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NRL boss Dave Smith embarks on quest of massive reforms

Perth Red

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One of the most powerful men on the arlc was one of the key instigators in taking the power from the afl clubs and giving it to,the afl head office. Samuels is one of the key men behind centralising power in the NRL, club chairmen and CEOs can whinge all they like, the tele can sht on smith and the game as much as it likes but the arlc is on a course to have total control of RL in Australia and won't be influenced by the likes of politis and Gould.
 

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Someone is going to have to explain to me what Politis has to do with any of that...
 

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Lol we taking Wilson seriously now. Also I know people who under Smith at Lloyds who said very similar things about him as that webster article. I think he is doing ok though.
 
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NRL Draft.

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http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...ponse-to-concept/story-fndujljl-1227026646009

NRL boss Dave Smith faces rookie road as he drafts a response to concept

8 hours ago August 17, 2014 12:00AM


RUGBY league has long thrived on the game’s love of an ambush, skulduggery and all-round subterfuge.

Which is why NRL CEO Dave Smith is about to get cornered walking into a gun-fight carrying a butter knife over his proposal to implement a rookie draft for the 2017 season.

Some of the most powerful figures in rugby league, headed by Nick Politis and Phil Gould, were fuming last Sunday when Smith’s concept to even the spread of emerging talent was splashed all over The Sunday Telegraph.

Make no mistake, the NRL and Smith want the rookie draft to happen and they want the concept bedded-down and implemented for the 2017 season.

Smith asked Rabbitohs boss Shane Richardson to compile a paper outlining the pros and cons on the subject earlier this year, with the Rabbitohs boss pushing for the rookie draft to be fast-tracked and in place for the start of the 2016 season last weekend.

But Roosters chairman Politis is diametrically opposed to this, meaning NRL headquarters is headed for an almighty ambush early next month when a collection of the most powerful figures in the game front Smith to vent their view.

From a players’ perspective, Melbourne Storm and NSW Origin forward Ryan Hoffman is a huge supporter of the concept, highlighting how it could be a major tool for rugby league growth.

“It’s a model that certainly works overseas and it’s gone quite well in the AFL the way I see it,” Hoffman said.

“Even going a little bit broader, it keeps the game in the spotlight at the end of each season for a little bit longer and it’s a positive storyline for the game.

“I also like the fact that it means junior rugby league is going to be centrally funded by the NRL.

“I remember when I was 18 years old, I wanted to leave home and experience something different and coming to Melbourne was the best move I ever made.

“Some people have said some players might be forced to go to areas where they don’t necessarily want to.

“The way I see it, if that’s the place that’s going to give you an opportunity to follow your dream and play in the NRL, then you have to go for it. That’s my personal view on it.”

One of the main points of debate when it comes to the draft is the NRL’s concept of possibly allowing club’s to make their top three, four or five juniors exempt from entering into trade week.

The argument against this is it is not really a true draft in the sense of the word, meaning the no. 1 pick is not really the best emerging player in the game.

Also, when you consider Penrith has 9000 juniors, Parramatta has 7500 and Souths has 3500 — compared to the Roosters 768 — clearly there is a gross imbalance.

On the flip side, club’s which invest heavily in junior development such as St George Illawarra, Canberra, Penrith, New Zealand, North Queensland and Brisbane could argue they were being penalised by investing millions in development only for other clubs to reap the rewards.

Wests Tigers centre Chris Lawrence warned this was the area the NRL needed to ensure was safe guarded.

“Definitely the concept is pretty good in terms of spreading emerging talent,” Lawrence said.

“The only thing for a lot of clubs that spend money on junior development is would they still invest the money in developing kids if they their talent is going to get drafted to other clubs.

“As a senior player that would be my biggest concern.

“But for clubs that are finishing down the bottom of the ladder, it’s a great way of strengthening your roster.”

This is where the NRL needs to step in and take over development at the grass roots level, guaranteeing a rookie draft would work.

There is no doubt the concept still needs a lot more consultation with the 16 clubs before a genuine blueprint can be constructed.

But on face value, as much as some clubs may oppose it and Smith will be challenged heavily about it in the short-term, it does appear a strong way forward in the bigger picture of the game.
 

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The Salary Cap review has been a huge failure IMO. It's Smiths first failure as CEO but it's a pretty big one.

It really hasn't addressed any of the issues facing the game at the moment & in the future. The draft is jut another needless solution to nothing.
 

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Sometimes successful CEOs have to make decisions not to everyone's liking,in the best interest and for the long term future of their business.

If that means taking a lot of control away from some power hungry NRL club CEOs only interested in their own backyard,so be it.

Gould is doing wonders for the Panthers ,but not increasing the crowds.I have no idea what he is doing as CEO for that club for the game in general.
Judging by the efforts of some club CEOs and their boards,they need all the help they can get from Head Office.
And for Webster who would hardly know what a balance sheet looked like,or had an inkling of an idea that image for any business is important,then he best stick to journalism.
I actually fill in a lot of on line surveys asking questions relating to the image of a business eg Telstra,Coles etc.

The fact some are bitching is an indication Smith is making his mark.
 
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If that article is accurate, I can't believe only one stakeholder (Richardson), and not an independent one at that, was tasked to compile a list of pro's & con's and give his opinion on the matter.

obvious it isn't a proper evaluation of the concept, and more about trying to legitimate support for it which Smith wants to introduce.
 
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Poor little boys forced away from the loving bosom of their mothers to earn many times more than most of their peers while playing the game they love. Oh, the injustice of it all!

Do they want to be professional athletes or not? Heaven forbid they have to cut the apron strings, go out into the world and fend for themselves for a few years while experiencing the world outside their hometown and becoming financially independent.

And the draft is in no way a binding contract, anyway. They can easily say no thanks, spend a year in a second tier comp and re-enter the draft in the next season after maybe developing a relationship with their preferred club. If they find that unfair, there are plenty of real jobs that need doing. And anyway, if a player is good enough, he shouldn't have a problem convincing his hometown club to trade up to draft him, if necessary.

Realistically, very few of the kids that clubs identify and actually spend money developing make it into first grade and even fewer stay there for any significant amount if time. If there are five kids who become NRL ready in any given year, that's a fantastic result for a club. If a club has a few juniors they desperately want to keep, they can be put on a restricted list so that the other clubs who want them would have to offer compensation either in the form of money, a draft pick or one of their own juniors.

There's no way it'll be ready in the time frame Smith has given but it is inevitable, imo.
 

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ARLC commissioner Graeme Samuel on his role in modernising and expanding the afl back in 2009

Samuel was one of the so-called faceless men who were vilified by supporters during the attempted merger or relocation of clubs such as Footscray, Fitzroy, Melbourne and Hawthorn. So he knows from first-hand experience that even commissioners who are successful in commercial terms are unlikely to win popularity contests. ''You need a combination of hard-headed people with commercial experience, people with a strong knowledge and sensitivity to the tribal values of the competition and those with an ability of how to best massage the areas that need attention and who can make necessary changes,'' he says.

The Melbourne-based businessman professes no particular knowledge of the complicated rugby league hierarchy or how an independent commission might improve the game's position in an increasingly competitive marketplace. However, after a sometimes tumultuous 17 years as an AFL commissioner, he has little doubt about its role in turning a parochial suburban competition into a national powerhouse.

Beyond the expansion into a genuine national competition and the spectacular growth of television revenue, Samuel cites lucrative contracts with the MCG, the building of Etihad Stadium (which will eventually become AFL property) and the untangling of failed private ownership models in Sydney and Brisbane as examples of the commission's ability to apply independent and long-term thinking for the game's greater good.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/how-the-afl-commission-broke-the-shackles-20091130-k18f.html
 

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Club heavies to question incoming Warriors CEO Jim Doyle’s access to NRL salary cap information

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-cap-information/story-fnp0lyn3-1227045516063

Politis and his cartel of dinosaurs trying to be clever by insinuating Smith is a hypocrite by wanting better governance for clubs with independent directors while claiming Doyles continued work on salary cap proposals represents poor governance because of a conflict of interest with his future role as Warriors CEO.

If they were smart they might see the advantages of having a future club CEO working on salary cap proposals.
 
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Politis and his cartel of dinosaurs trying to be clever by insinuating Smith is a hypocrite by wanting better governance for clubs with independent directors while claiming Doyles continued work on salary cap proposals represents poor governance because of a conflict of interest with his future role as Warriors CEO.

If they were smart they might see the advantages of having a future club CEO working on salary cap proposals.

With all due respect, I think Nick Politis has the runs on the board a little more than some anonymous muppet on an Internet forum about how best to run a football club.
 

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With all due respect, I think Nick Politis has the runs on the board a little more than some anonymous muppet on an Internet forum about how best to run a football club.

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware we needed club qualifications to express an opinion on an internet forum? Or anywhere for that matter.

I'll be sure to monitor all your posts to make sure your qualified to hold that opinion, you're in the clear for this post because you are definitely qualified as a moron.
 
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Yeh NRL clubs are being really well run at the moment, hopefully this a numpties executive committee where smith pats them all on the head, makes them feel special and goes back to his office and gets on with reforming the game.
 

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I'm sorry, I wasn't aware we needed club qualifications to express an opinion on an internet forum? Or anywhere for that matter.

I'll be sure to monitor all your posts to make sure your qualified to hold that opinion, you're in the clear for this post because you are definitely qualified as a moron.

Who said anything about qualifications? You said "if Nick was smart..." and a counter argument was made, don't get your knickers in a knot now because just like you questioned someone's intelligence yours is now also being questioned.
 

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I'm sorry, I wasn't aware we needed club qualifications to express an opinion on an internet forum? Or anywhere for that matter.

I'll be sure to monitor all your posts to make sure your qualified to hold that opinion, you're in the clear for this post because you are definitely qualified as a moron.

You are the one who questioned Politis's intelligence, I won't go light on you this time, deadshit. The Easts Group holds in the vicinity of 80 million dollars of assets largely through his business acumen. However you trust an ex banker to drop 'independent' directors into clubs. David Smith wants to control the 16 clubs to prevent them from having any ability to challenge his decision making. He is one person who is not to be trusted.
 

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The notion of David Smith's independent board member is 2 fold, its a glossy front of lets get some experience with a darker underside of eventually all profits going back to the NRL
 

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