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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Gronk

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So it seems that the Alt-right merkin hunted Sam down, rather than visa versa.

 

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You might recall that Pauline pines for the old days

"She fondly recalled a time when Greeks and Italians were called “Mediterranean Descendants” and they “simply got on with it"."

http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/articl...racist-she-could-try-not-saying-racist-things

Can I just say that I would not be surprised if Sam did place himself in a position where a goon might approach him. He has been on the publicity trail for some time after he "reinvented" himself after the China broohaha.

It is coming out now that the goon is an aggressive member of the United Patriots Front.


Or maybe I am just a cynic and he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Good on him. If Sam’s moral highground is founded on the claim that there are racists happy to harass him in public then he certainly proved it here, stunt or otherwise. It probably also takes some balls to go and find people who hate you, even in a public bar.

Mission accomplished Sam. With victimhood comes sympathy.
 

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Apparently Daystari was there at the pub for a promotional speech/talk publicising his recently released book. Not sure he has placed himself in any position that warranted that vitriolic, disgraceful and intimidating verbal attack.
Nobody said it was warranted. Just the implication that he benefitted from being attacked more than he suffered. Politicians all have thick skins, even when they pretend they don’t. Dastyari wouldn’t give a f**k about those idiots. He’s a well paid politician and they’re f**king nobodies.
 

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If they didn’t have thick skins they wouldn’t put themselves out there for criticism. People complain about the money pollies get but it’s a job that would crush normal people.
 
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If they didn’t have thick skins they wouldn’t put themselves out there for criticism. People complain about the money pollies get but it’s a job that would crush normal people.

You put yourself out there, and you know you are going to cop a lot more public criticism than the average Joe, and that you'll lose most of your privacy etc. You aren't consenting to be racially abused (even if you expect it).
 

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People complain about the money pollies get

Politicians get paid peanuts compared to what they could earn in the private sector. Turnbull is on $500k and has 10x the stress that a CEO of a ASX200 company has who would get paid $1.5-2M minimum.
 

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You put yourself out there, and you know you are going to cop a lot more public criticism than the average Joe, and that you'll lose most of your privacy etc. You aren't consenting to be racially abused (even if you expect it).
Is racial abuse materially any different to any other personal abuse? The only difference is that you have recourse to legal revenge.

I’d rather be abused for my ethnicity than for my moustache or my fat guts. Especially if the abuse was caught on video.
 

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Politicians get paid peanuts compared to what they could earn in the private sector. Turnbull is on $500k and has 10x the stress that a CEO of a ASX200 company has who would get paid $1.5-2M minimum.
That’s right. It’s why the best people don’t get into politics. It’s not worth it for anyone motivated by money, and if you’ve got kids you always need more money.
 
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I'd be leaving the IPA for a good couple of months before trying. You'll find the Coopers won't be cloudy at all after 6 weeks
The bottled one already has a fair amount of sediment on the bottom. I doubt I've got the patience to wait six weeks though. I can always make more. The IPA I'll give a fair chance as it cost roughly double the other one and I'm curious to see how good it can get. Still fermenting nicely after five days.
 

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Is racial abuse materially any different to any other personal abuse? The only difference is that you have recourse to legal revenge.

I’d rather be abused for my ethnicity than for my moustache or my fat guts. Especially if the abuse was caught on video.

How would go if Abbott & Co change 18(c) like they want to ?

Changes to the Racial Discrimination Act being proposed are to remove the words offend”, “insult” and “humiliate” and replace them with the word harass”.

The changes also add a "reasonable person” test, which would mean any discriminatory comments would have to be offensive to a reasonable person.
 
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Is racial abuse materially any different to any other personal abuse? The only difference is that you have recourse to legal revenge.

I’d rather be abused for my ethnicity than for my moustache or my fat guts. Especially if the abuse was caught on video.

Racial abuse may well be very different to other abuse, particularly if you (the recipient of the abuse) are the 'outsider' / minority in a society or group. Being in the overwhelming majority and copping a bit of racial abuse isn't good, but the broader impact on the recipient is not likely to be as great.
 

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Racial abuse may well be very different to other abuse, particularly if you (the recipient of the abuse) are the 'outsider' / minority in a society or group. Being in the overwhelming majority and copping a bit of racial abuse isn't good, but the broader impact on the recipient is not likely to be as great.
Like how men are a minority compared to women?

In which size group must the recipient of abuse be in to qualify as a minority? Global? National? Within that particular city? Or just within earshot?
 
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Like how men are a minority compared to women?

In which size group must the recipient of abuse be in to qualify as a minority? Global? National? Within that particular city? Or just within earshot?

No, obviously not minorities who comprise 49% of society.

re the size group....pretty much any of the sets that you cite, but if you are the minority in more than one of them (e.g. within earshot, and within city and within country) the effect is compounded.
 

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The bottled one already has a fair amount of sediment on the bottom. I doubt I've got the patience to wait six weeks though. I can always make more. The IPA I'll give a fair chance as it cost roughly double the other one and I'm curious to see how good it can get. Still fermenting nicely after five days.

So is the IPA 5 days in the tub or the bottle? Where are you keeping the brew? Are you doing a full 20 odd litres?

If you let it sit and not get it agitated before serving, you shouldn't get that cloudiness or too much sediment. Don't bother drinking the last 50mls or so of each bottle though, that's where your cloudiness comes from and it's mostly just yeast and doesnt makes your beer taste too good in any case.

I've got quite a few things on the go at the moment, all based around some good summer session beers.
 

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