorism, it is also a home grown ideology. Islam isn't, at least in America. Being terrorised by outsiders is clearly less acceptable to many than being terrorised by your own.

 

[Bazal]

Except that's bullshit. Timothy McVeigh was white and also convicted of terrorism.
.

I presume you missed the words "these days"....I'm sure you know the year McVeigh was convicted?

If it's bullshit I'm certain you can find a more recent example....

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes a motive needs to be applied to a crime before a mass shooter turns from a lone wolf or disturbed individual to terrorist BUT my point was if Stephen Paddock's name was Abdulaziz Al Saud also without a motive, I propose that POTUS down to Fox News would still be talking about the 3 October terrorism event. Even without established evidence of motive, they would still be suggesting that the merkin "must" have been radicalized.

It would be a fair assessment.

 

[Gronk]

Bourgeoise arseholes love quoting the stats since September 11. The period since September 10 is only a day longer, merkin.

Do you think those numbers would be the same if such efforts hadn't been made to prevent another World Trade Centre attack?

9/11 was conducted by the Deep State and those Awan Brothers. Try and keep up.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I presume you missed the words "these days"....I'm sure you know the year McVeigh was convicted?

If it's bullshit I'm certain you can find a more recent example....

There hasn't been a more recent example. Terrorism these days is seen as fundamentally anti-American.

 

[Gronk]

It would be a fair assessment.

Abdulaziz Al Saud is the former King of Saudi Arabia who died in 1953. Derp.

 

[Bazal]

While I agree that constitutes terrorism, it is also a home grown ideology. Islam isn't, at least in America. Being terrorised by outsiders is clearly less acceptable to many than being terrorised by your own.

I agree, it is blatant xenophobia. America, especially white America, is infested with it.

 

[Bazal]

There hasn't been a more recent example. Terrorism these days is seen as fundamentally anti-American.

So there hasn't been a white terrorist since McVeigh? What makes you say that?

 

[Gronk]

So there hasn't been a white terrorist since McVeigh? What makes you say that?

In 0.5 seconds google finds.

6 Aug 2017

The explosion at around 5am local time (09:00 GMT) at the Dar Al Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington, Minnesota, caused damage but did not cause any casualties.

Worshippers had been preparing for the dawn prayer when the attack happened.

There were between 15 and 20 people inside the building at the time, according to Star Tribune, a local newspaper.

14 Aug 2016

Following the shooting of a New York City mosque leader and an associate, people are offering to accompany Muslims to and from the mosque so they can pray in safety.

Imam Maulama Akonjee, 55, and his associate Thara Uddin, 64, were fatally shot in the back of the head as they left Al-Furqan Jame Masjid in Queens on Saturday.

 

[hindy111]

When I'll be there is will be -5 degrees and snowing, so hopefully all the terrorists CBFd running amok until spring.

Id cancel the trip. Whats in New york to see.
Come around m ine and we can have a few beers, go for a feed. You be much safer.

 

[hindy111]

So was the the Vegas shooter. Wouldn't know it from the way it was reported though, which was the point Gronk was making.

It seems in America the word terrorism only applies to people of an Islamic persuasion these days. White people are "lone wolves" and "mentally unwell"

Well they are nut job these isolated white guy ones and far worse.

The islamic actually do not think what they are doing is bad do they?

 

[hindy111]

9/11 was conducted by the Deep State and those Awan Brothers. Try and keep up.

Looks a little like trent barrett on the right