Northern Eagles. Central Coast. Gosford

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Literally only 1 club thinks there should be another club in seq lol
this bird is cooked, firehawks ain’t happening anytime soon

Twelve clubs didn't want a second team in Brisbane, either. V'landys still added the Dolphins.

Are you sure you want a Perth-based team?

If it's a failure, which is very likely, then you'll be subjected to all sorts of ridicule from fans of clubs you've bagged over the years.

 

[Perth Red]

Twelve clubs questioned the need to expand beyond the then current 16, thats a very different situation. Only 1 of 17 clubs thinks another seq club is a good idea.

as John Cleese would say ‘this parrot is dead!’

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Twelve clubs questioned the need to expand beyond the then current 16, thats a very different situation. Only 1 of 17 clubs thinks another seq club is a good idea.

as John Cleese would say ‘this parrot is dead!’

Who will want to play for a Perth-based team?

Flying across the county every fortnight. F**k that. The clubs know it ain't a threat to them in the player market.

 

[Perth Red]

Who will want to play for a Perth-based team?

Flying across the county every fortnight. F**k that. The clubs know it ain't a threat to them in the player market.

Yeh we really struggled to sign players in the early 90’s. I can see your logic.

 

[flippikat]

Who will want to play for a Perth-based team?

Flying across the county every fortnight. F**k that. The clubs know it ain't a threat to them in the player market.

That's where scheduling comes in - I can imagine the Perth team at some stage going on "mini-tours" to (say) Sydney, then Auckland - or vice versa - then having back to back home games in Perth. Another mini-tour might be Townsville then Brisbane.

There's ways around a Perth club having to fly across-country every 2nd week.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That's where scheduling comes in - I can imagine the Perth team at some stage going on "mini-tours" to (say) Sydney, then Auckland - or vice versa - then having back to back home games in Perth. Another mini-tour might be Townsville then Brisbane.

There's ways around a Perth club having to fly across-country every 2nd week.

Don't you think it'll create logistical problems for the game?

Games scheduled in Perth at 7.30pm won't start until 11.30pm NZST. If we want to grow the game in New Zealand and the South Pacific then we shouldn't be playing games at this time.

One of the problems with Super Rugby is the conflicting time zones from NZ to Western Australia. It was even worse when South Africa was part of the competition.

It's one of the reasons why I'd rather see NZ2 and NZ3 ahead of Adelaide and Perth. At least NZ2 and NZ3 offer content to the New Zealand broadcast rights that can lead to more people watching the game and command more money from Sky NZ.

Adelaide and Perth won't provide much uptick in ratings across those two markets and will offer nothing to Sky NZ.

You'll never convince me that Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth can provide more viewers and players than NZ2 and NZ3. Polynesians are built for rugby league. It's why the fumbleball zealots make cracks about the amount of Polynesians in the NRL. They know that Polynesians are a resource rugby league can tap into for customers and players. Fumbleball will never have their support, hence the reason they're trying to increase their market share in Brisbane and Sydney.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yeh we really struggled to sign players in the early 90’s. I can see your logic.

How many marquee players from the Storm, Roosters, Panthers and Broncos will give up a potential premiership to sign with a Perth-based team that is starting from scratch?

The Dolphins had difficulty in his area because players wanted to play for less at a club that has a chance of winning a premiership. The same problem will exist for Perth. You've even brought it up by demanding the ARLC give a Perth-based team salary cap concessions. In other words, you want special privileges to give Perth an unfair advantage that was denied to the Cowboys, Titans and Crushers. Try being consistent and deal with the reality that a Perth-based team will operate under. The game isn't going to make concessions to overcome the unique hurdles that will stand in front of Perth.

 

[Perth Red]

How many marquee players from the Storm, Roosters, Panthers and Broncos will give up a potential premiership to sign with a Perth-based team that is starting from scratch?

The Dolphins had difficulty in his area because players wanted to play for less at a club that has a chance of winning a premiership. The same problem will exist for Perth. You've even brought it up by demanding the ARLC give a Perth-based team salary cap concessions. In other words, you want special privileges to give Perth an unfair advantage that was denied to the Cowboys, Titans and Crushers. Try being consistent and deal with the reality that a Perth-based team will operate under. The game isn't going to make concessions to overcome the unique hurdles that will stand in front of Perth.

Why did a number of big names move to Perth to join the reds?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Why did a number of big names move to Perth to join the reds?

Different era.

Back then the game was semi-professional and many of the Sydney teams were struggling to stay afloat.

Western Reds over spent on players from NSWRL clubs that were financially buggered. It's part of the reason they went bust and needed to be bailed out by News Ltd in 1996.

Julian O'Neil only went to the Reds because he was punted by the Broncos for all of his off-field antics.

The other recruits came from financially unstable clubs like the Dragons, Panthers, Magpies and Knights.

The NRL now covers the salary cap for all teams. Money ain't an issue any more for the Sydney clubs.

 

[flippikat]

Don't you think it'll create logistical problems for the game?

No, it won't cause logistical problems - the A-league seem to handle having an NZ team & a Perth team in their competitions, as does the NBL. The key is learning from them what works.

Games scheduled in Perth at 7.30pm won't start until 11.30pm NZST. If we want to grow the game in New Zealand and the South Pacific then we shouldn't be playing games at this time.

Easy solution then is to schedule Perth home games in timeslots that work across all markets.

4pm Perth/6pm Sydney/8pm NZ on a Sunday is a no-brainer (especially in mid-winter).. maybe even 6pm/8pm/10pm.

There's also 5.30pm Perth/7.30pm Sydney/9.30pm NZ on Saturday could be an option for home games.

Now, the 7.30 Perth (9.30 Sydney, 11.30 NZ) might be an occasional option (extra super Saturday) but it wouldn't be used for a game against an NZ club, and as it's not something that can RELIABLY be programmed, I can't see much attraction for broadcasters.

One of the problems with Super Rugby is the conflicting time zones from NZ to Western Australia. It was even worse when South Africa was part of the competition.

As I said above, there's timeslots that work for Perth home games across all 3 markets (Perth, Eastern, NZ). Plus, we don't have South Africa to contend with.

In short, this can all be planned & managed, for a good viewing outcome in all markets across Australia & NZ.

It's one of the reasons why I'd rather see NZ2 and NZ3 ahead of Adelaide and Perth. At least NZ2 and NZ3 offer content to the New Zealand broadcast rights that can lead to more people watching the game and command more money from Sky NZ.

Lol. Sky has no competition at present, and no likelihood of competition in the next rights-bidding round. Spark Sport went broke just trying to compete with Sky, and Free-to-Air channels are in a horrible financial state, downsizing (and even CLOSING) their newsrooms to try & make ends meet!

With no competitive pressure, the NRL will just get whatever Sky wanna pay - unless either some company/billionaire wants to sink a LOT of money into outbidding them, or the NRL wants to try selling direct-to-subscribers.

I don't think anyone's foolish enough to try competing with Sky for the rights - AND I don't think the NRL has appetite anytime soon to try a direct-to-customer offering in NZ.

 

[Canard]

For some reason, RL is the only professional sports competition that can't deal with different timezones, apparently

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No, it won't cause logistical problems - the A-league seem to handle having an NZ team & a Perth team in their competitions, as does the NBL. The key is learning from them what works.

How many people watch the A-League and NBL?

Easy solution then is to schedule Perth home games in timeslots that work across all markets.

4pm Perth/6pm Sydney/8pm NZ on a Sunday is a no-brainer (especially in mid-winter).. maybe even 6pm/8pm/10pm.

There's also 5.30pm Perth/7.30pm Sydney/9.30pm NZ on Saturday could be an option for home games.

Now, the 7.30 Perth (9.30 Sydney, 11.30 NZ) might be an occasional option (extra super Saturday) but it wouldn't be used for a game against an NZ club, and as it's not something that can RELIABLY be programmed, I can't see much attraction for broadcasters.

Thursday and Friday night games will never rate well in the Perth market because the games will be going up against the 6pm news. That's why it's a shit market for the broadcasters, in particular Ch9.

As I said above, there's timeslots that work for Perth home games across all 3 markets (Perth, Eastern, NZ). Plus, we don't have South Africa to contend with.

What about the South Pacific?

V'landys and Abdo have spoken about opening the game to the South Pacific. They're in a different time zone to New Zealand.

In short, this can all be planned & managed, for a good viewing outcome in all markets across Australia & NZ.

It still doesn't change the fact Perth is a dud market for the broadcasters. It's why News Ltd shut down the Reds and propped up the Storm.

Lol. Sky has no competition at present, and no likelihood of competition in the next rights-bidding round. Spark Sport went broke just trying to compete with Sky, and Free-to-Air channels are in a horrible financial state, downsizing (and even CLOSING) their newsrooms to try & make ends meet!

There's no competition in Australia, either. No one will outbid Foxtel. Ch7 won't be able to cover AwFuL and NRL. No one wants to deal with Ch10.

The extra content provided by NZ2 and NZ3 will be worth more to Sky NZ than a fortnightly game from Perth.

With no competitive pressure, the NRL will just get whatever Sky wanna pay - unless either some company/billionaire wants to sink a LOT of money into outbidding them, or the NRL wants to try selling direct-to-subscribers.

What makes you think things will be any different in Australia?

Foxtel and Ch9 won't have any competition in 2027. Not from Ch7/10. Not from streaming.

I don't think anyone's foolish enough to try competing with Sky for the rights - AND I don't think the NRL has appetite anytime soon to try a direct-to-customer offering in NZ.

Same applies with the Australian component. What we do know is Ch9 want Brisbane 3 and couldn't give a f**k about Perth. You continue to ignore this fact and pretend Perth are favourites because Perth Red wants a team.

 

[Canard]

We should only make expansion decisions that suit the highly lucrative South Pacific TV market.

 

[Perth Red]

Different era.

yeh it was, when Perth wasn’t as good a place to live lol
anyone who visits here will be more than happy to move here. Live like a king for half the price of Sydney.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

yeh it was, when Perth wasn’t as good a place to live lol
anyone who visits here will be more than happy to move here. Live like a king for half the price of Sydney.

Cost of living is definitely in Perth's favour. It's the one thing they have over Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney.

 

[Perth Red]

Cost of living is definitely in Perth's favour. It's the one thing they have over Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney.

Weather and lifestyle as well if you want to be out of the goldfish bowl.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Weather and lifestyle as well if you want to be out of the goldfish bowl.

I'll give you that. Cost of living, weather and lifestyle are definitely in Perth's favour. Hopefully the WA Gov give PRS a good upgrade.

 

[mongoose]

How many people watch the A-League and NBL?



Thursday and Friday night games will never rate well in the Perth market because the games will be going up against the 6pm news. That's why it's a shit market for the broadcasters, in particular Ch9.



What about the South Pacific?

V'landys and Abdo have spoken about opening the game to the South Pacific. They're in a different time zone to New Zealand.



It still doesn't change the fact Perth is a dud market for the broadcasters. It's why News Ltd shut down the Reds and propped up the Storm.



There's no competition in Australia, either. No one will outbid Foxtel. Ch7 won't be able to cover AwFuL and NRL. No one wants to deal with Ch10.

The extra content provided by NZ2 and NZ3 will be worth more to Sky NZ than a fortnightly game from Perth.



What makes you think things will be any different in Australia?

Foxtel and Ch9 won't have any competition in 2027. Not from Ch7/10. Not from streaming.



Same applies with the Australian component. What we do know is Ch9 want Brisbane 3 and couldn't give a f**k about Perth. You continue to ignore this fact and pretend Perth are favourites because Perth Red wants a team.

have you been emailing this stuff to all the NRL club bosses who want Perth to be team 18? they should know

 

[titoelcolombiano]

sigh, once again, Sydney and Brisbane are well serviced by current NRl clubs. Perth, Adelaide Christchurch etc have no team to get behind. If the game wants to grow it needs to go to new markets, not keep adding clubs to existing markets. I dont know how hard that can be for you to understand.

I'm all for Perth, NZ2 and even Adelaide but the NRL has shown staggering growth without new markets so that's not exactly true

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

have you been emailing this stuff to all the NRL club bosses who want Perth to be team 18? they should know

You think they'll listen to anything that isn't in their interest?