NRL 2017 TV RATINGS!

[El Diablo]

 

[Perth Red]

938k then for the Friday night fta/stv game. How's that compare to other rounds? Crowd was low so did more people in Brisbane watch on tv than usual?

 

[insert.pause]

938k then for the Friday night fta/stv game. How's that compare to other rounds? Crowd was low so did more people in Brisbane watch on tv than usual?

in 2015 938k would be one of the highest rating games of the season.

 

[colly]

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2017/05/sunday-21-may-2017.html

https://twitter.com/mediaweekaus?lang=en
Scroll down with last link to sunday NRL.


According to TV tonight we did not have a NRL game in the top 20. 5 cities
The AFL had a game, see below Ist figure national 443 k the last is Perth 145 k. The only problem this is two different games surveyed. Guess which game Perth's 145 k was added to a game that was not even showed in Perth. I understand they can time shift for ratings in WA BUT this is a con. When is it measured, Perth had games (2) on from 11.10 am in the morning through to 5.30 local Perth time. Considering that million dollar Tv advertising contracts are at stake this blatant con and boost to fumble ball cant be allowed, Perth nine should should introduce their 3PM Movie, main channel with Fatty and bank the ratings to Sunday League.
Rant over


SEVEN’S AFL: SUNDAY AFTERNOON FOOTBALL Seven Network 443,000 21,000 193,000 18,000 66,000 145,000
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/static/NSWRegNight.html
Tv guide for Perth above.
Sun TV #AFL #AFLDeesNorth Seven/7mate 298k (Syd 21k Mel 193k Bri 18k Ade 66k)

 

[Diesel]

39k for a combined population of 7 million... yeah the tsunami has hit Sydney & Brisbane/Gold Coast

 

[colly]

39k for a combined population of 7 million... yeah the tsunami has hit Sydney & Brisbane/Gold Coast

Actually it more like 8 million.
Back to my post about Perth AFL TV figures being added to game that was not shown in PERTH>


Coming this Sunday 28th may the same con will happen
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16052697&fta=1&fox=0
The above link is what Melbourne will watch, starting 3pm to 6pm Carlton v Melb
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16049780&fta=1&fox=0
The above link is what Perth will watch, starting 2.30 to 5.30 West Coast v GWS
But they will be combined ratings for Sunday top 20 shows. If Perth was not included which I say it shouldn't, the AFL does not make the rating hit it does.
Chanel Nine which from next year will pay upwards of 125 million per year should lawyer up and change this blatant bias or take advantage of it. QUE
Paul Fatty Vautin introduces the 4pm Perth time NRL sponsored Movie/Documentary , Batshit ' The demise of the great red', and book the Perth ratings numbers to east coast Sunday Football
Note for People like say Perth Red they can watch NRL on Multi Chanel on FTA

See what happen last Sunday Ratings

SEVEN’S AFL: SUNDAY AFTERNOON FOOTBALL

Seven Network 5 city 443,000 Syd 21,000 Mel 193,000 Bris 18,000 Adel 66,000 Perth 145,000

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2017/05/sunday-21-may-2017.html

 

[The Mad Hatter]

I don't know it, but does the Sunday afternoon Ch 9 game get broadcast live in to Adelaide / Darwin / Perth?

Or is it even on a 4pm their time delay?

Either way...play the NRL game on 9's main channels there and bank the ratings. What else do they put on anyway?!? At least this way, people have an option in those cities.

 

[colly]

The game (NRL) is live on Gem or Nines multi channel see link below at 1.30 pm start. (Perth time )
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/
Of course they allow time delay for ratings purposes. Maybe Perth Red can get the NRL FTA TV figures for Perth.
Their is big money on offer with ratings and so adverting rates so why should BUMble ball be allowed this distortion. Nine could put separate games one for QLD and one NSW, then that would bring the ratings past BUMble ball into the top 20. I purpose two new teams. Queensland City & Country (QLD CC) AND
NSW Country & Coast (NSW CC). These teams home games are towns of NSW and QLD. Extra game to put on Sunday BUT with tailored audiences which would be a Ratings WINNER.

 

[El Diablo]

https://twitter.com/mediaweekaus?lang=en
Scroll down with last link to sunday NRL.

why not post a link to a tweet as nobody is going to scroll through all that to find whatever you're waffling on about

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Roy masters saying today nrl rights would be 300m less if done today..

The ratings unfortunately support this view at the moment

SOO be very interesting to see with the new ratings system , hope it holds up

 

[Perth Red]

Roy masters saying today nrl rights would be 300m less if done today..

The ratings unfortunately support this view at the moment

SOO be very interesting to see with the new ratings system , hope it holds up

Why? Audience is less than 5% drop and sports content is still the biggest earners for tv channels. He isnplucking figures out of the air.

And on the digital investment, his argument is nrl contolled digital production will somehow fill a possible gap in 2023. How? How many subscribers and advertisers would nrltv have to get to cover the current fta or pay tv income? A lot more than exist I suspect.

Smith could see the risk and his answer was to put aside some of the games riches and put them into investment accounts so there was a big cushion available if things did go the wrong way. Sadly all that money has now been spent and the current nrl's answer is to spend even more on something that will in reality still have limited reach in 2023.

 

[Warriors Fever]

Roy masters saying today nrl rights would be 300m less if done today..

The ratings unfortunately support this view at the moment

SOO be very interesting to see with the new ratings system , hope it holds up

Link? or is it from offsiders
Does that mean the AFL's TV deal would be less as well, as they are on par with us in terms of ratings?

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Link? or is it from offsiders
Does that mean the AFL's TV deal would be less as well, as they are on par with us in terms of ratings?

They were on a par..

But this year has been terrible for nrl .. if you study the numbers

Arse has fallen out of FTA .. regionals has dropped due to a change of win content deals..

Fox has been ok but.. has lost the 300k + games of mnf for a mid 200k game on 6pm Friday

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Why? Audience is less than 5% drop and sports content is still the biggest earners for tv channels. He isnplucking figures out of the air.

And on the digital investment, his argument is nrl contolled digital production will somehow fill a possible gap in 2023. How? How many subscribers and advertisers would nrltv have to get to cover the current fta or pay tv income? A lot more than exist I suspect.

Smith could see the risk and his answer was to put aside some of the games riches and put them into investment accounts so there was a big cushion available if things did go the wrong way. Sadly all that money has now been spent and the current nrl's answer is to spend even more on something that will in reality still have limited reach in 2023.

TV has paid a lot more than the past and viewers are dropping.. they can't be happy

It is a symptom of struggling TV numbers as a whole though .. so Roy may have been fudging a little

Last Friday night was a ratings bloodbath for nrl

350k FTA viewers and 175k on Fox is pretty bad even without regionals

If origin 1 is up on last year.. I'll be very surprised

 

[El Diablo]

Fox has been ok but.. has lost the 300k + games of mnf

stop posting bullshit when you've already been shown you pull numbers out of your arse

 

[colly]

Actually it more like 8 million.
Back to my post about Perth AFL TV figures being added to game that was not shown in PERTH>


Coming this Sunday 28th may the same con will happen
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16052697&fta=1&fox=0
The above link is what Melbourne will watch, starting 3pm to 6pm Carlton v Melb
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16049780&fta=1&fox=0
The above link is what Perth will watch, starting 2.30 to 5.30 West Coast v GWS
But they will be combined ratings for Sunday top 20 shows. If Perth was not included which I say it shouldn't, the AFL does not make the rating hit it does.
Chanel Nine which from next year will pay upwards of 125 million per year should lawyer up and change this blatant bias or take advantage of it. QUE
Paul Fatty Vautin introduces the 4pm Perth time NRL sponsored Movie/Documentary , Batshit ' The demise of the great red', and book the Perth ratings numbers to east coast Sunday Football
Note for People like say Perth Red they can watch NRL on Multi Chanel on FTA

See what happen last Sunday Ratings

SEVEN’S AFL: SUNDAY AFTERNOON FOOTBALL

Seven Network 5 city 443,000 Syd 21,000 Mel 193,000 Bris 18,000 Adel 66,000 Perth 145,000

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2017/05/sunday-21-may-2017.html

Coming this Sunday 28th may the same con will happen?

And it did again.

Rank
Channel\Network (r) 5 City Metro Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth

Seven Network 484,000 25,000 231,000 29,000 60,000 140,000

source Number 10 rated program.
http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2017/05/sunday-28-may-2017.html

These figures are combination of multi channel , time shifted and get this 3 different games in three different markets.

This how it should be
AFL Carl v Nth Melb Metro 291.000 Melb 231,000 adel 60,000
AFL west c v GWS Metro 165,000 Perth 140,000 syd(multi channel 7mate) 25,000
AFL Col v Bris Metro 29,000 ? Melb ???? Bris 29,000

http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/static/SydneyNight.html
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16050093&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16048625&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16048625&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/static/SydneyNight.html
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16052697&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/static/SydneyNight.html
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16049780&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/static/SydneyNight.html
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16048457&fta=1&fox=0

 

[precarious]

Coming this Sunday 28th may the same con will happen?

And it did again.

Rank
Channel\Network (r) 5 City Metro Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth

Seven Network 484,000 25,000 231,000 29,000 60,000 140,000

source Number 10 rated program.
http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2017/05/sunday-28-may-2017.html

These figures are combination of multi channel , time shifted and get this 3 different games in three different markets.

This how it should be
AFL Carl v Nth Melb Metro 291.000 Melb 231,000 adel 60,000
AFL west c v GWS Metro 165,000 Perth 140,000 syd(multi channel 7mate) 25,000
AFL Col v Bris Metro 29,000 ? Melb ???? Bris 29,000

http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/static/SydneyNight.html
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16050093&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16048625&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16048625&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/static/SydneyNight.html
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16052697&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/static/SydneyNight.html
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16049780&fta=1&fox=0
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/static/SydneyNight.html
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/tv/detail.php?id=16048457&fta=1&fox=0

This seems odd from the perspective of a footy fan, but it is probably not odd from the perspective of the networks.

The industry standard is that shows with the same name can be coded together. This is why for years Channel 9 would code the two Friday Night games as something like "NRL Early" (different games into Sydney and Brisbane) and "NRL Late" (again, different games into Sydney and Brisbane).

If they didn't do it this way, then for instance the 6 o'clock "News" bulletins (with different presenters and often different stories in different cities) would have to be coded separately, which would not really be convenient for the networks and analysts looking at the numbers.

Time shifting is part of this also. Otherwise Perth "News", for example, would have to be coded differently from Sydney "News".

When shows with the same name are shown on multi-channels in some cities and a main channel in other cities, it is the network's choice whether to code the show as main channel in all cities or not.

Personally, I'd prefer the networks to code AFL and NRL all on the same channel, but again the networks often don't seem to want to do that.

Fortunately, Mediaweek tweets usually give enough info to piece together most of what footy fans will typically be interested in, which is the ratings and breakdown by game, although there is incompleteness due to restriction on reporting shows outside the top 20, which often causes non-reporting of AFL regionals and NRL GEM figures.

 

[colly]

Thanks you explained a lot. However time shifting where their is no time difference ie Melb/Bris/Syd ( during winter) to 'get the best rated outcome is fraudulent IMP.

 

[El Diablo]

Fortunately, Mediaweek tweets usually give enough info to piece together most of what footy fans will typically be interested in, which is the ratings and breakdown by game

they only ever give the preliminary overnight figures which aren't the most accurate

often the consolidated numbers are different and a tad higher

 

[The_Wookie]

they only ever give the preliminary overnight figures which aren't the most accurate

often the consolidated numbers are different and a tad higher

Not that you'll care, but I did take onboard your criticism regarding this from earlier. TVTonight do report the consolidated figures a week after the event - although only for Nine, not GEM.

So far this season tvtonight reporting 21 of 35 matches at an average of 1,952 per affected game and 41,000 total over the year - out of 23 million for the season. (and a week behind current). (sourced from tvtonight.com.au)

ASTRA reports are similar - although they only affect the top 10 stv programs - ASTRA reports 60/92 matches at an average of 2,383 per game and a total of 143,000 not on the mediaweek overnights - from an overall total of 21.7 million (ASTRA is up to date through to Saturday. (source: astra.org)