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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Poupou Escobar

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And as I have already pointed out, they are persecuted in a different way based on years and years of entrenched xenophobia so the point is still irrelevant.
It is very relevant. If they had form for politically motivated violence they would be called terrorists. Instead Mexican criminals in the US are mostly prosecuted for violent crimes linked to drugs and sex, not politics.
When was the last act of violence perpetrated by a Mexican that qualifies for this discussion?
I five second Google search returns this from last year:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ramona-hate-crime-20160707-snap-story,amp.html

But there is constant gang violence in the States, some of it committed by Mexicans. The difference is they generally limit their victims to other minorities so they aren't seen to be targeting the Great Satan.
What you think doesn't matter.
What everyone thinks matters, because this is a discussion about public opinion. If it was a legal discussion none of us would get a say.
The definition of terrorism qualifies both acts as the same.
Whose definition?
Yet they are reported differently. That's the point, and the one you've deliberately ignored. Both are acts of terrorism. One is reported as such immediately, the other is played off.
According to that definition Antifa is also a terrorist organisation. BLM have allegedly committed terrorism as well, by that measure. Unless you think they have then you agree with me that the definition is too broad.
Lol. It's nothing to do with moral high ground. The label matters because it's simply true. Call a spade a spade, in your own words. Plus it helps perpetuate the xenophobic attitudes that it comes from.
Without xenophobia you wouldn't be here.
 

Bazal

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It is very relevant. If they had form for politically motivated violence they would be called terrorists. Instead Mexican criminals in the US are mostly prosecuted for violent crimes linked to drugs and sex, not politics.
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Which is not terrorism.

You're usually less shit than this, tbh.
 

ImTheMan

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I remember when great users used to talk about football here. Marcus Aurelius would tell you that everything your hear is an opinion not a fact. A perspective and not the truth. Only boys presume to have eaten in the garden of eden without deviating an inch from an ideology.

*Sips JD*
Cheers
 

ImTheMan

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I don't think he was banned. Just reached 500 posts and signed off. I assume he's back to adjust for inflation.
Loser, you are very observant and an underrated contributor to this forum. A quality human being and a man who knows how to have a good time. You can come around and hang in my corporate box whenever you want, just don't forget the whisky. Cheers
 

Gary Gutful

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and yet then you say



ironic isn't it
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Poupou Escobar

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Which is not terrorism.
My point was just that. Violence by Mexicans in America has never been politically motivated. So Americans don't call it terrorism.

The point you're missing is that the whole world has a problem with Muslims. But you're taking the opportunity to blame America.
You're usually less shit than this, tbh.
You're the one who is now cherry picking quotes from entire posts. I'll take the silence on the rest as point conceded.
 

Bazal

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Well in the interest of setting you straight you'd be better off taking it as a point ignored. After all, if your argument is comparing Mexican gang violence to domestic or Islamic terrorism, and if what you get from that is that I'm "blaming America", then this is already rather deep into the territory where you inevitably drag all discussions and I half expect you to suddenly shout "change places"
 

Poupou Escobar

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Well in the interest of setting you straight you'd be better off taking it as a point ignored. After all, if your argument is comparing Mexican gang violence to domestic or Islamic terrorism, and if what you get from that is that I'm "blaming America", then this is already rather deep into the territory where you inevitably drag all discussions and I half expect you to suddenly shout "change places"
So you agree that violence conducted by political organisations Antifa and BLM isn't necessarily terrorism? Or are you just really desperate to stick the boot into Trump voters?
 
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Is The Dude gonna get his f**ken rug back or not? And will that fat merkin ever shut about Vietnam?

Maybe Blades of Glory is on next. That'll be fun.
 

Bazal

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So you agree that violence conducted by political organisations Antifa and BLM isn't necessarily terrorism? Or are you just really desperate to stick the boot into Trump voters?

Well that's almost as good as shouting change places.

I couldn't give a f**k about Trump voters. I've not even mentioned them. Nor have I mentioned petty clashes between dickheads on either side of the political shit fight that is America right now. If members of either of those organisations have run their car into right wing protesters as in Charlottesville then yes, they have also committed terrorism.

I'm sure you'll have so sufficiently hatcheted the point that this will be a completely different discussion and you can feel like a winner shortly.
 

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