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NRL faces major turmoil as clubs threaten breakaway league

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The simple fact in all of this is that the clubs need to be run on business lines.
With the losses the clubs make after their grants they there must be a lot of deadwood in some of there clubs offices.
 

Cockadoodledoo

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Why were Greenberg and Grant in the UK for the Four Nations tournament? This tournament did not require their attendance whatsoever. They weren't playing, part of the coaching staff or required to organize anything. They should have been back in Australia working on the funding arrangement.
 
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For the game to keep on standing still post super-league is a result of the incompetent and vision-less administration. Greenberg was a 'league' man that Smith wasn't and look what happened, if for once the admin had long term vision and planning the code would be better off.

The other codes must laugh at how badly the code is run, to think in spite of bad administration the code got a billion dollar deal and still surviving somehow.
 

Cockadoodledoo

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From where the Eastern suburbs themselves?

Junior development is junior development. The majority of our NRL team came through our under age teams. Our premiership winning U20 team was made up with a large number of our SG Ball winning team from 2014, most were unwanted by other teams including the Captain Nat Butcher, whom Souths did not offer a contract. Others like Latrell Mitchell and Connor Watson who were age eligible but ineligible due to First Grade games played were not wanted by other clubs. Latrell was rejected by Newcastle for example. We are developing kids in Wyong as well.
 

Exsilium

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Seems any time someone tells clubs "No" when it comes to how or what the governing body spends money on gets the arse or gets trialed by the media.

Dave Smith was right to stand up to these merkins and he got shown the door. Typical reaction, doesn't suit them so they want to oust people till they get their man into the accounts department.

Well played Greenburg.
 

Cockadoodledoo

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For the game to keep on standing still post super-league is a result of the incompetent and vision-less administration. Greenberg was a 'league' man that Smith wasn't and look what happened, if for once the admin had long term vision and planning the code would be better off..

Greenberg is a lawyer. Let's not pretend he is a League man.
 

insert.pause

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Why were Greenberg and Grant in the UK for the Four Nations tournament? This tournament did not require their attendance whatsoever. They weren't playing, part of the coaching staff or required to organize anything. They should have been back in Australia working on the funding arrangement.
Grant is the deputy chair of the RLIF which during the four nations held a congress in London that voted on hosting nations for the next two world cups, among other things. It's not an issue IMO, the problem is why nothing was done during the other 11 months he was in Australia. Like most things during the last 24 months, it's been a circus and it makes me angry to think of the sheer wastefulness of the last twelve months where the game hasn't progressed beyond treading water. There is no leadership.
 
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Grant is the deputy chair of the RLIF which during the four nations held a congress in London that voted on hosting nations for the next two world cups, among other things. It's not an issue IMO, the problem is why nothing was done during the other 11 months he was in Australia. Like most things during the last 24 months, it's been a circus and it makes me angry to think of the sheer wastefulness of the last twelve months where the game hasn't progressed beyond treading water. There is no leadership.
From the commission and the clubs themselves imo.
 
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Seems any time someone tells clubs "No" when it comes to how or what the governing body spends money on gets the arse or gets trialed by the media.

Dave Smith was right to stand up to these merkins and he got shown the door. Typical reaction, doesn't suit them so they want to oust people till they get their man into the accounts department.

Well played Greenburg.
The clubs wanted Greenberg in because they didn't like the truth that Dave Smith was telling them. well as the saying goes, "Be careful what you wish for"
 

Perth Red

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If they end with Samuel the clubs will be screwed, he wouldnt stand there nonsense and would be very clear they sign up or leave.

Clubs are making themselves look stupid tbh, end of day Grant is one commissioner and has no more strategic way in the direction the commission wants to go in spending its money than each of the other commissioners plus CEO.

It was dumb of the NRL to make an offer 12 months ago when they didn't have a full picture of where they want to go up until 2022 and that was their big mistake.

If I was NRL I'd stick to the 130%, set salary cap at $8.5mill going up $.5mill a year from 2018-2022, withdraw the $1.5mill a club discretionary funding and tell the clubs they are on their own, get into strife and we'll let you fall over and bring in other options.
 

Nerd

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I for one hopes the NRL Commission digs their heels in. More money needs to find it's way into the grass roots of the game similar to the AFL's Auskick clinics which are conducted in primary schools.
 

kbw

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Face it at least 50% of the people running NRL clubs are halfwits the can't manage the job.
Greenberg is not the worst we have had.
Grant is an absolutely useless moron that should not be doing much more than working in a 7-11.
He is either a blatant liar or a 5 start ignoramus, shown with such claims of the huge spending on grassroots RL.

Dave Smith while better than Grant was well out of his depth and should not even have got an interview for the RL boss position
 

AJB1102

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I don't know if the money the Clubs want is excessive or not. But if Grant did agreed to that 12 months ago why has he gone back on that now? Was he just talking shit to keep people happy? Had no f**kin idea till later what he'd promised? What has changed that they can't keep that agreement anymore?

Either way whether you agree with the Clubs or the ARLC its not the most inspiring show of leadership. We're 4 months out from kickoff to the final season before this new deal and money kicks in and no one knows what the bloody salary cap is gonna be the year after! Meanwhile Greenburg is saying stuff like "we need to think very, very carefully" and "think long and hard" in regards to strategy and spending etc ... what the f**k have they been doing? You shoulda had at least an outline of how you'd spend the money before you even came up with an asking price for the new deal.
 

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