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[lingard]

um...that looks more like a coke bottle rather a bottle of Moet ...** cough **

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[T.S Quint]

Contemporary usage of ‘denial’ implies someone is being dishonest and avoiding responsibility.

Not really.
Like so many things in the English language, it depends on the context. But the words you are talking about aren't even the same.

If you were to say someone "is in denial" then yeah, it would mean they are being dishonest and avoiding responsibility. If you were to say that someone "raised his fist in denial" then it changes the meaning.

But 'denial' is not the word they used. They used 'denies' which is harder to change the meaning of, no matter the context.

 

[Gary Gutful]

there was no one more punk than Kamahl...back in the day, except for maybe Nick Cave or Chris Bailey

The Saints are untouchable imo. The greatest and most influential Australian band of all time. I'd put the Go-Betweens as No. 2.

 

[Gary Gutful]

How about that 360 show huh???

Its rubby league from most angles.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

A good old fashioned arsehole bottle-ing never hurt anyone. Arguably made us the greatest country on earth.

 

[T.S Quint]

The Saints are untouchable imo. The greatest and most influential Australian band of all time. I'd put the Go-Betweens as No. 2.

Pfft.

The Wiggles.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Not really.
Like so many things in the English language, it depends on the context. But the words you are talking about aren't even the same.

If you were to say someone "is in denial" then yeah, it would mean they are being dishonest and avoiding responsibility. If you were to say that someone "raised his fist in denial" then it changes the meaning.

But 'denial' is not the word they used. They used 'denies' which is harder to change the meaning of, no matter the context.

Well in fact the verb is even worse, because someone who denies is a denier.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Clearly he denies the allegations, as his mates at The Australian have journaled that he intends to defend the allegations. You're playing semantics.
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Notice they said defend rather than deny? It assumes a very different set of facts.

 

[T.S Quint]

Well in fact the verb is even worse, because someone who denies is a denier.

He hasn't been called a 'denier'.
Calling him that word may have negative connotations these days, mainly due to people becoming 'climate deniers' or 'holocaust deniers', so if they had called him that then you may have a point.

But they didn't.

 

[the phantom menace]

Pou attempts to plays semantics to try and find fault... and again fails.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He hasn't been called a 'denier'.
Calling him that word may have negative connotations these days, mainly due to people becoming 'climate deniers' or 'holocaust deniers', so if they had called him that then you may have a point.

But they didn't.

It’s implied.

 

[T.S Quint]

It’s implied.

I don't see it.

"He denies the allegations" does not imply anything to me except, he says he didn't do it. Which is what's happening.

It's your preconceived ideas that have you thinking otherwise, I imagine.

 

[T.S Quint]

Pou attempts to plays semantics to try and find fault... and again fails.

Phantom attempts to troll Pou once again...and just comes across as annoying.
There's no need for this after every post he makes, mate.

 

[the phantom menace]

There's no need for this after every post he makes, mate.

It's not every post - only the dumb ones.

Well, actually half of the dumb ones he makes.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't see it.

"He denies the allegations" does not imply anything to me except, he says he didn't do it. Which is what's happening.

It's your preconceived ideas that have you thinking otherwise, I imagine.

They are preconceived for a reason though.

 

[T.S Quint]

They are preconceived for a reason though.

Still doesn't mean you're right. They are just your preconceptions. I'm not sure if anyone else in here thought the same thing as you did. So does that mean this journalist was trying to paint him as guilty by using one particular word? I'm not so sure.

 

[the phantom menace]

Or maybe a third...

 

[Avenger]

Another thread derailed by the resident troll(s).

 

[T.S Quint]

Another thread derailed by the resident troll(s).

Sorry.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Still doesn't mean you're right. They are just your preconceptions.

This is the media we're talking about here. Perception is everything. The fact is language is a dog whistle, and the Guardian's readers definitely want to read about how that villain Lehrmann is 'denying' rather than 'defending' (the language used by the Australian). Mainstream media orgs are selling moral entertainment to people who want their view of the world reinforced.

I'm not sure if anyone else in here thought the same thing as you did.

I know at least one did. Plenty more would have but they're not going to like my posts because they're on ignore.