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NRL bans Gallen from Dally M awards

Pedge1971

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Let's not pretend it's black and white when it's not.

If you were innocent, and were given the choice to tick a box, and be suspended for three games, or don't tick the box, and pay half a million dollars and endure a long legal battle to prove your innocence, which would you choose? Most players are probably just sick of having to deal with the ASADA issue and just want to move on.

This. No judgement of innocent or guilty, but he took the path of least resistance. I hope the truth comes out but fear it won't. Think the decision to ban them from awards this year is right, but if there is no more conclusive proof, the stain on their reputations forever is enough.
 

Perth Red

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Sounded like plenty of evidence was presented. I have no doubt they took the illegal substances. If they knew what they were taking, if they were lied to, if they were ignorant or dumb or compliant I guess we will never know unless asada goes after the club and coaching staff or the players sue the club then it might come out what really happened.
 

Pedge1971

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Sounded like plenty of evidence was presented. I have no doubt they took the illegal substances. If they knew what they were taking, if they were lied to, if they were ignorant or dumb or compliant I guess we will never know unless asada goes after the club and coaching staff or the players sue the club then it might come out what really happened.

Sounds like? Source? There is no evidence or these blokes would never play again! Lots of suspicious circumstances, allegations and speculation but not much evidence. Now, where there is smoke there is fire, but no hard evidence....
 

oldmancraigy

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Sounds like? Source? There is no evidence or these blokes would never play again! Lots of suspicious circumstances, allegations and speculation but not much evidence. Now, where there is smoke there is fire, but no hard evidence....

Source = they all took a 1 year ban....

As a result evidence isn't made public, so you won't get to see it. But if there was nothing to worry about, well....
 

DJShaksta

First Grade
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Let's not pretend it's black and white when it's not.

If you were innocent, and were given the choice to tick a box, and be suspended for three games, or don't tick the box, and pay half a million dollars and endure a long legal battle to prove your innocence, which would you choose? Most players are probably just sick of having to deal with the ASADA issue and just want to move on.

Stop making sense, most of the people in here won't understand it.
 

forby

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If you were charged with a criminal offence that you did not commit would you take a plea for a lesser charge just to end the issue, leaving you with a criminal record and its consequences? Or would you fight like hell to clear your name and prove your innocence?
If you knew you had done the crime you would jump at the chance and sign off, but if you were innocent, why would you sign?
It is no different with these players. They are all now officially self confessed drug cheats, and no amount of innuendo and speculation can change this. The evidence that was presented to them must have been conclusive to cause the rapid sign off by them all. Remember, that even those with the most to lose, Paul Gallen and Matthew Wright, signed of very quickly after meeting with ASADA and their own lawyers.
 

oikee

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Until they strip NSW and Gallen of the Origin shield, and hand it back to Queensland, this is all just a joke, a make believe punishment and a farce.
And Gallen's super human effort that had Joey, Freddie , Sterling and Gush Gould fornicating over him when he played all game at front row in 2011 was while he was on the jungle juice and should be scrubbed from the record books forever and his name should be blackened from the darkest day in Australian sport, or so we were told.
Nay, give him a slap on the wrist and 3 weeks holiday.
No wonder our code gets laughed at and thrust aside.
 

bluey

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Until they strip NSW and Gallen of the Origin shield, and hand it back to Queensland, this is all just a joke, a make believe punishment and a farce.
And Gallen's super human effort that had Joey, Freddie , Sterling and Gush Gould fornicating over him when he played all game at front row in 2011 was while he was on the jungle juice and should be scrubbed from the record books forever and his name should be blackened from the darkest day in Australian sport, or so we were told.
Nay, give him a slap on the wrist and 3 weeks holiday.
No wonder our code gets laughed at and thrust aside.

That post is a farce, And until everything is made public this will continue.
 

hutch

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Until they strip NSW and Gallen of the Origin shield, and hand it back to Queensland, this is all just a joke, a make believe punishment and a farce.
And Gallen's super human effort that had Joey, Freddie , Sterling and Gush Gould fornicating over him when he played all game at front row in 2011 was while he was on the jungle juice and should be scrubbed from the record books forever and his name should be blackened from the darkest day in Australian sport, or so we were told.
Nay, give him a slap on the wrist and 3 weeks holiday.
No wonder our code gets laughed at and thrust aside.

One of your dumbest posts ever. Jungle juice???? Wtf!
 

Knightmare

Coach
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Until they strip NSW and Gallen of the Origin shield, and hand it back to Queensland, this is all just a joke, a make believe punishment and a farce.
And Gallen's super human effort that had Joey, Freddie , Sterling and Gush Gould fornicating over him when he played all game at front row in 2011 was while he was on the jungle juice and should be scrubbed from the record books forever and his name should be blackened from the darkest day in Australian sport, or so we were told.
Nay, give him a slap on the wrist and 3 weeks holiday.
No wonder our code gets laughed at and thrust aside.

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bottle

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Until they strip NSW and Gallen of the Origin shield, and hand it back to Queensland, this is all just a joke, a make believe punishment and a farce.
And Gallen's super human effort that had Joey, Freddie , Sterling and Gush Gould fornicating over him when he played all game at front row in 2011 was while he was on the jungle juice and should be scrubbed from the record books forever and his name should be blackened from the darkest day in Australian sport, or so we were told.
Nay, give him a slap on the wrist and 3 weeks holiday.
No wonder our code gets laughed at and thrust aside.

Our code gets laughed at and thrust aside?
I just laughed at that, and now I thrust you aside.
Away with you foolish little ranting maniac.
 

oikee

Juniors
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Gallen should retire.
He has not only let the code down with his actions, lets not forget his past, and just like Carney he has continued to disgrace the code.
On top of that he has let his club Cronulla down big time,.
He was more interested in playing origin because of the money than helping Cronulla, he is the most selfish player outside Falou and Hunt i have ever seen.

Strip him of all his Origin achievements now . Send the next Gallen a message, we wont be sucked in twice.
 

Perth Red

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Evidence would get you a 2 year ban.

Evidence did get them a 2 year ban. 12 months reduction for confessing and backdated due to ASADA's incompetence.

There was pages of evidence presented to players lawyers according to that last report. Wake up its coffee time.
 

fourplay

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Evidence did get them a 2 year ban. 12 months reduction for confessing and backdated due to ASADA's incompetence.

There was pages of evidence presented to players lawyers according to that last report. Wake up its coffee time.

Two year ban? :lol:
How will the backdated ban be enforced? Players must enter a time machine to the past and sit out games? Return earnings and prize money? Have records or titles stripped? The ban is three weeks.

After a two year long investigation, if the evidence was "strong", how likely do you think it is that they would hand out three week bans?
 

Usain Bolt

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Say it with me people... PAUL. GALLEN. IS. A. DRUG. CHEAT.

It really isn't that hard but some posting in this thread are acting like it's the hardest thing in the world to do:lol:
 

carcharias

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Evidence did get them a 2 year ban. 12 months reduction for confessing and backdated due to ASADA's incompetence.

There was pages of evidence presented to players lawyers according to that last report. Wake up its coffee time.

12 months for confessing?

Haha

You poor fool.

Most people with even half a brain know that's not why he only got 3 weeks .
 

Perth Red

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Two year ban? :lol:
How will the backdated ban be enforced? Players must enter a time machine to the past and sit out games? Return earnings and prize money? Have records or titles stripped? The ban is three weeks.

After a two year long investigation, if the evidence was "strong", how likely do you think it is that they would hand out three week bans?

In the other thread there has been examples posted of ASADAs balls up in regards to this with a number of athletes over the last two years. All received 12month bans, all backdated due to ASADAs lack of expedience in issuing notices. They didn't hand out three week bans. They handed out 12 month bans backdated to November. It is ridiculous and makes them look totally incompetent but it has happened in athletics, now the NRL and no doubt AFL will be the next backdated ban farce. ASADA need a massive rocket and restructure to get them into shape to be the organisation Australian sport needs them to be.

This one is a just one of their stuff ups recently, note the backdated ban. This guy got two years and only served 3 months due to their shockingly poor performance!
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/athleti...e-should-have-been-banned-20140328-zqo5e.html
 
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