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what puzzles me is why the NRL offered 130% of salary cap, when they are at 85% now..
Why not just offer 100% of cap ...
Why not just offer 100% of cap ...
Yeah but in my defence I didn't realise he was full genius until just now.
what puzzles me is why the NRL offered 130% of salary cap, when they are at 85% now..
Why not just offer 100% of cap ...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...s/news-story/00dc127b832afefdfb1b6b7471c769ad
Knights chairman Brian McGuigan says John Grant has ‘stuffed up’ and must apologise to clubs
November 28, 2016 9:42pm
Barry Toohey
NEWCASTLE chairman Brian McGuigan says John Grant “stuffed up” and has called on the ARL Commission chairman to immediately apologise in a bid to bring warring factions back to the negotiating table to resolve the funding crisis issue.
The Gold Coast Titans weren’t the only club not to sign a formal letter calling for Grant to resign with McGuigan revealing the NRL-controlled Knights also abstained from voting.
“How can we vote against the hand that feeds us?’’ McGuigan said.
“The Titans and ourselves abstained from voting with the complete understanding of the other clubs because we are in an invidious position.
“But we are as one with all the other clubs — it’s just the way we go about resolving it is the issue now.”
McGuigan said he never considered walking out of the meeting with Grant last Wednesday but can understand the views of those who did.
“For me, walking out was too extreme but some of the chairman who did walk were the people who were part of the subcommittee that had been directly negotiating with the NRL,” he said.
“That’s why they felt so concerned and deflated by the NRL saying they were cancelling the talks and going back to scratch.
“It hit them very hard because I think we all felt we were within a couple of hours of having all our issues agree to before having the rug pulled out from under us.”
While he said he couldn’t speak for other chairmen, McGuigan said he is prepared to meet with Grant later this week to keep the dialogue going.
But he said an apology has to be the first port of call.
“I would hope there would be an apology from Johns to all those chairmen who were offended by the way in which we were disrespected,” he said.
“By the way in which the whole thing has been handled and presented.
“John stuffed up. He has admitted everywhere that Wednesday’s gospel was a fiasco and that the chairmen, particularly the negotiating people were offended and that has got to be corrected by an apology.
“He had only returned home that morning and I don’t think it had been prepared well enough or thought through well enough when it was presented.
“I’d put it down to a lack of being updated about every body’s expectations.
“I hope we can get back together and thrash it out. People will be sceptical about such a view but I just think you get a lot further with honey than you do with vinegar.”
McGuigan admitted he doesn’t know if a resolution is possible with Grant remaining as chairman given the hostility from other clubs.
“I don’t have an answer to that,” he said.
“We have received some correspondence from John which I’m yet to respond to but will say I am available for meetings at any time because the only way to resolve this is to talk.
“We have to get back to talk. If we can’t with everybody, we have to go by ourselves and hopefully as a result of moving forward, we can entice some of those other chairmen back.
“We have to find a way to go forward and get this resolved for the good of the game.”
what puzzles me is why the NRL offered 130% of salary cap, when they are at 85% now..
Why not just offer 100% of cap ...
I agree.
But let me get this right, because an apology may help, think this has already been said, but these BROKE ass clubs want verbal pleasantries while they spend money they don't have to fight management for money bitterly and demand an apology?
Don't be idiots. Get a fkn funding agreement in place!! Lol
And that's what this Newcastle chairman is trying to do. Absolutely agree with him
Collingwood, Hawthorn, West Coast and Fremantle have all made individual presentations to league chief Gillon McLachlan to voice disappointment with the game's new investment model that they claim has over-corrected in the equalisation push.
As the AFL intensifies efforts to close the gap between rich and poor clubs, the game's wealthiest franchises have learned they will each receive an estimated $8.6 million next year, which in real terms means they will receive no lift from the richest sport media deal in Australian history. The poorer clubs, led by 2016 preliminary finalist Greater Western Sydney, are expected to receive more than $20 million at the bottom of a sliding scale that has been presented to the AFL Commission.
Gold Coast, Brisbane and St Kilda make up the bottom four and biggest welfare recipients
Simple answer
NRL pull out of supporting these clubs if they don't toe the line
Be a great way for the nrl to lose a whole heap of moneySimple answer
NRL pull out of supporting these clubs if they don't toe the line
Every word of this is garbage.
1) The clubs are running losses for the most part because they have been underfunded since 1998.
Why don't they just spend within their means?
Ok, let's say Mr Doust decides to spend $1mil less than most other clubs on player salaries and another $1mil less on football operations, and a bit less on marketing and admin too.
Suddenly his club is coming last 3 or 4 years in a row.
If Dragons fans boycott after finishing 9th, how do you expect them to react to this?
What about someone like Melbourne even more dependent on success due to being an an AFL city?
It doesn't work. Any club that fell behind that far would bleed fans and thus money and die within 5 years. Cronulla came close in 2009-11.
It's a completely ridiculous proposal and wouldn't be an issue if they got a fair share of the sport's worth.
2) "GIFTED millions of dollars by the NRL"
Hold the f**king phone, who earns this money for the NRL? Do people pay for Foxtel to watch Greenberg vs Grant, or Souths vs Broncos?
Clubs (via the players they employ) earn the money. The NRL is the middleman.
3) The NRL in using the clubs to earn money for the competition actively sabotages individual clubs ability to earn money, which would probably help them break even.
Last year if a club got 3 Monday or Thursday night games they've likely missed out on close to 30,000 paying fans compared to a Sunday afternoon. That could be worth well over $1 million directly.
Indirectly, it affects their sponsorship value through lower crowd averages.
Speaking of sponsorship value, how about that FTA TV exposure they aren't getting unless their name happens to be "Brisbane Broncos".
Stop peddling the myth that clubs are incompetent money black holes. If they were paid their worth they'd be profitable.
As i said earlier, this is akin to saying a poor person should be paid 60% of their actual salary because being poor is evidence they can't be trusted with the whole lot.
The more likely scenario here is the Clubs pull out of supporting the NRL.
The clubs can live without the NRL, the NRL can not live without the clubs.
Lol the Nrl have the tv deal. If the clubs don't want to deal with the Nrl, sure they can leave, but discard any Nrl badging. As long as the Nrl have the players they can structure the comp the way it should be and get rid of 78 Sydney teams and have teams in brisbane, Perth, Adelaide, nz.
Talking a lot of sense in this thread...
It would be great if people could get past their biases of NRL Clubs = GreedyJabba The Hutts and NRL Admin = Underfunded Robin Hood crusaders who's only interest is the poor grassroots and expansion ( has Grant ever said anything positive about expansion!?)
Grant/commission/CEO all want expansion but the greedyJabba the hutts need more money to help their 100+ year clubs out which stops expansion. Simples
Yet the AFL thinks its worthwhile to have 94 teams in Melbourne where they have a total stranglehold on the city already, and spends gazillions every year propping up several Melbourne based basket cases...
This is the competition the NRL wants to emulate right?
Why do the AFL persevere with their crappy heartland clubs??
I don't think Nrl has the stranglehold in Sydney that the afl have in Melbourne. We aren't emulating it we are doing it as well.
When was the last time Grant spoke about expansion positively? If you could provide a link?
I think expansion has been well and truly lost in the NRL Admin Sherwood Forest for some time now...