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NRL: Lets talk about relocating teams, says QRL boss.

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Stallion

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It’s hardly a link though is it? The two share nothing to link the two together really.
Why not move north’s because Perth is north of Fremantle?

Because the Sydney competition is the impetus for such a club! You fail to acknowledge that the foundation Sydney based clubs of this renowned competition have credibility and established popular support throughout Australia. This does not apply to the local Perth rugby league comp. The Sydney comp based clubs are the jewel in the crown. Remembering the NRL has sprouted from the Sydney rugby league competition. North Sydney has a perfect and logical relocation choice in the Central Coast. Not only is this location right on the main train line but is a modern and visible stadium. Both North Sydney fans and Central Coast fans can enjoy this club. And Manly will once again regain a local rivalry. It's logical for many but not for some.
 
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Because the Sydney competition is the impetus for such a club! You fail to acknowledge that the foundation Sydney based clubs of this renowned competition have credibility and established popular support throughout Australia. This does not apply to the local Perth rugby league comp. The Sydney comp based clubs are the jewel in the crown. Remembering the NRL has sprouted from the Sydney rugby league competition. It's logical for many but not for some.

Meaningless waffle
 

titoelcolombiano

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Lol. I'd suggest you're the one not playing with a straight bat!? Different clubs have different strengths! clubs can be better in various aspects of 'support' compared to eachother. For instance the generational support of all Sydney clubs would be far greater than recently admitted clubs?!
And their is no 'waffle' about the appropriate naming of a club. It matters very much!

Answer the questions:

Do you see the difference between a supporter that attends games, buys memberships and merchandise and one that doesn't?

Are some Sydney clubs bigger than others? And I'm not talking about club strength (however you define that), I'm talking about attendances and membemberships.
 

Stallion

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Answer the questions:

Do you see the difference between a supporter that attends games, buys memberships and merchandise and one that doesn't?

Are some Sydney clubs bigger than others? And I'm not talking about club strength (however you define that), I'm talking about attendances and membemberships.

Lol. You seem to be implying that as the sole club strength? It's not ! The other factors are just as important for ongoing success as a business. I'm answering your questions. You just don't like the answer!
 

Stallion

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So it wasn’t last season?

Did the Bears play in the top flight last season!, I know your tact and its an ignorant stance. The game was in 1991. Still in living memory of most people . It shows a thriving supporter base for the Bears. What you people whom advocate carvinget up Sydney's established are that they all have established supporter bases both in and outside of Sydney. But endlessly we see you retort that these supporter bases don't matter. They do matter! You fools!
 

titoelcolombiano

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Lol. You seem to be implying that as the sole club strength? It's not ! The other factors are just as important for ongoing success as a business. I'm answering your questions. You just don't like the answer!

No, I haven't mentioned strength once. I am asking you about size. Yes, size is measured in memberships, average attendances, merchandise sales and TV ratings. That is an accurate way to measure a club's size. Everything else is anecdotal and does nothing to support that club or the game.

So please tell me at the 5th or 6th time of asking:

1. Do you acknowledge the difference between a supporter that buys memberships and merchandise and attends games and a ''supporter'' that doesn't do these things?

2. Are some Sydney clubs bigger than others? Not ''stronger'', not ''older'', not with a high number of ''supporters'' that don't actually support the club.... do you acknowledge that some Sydney clubs are bigger than others?

I'll wait for your reply which will dodge answering the questions again.... o_O
 

titoelcolombiano

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Did the Bears play in the top flight last season!, I know your tact and its an ignorant stance. The game was in 1991. Still in living memory of most people . It shows a thriving supporter base for the Bears. What you people whom advocate carvinget up Sydney's established are that they all have established supporter bases both in and outside of Sydney. But endlessly we see you retort that these supporter bases don't matter. They do matter! You fools!

It was a valid question from @Pommy - both Wests and Norths play in the NSW Cup. If we put half as much effort into tapping into nostalgia in the second teir of RL as the Shute Shield does in the third teir of RU then traditional old clubs like this could pull big crowds from that level.
 

Stallion

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No, I haven't mentioned strength once. I am asking you about size. Yes, size is measured in memberships, average attendances, merchandise sales and TV ratings. That is an accurate way to measure a club's size. Everything else is anecdotal and does nothing to support that club or the game.

So please tell me at the 5th or 6th time of asking:

1. Do you acknowledge the difference between a supporter that buys memberships and merchandise and attends games and a ''supporter'' that doesn't do these things?

2. Are some Sydney clubs bigger than others? Not ''stronger'', not ''older'', not with a high number of ''supporters'' that don't actually support the club.... do you acknowledge that some Sydney clubs are bigger than others?

I'll wait for your reply which will dodge answering the questions again.... o_O

And for the umpteenth time Dodo: People can support a club in many ways. Just because your version doesn't fit someone else's idea of what a supporter doesn't mean you are right! Get back in your hole and work that out. At the moment you are way out of your depth in relation to the culture and subsequent support for this code. Do you seriously think that when these incompetent RL administrators ousted the Rabbitoes they looked at that club's widespread latent support? No! These 'administrators' went ahead and tore up one of the most supported and famous clubs of the league. Dummy!
 
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Stallion

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It was a valid question from @Pommy - both Wests and Norths play in the NSW Cup. If we put half as much effort into tapping into nostalgia in the second teir of RL as the Shute Shield does in the third teir of RU then traditional old clubs like this could pull big crowds from that level.

No. It seems it
doesn't work that way! You don't expect or insult fans by having them follow a lower tier when they are understandably following a top tier club. The union are catering for such disenfranchised rl supporters and their localism advantage . This localism advantage can be repaired for rugby league if the Bears are reincarnated on the Central Coast. But that's too logical and developmental for some on this site.
 
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Remove one team from Western Sydney (probably tigers), move Dragons permanently to Illawarra, remove Sharks, move Manly to Central Coast.

Add Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane #2 and either NZ#2 or Central Queensland/Far North QLD (with pathway for PNG players). Ta dah; 18 teams, teams in every major city and regional centre. Most importantly don't ever bring back the Bears.
 

Stallion

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Remove one team from Western Sydney (probably tigers), move Dragons permanently to Illawarra, remove Sharks, move Manly to Central Coast.

Add Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane #2 and either NZ#2 or Central Queensland/Far North QLD (with pathway for PNG players). Ta dah; 18 teams, teams in every major city and regional centre. Most importantly don't ever bring back the Bears.

TROLL!
 

ReddFelon

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No, I'm just not dumb enough to think that 100+ years of support for Shute Shield clubs in North Sydney came about because the Bears stopped playing. The Waratahs openly acknowledge that 80% of their players are sourced from North Shore schools (and have been for a century).

At the same time Queensland recognises that country footy is a huge area of actual playing talent and television support that can be measured in participation and ratings. Unlike mythological Bears fans who are as frequently sited as the Loch Ness monster.
 

Stallion

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No, I'm just not dumb enough to think that 100+ years of support for Shute Shield clubs in North Sydney came about because the Bears stopped playing. The Waratahs openly acknowledge that 80% of their players are sourced from North Shore schools (and have been for a century).

At the same time Queensland recognises that country footy is a huge area of actual playing talent and television support that can be measured in participation and ratings. Unlike mythological Bears fans who are as frequently sited as the Loch Ness monster.

Suggest you research the crowds which well and truelly dwarfed union crowds for numerous decades before you shoot off your private school biased response. You assert the Bears have no support just like South Sydney did!? News for you champ!? Get to dribbling your divisive shit in your non tackling ballet performing existence TROLL!
 
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