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NRL players at the bottom of the pile - Roy Masters

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All capital cities are not equal.

1/3 of Australians live in NSW
NSW & QLD together are over 50% of the Aussie population.

Your exactly right. Not all cities are equal. I was making a point about making points using statistics. Sorry for the confusion.

Using my simple maths to build a statistic the headline could have read NRL players paid more then AFL.
 

Mark Rudd

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You guys are dumb. Roy was simply stating the obvious.

Considering RL / NRL IS the toughest football code/ comp on the planet, NRL players are poorly paid compaired to other codes even here in Australia.
 

beave

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They might be the toughest players on the planet and paid poorly compared to the NFL an EPL, but seriously, they play a f#$king game. Those other 2 codes can support insane wages because of the populations in which support those comps, we have 3 major football codes here and our country has a population of 22 odd mill..........

at the end of the day they are not doctors,nurses, they don't have people's lives directly in their hands, I think they get paid well enough really for what they do.
 

Perth Red

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NRL Income $150mill, AFL $327mill enough said

Also avg club income in NRL is around $13-14mill, last year the WC Eagles income was $44.5mill.

Until the code and the clubs learn how to make more $'s it is always going to be so.
 
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Loudstrat

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Union has a world market - apples with oranges and the money has almost run dry.

By Roys reckoning using statistics to build points.

AFL plays in 5 major capitals whereas league play in 3 (New Zealand not incl).

NRL is in a market 3/5th's the size of AFL. Therefore their average wage is:

$242,500.00 x 3 / 5 =


Drumroll please $145,500.00. If they are averaging $177,750.00 this means they are outdoing their AFL counterparts by $32,250.00 on average.

In the end who cares!

They are all well paid for what they do, when they do it well, and nothing entertains like a good game of league. Whatever the cost!

If you are going to use statistics use the right ones. The 3 capitals the NRL is in - Brisbane, Sydney, Canberra and Melboring - I make that 4.

I also not that Newcastle, Wollongong, Gold Coast and NQ - according to you - have zero contribution to League. Are you one of the dumb twits like the AFL who think Australia has only 5 postcodes???
 

ironhorse

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Yeah the "people reach" is far greater in NRL , which some forget . AFL is played in TAS but TAS has less people in the state than the region of Parramatta....Really AFL is a Victorian sport and nothing else , so their current $750 million TV deal is amazing genius or more likely was constructed in Victoria by myopic Victorians .AFL TV ratings are extremely poor in NSW and QLD . Over the odds TV deal = over the odds contracted players pool . As others have said comparing to Union or the top 30 ACB contracted Cricket players is just really silly or designed to deceive .
 

Perth Red

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Still doesn't account for the massive revenue difference between the two codes. Even taking out AFL's $50mill extra TV money a year they still have a revenue of over $127mill a year more than the NRL is bringing in! That is a massive amount of difference and I'd love to know where they are bringing it in from compared to us. Telstra deal = $12mill but that leaves $115mill extra from somewhere.

I'd also love to know how the WC Eagles can bring in $18mill a year more than the Broncos with a smaller stadium?
 

lockyno1

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I'd also love to know how the WC Eagles can bring in $18mill a year more than the Broncos with a smaller stadium?

The 40 or 50,000 Eagles members help a bit. That is where the NRL keeps failing. You need members upon members and you give the fans what they want- limited night matches and day football. If the AFL can limit itself to 3-4 night matches a week, the NRL can.
 

Red Bear

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Bzzz... wrong.

The Warriors have a very lucrative deal with Vodafone. They also have a multi millionaire as one of their main shareholders.

This year they have stored some of their salary cap, and even at the moment there's murmurs of them using it on guys like Krisnan Inu... or $BW.. or to allow them to work into the U20s into first grade a bit more by leaving space that would normally be allocated to the second tier cap.
Probably a smart move really, slowly but surely push some deadwood out of the club leaving you open for a decent raid, it's what the club needs.

Although it's not a centre or a second rower you need, it's a halfback. Throw the cash at Thurston!
 

roopy

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Masters counts the representative earnings for Union players - but not for league players - and SOO and test earnings for players add up to big bikkies these days.

He says Wallabies average 308k a year combined S14 and Test income - I'd say the Kangaroos average at least 400k combined club, SOO and Test income - probably more.
 

m0nty

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The 40 or 50,000 Eagles members help a bit. That is where the NRL keeps failing. You need members upon members and you give the fans what they want- limited night matches and day football. If the AFL can limit itself to 3-4 night matches a week, the NRL can.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Memberships are what should be driving NRL club growth now and in the future. The clubs are slowly getting there but it's painful to watch.
 

lockyno1

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There are not enough membership types. I know the AFL have about 10 types- Club memberships, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Ethiad, MCC memberships, etc. What has the NRL got? Club memberships..yeah great but not everyone wants to be a club member. It is the reason I stopped being a club member this year. The membership was not giving me any benefits.
 

lockyno1

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Nope, I was a Brisbane member for the last 4 years. It was just not worth it this year. I have better things to spend my money on. On the other hand my Essendon and MCC membership is worth it as I get guaranteed GF seats.
 

Cumberland Throw

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NRL Income $150mill, AFL $327mill enough said

Also avg club income in NRL is around $13-14mill, last year the WC Eagles income was $44.5mill.

Until the code and the clubs learn how to make more $'s it is always going to be so.


AFL clubs use gaming income in those figures, not saying WCE do. But they probably own a pub or 2 or some hospitality property that makes them income...

NRL clubs could easily do the same and Penrith would have an income of probably $600M + this may be all from the 13 odd leagues club the panthers group owns throughout the state, but who cares, they are just numbers. The fact that they have probably $599M in expenses running all these properties doesn't seem to matter
 

Perth Red

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AFL clubs use gaming income in those figures, not saying WCE do. But they probably own a pub or 2 or some hospitality property that makes them income...

NRL clubs could easily do the same and Penrith would have an income of probably $600M + this may be all from the 13 odd leagues club the panthers group owns throughout the state, but who cares, they are just numbers. The fact that they have probably $599M in expenses running all these properties doesn't seem to matter

no they don't but they do have various investment portfolios. Difference is all of that money is the sports clubs, not a leagues club. They also made $4million+ profit which the NRL Panthers (or any other NRL club) aren't close to. The stadium deal they have is also very good in terms of what they make out of that.

As said membership helps alot, you have to pay an $80 membership just to stay on the waiting list for a season membership in years and years time!
 

Cumberland Throw

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no they don't but they do have various investment portfolios. Difference is all of that money is the sports clubs, not a leagues club. They also made $4million+ profit which the NRL Panthers (or any other NRL club) aren't close to. The stadium deal they have is also very good in terms of what they make out of that.

As said membership helps alot, you have to pay an $80 membership just to stay on the waiting list for a season membership in years and years time!


As I said, WCE would not have earnings from gaming as pokies are all but banned in WA. But if you can tell me that Collingwood , Hawthorn , North Melbourne, Richmond, St kilda etc do not include any money from gambling revenue in the reporting of their football club earnings you are having a lend of yourself.

Think about this, Canterbury Bulldogs LC could probably afford to grant the Canterbury Bulldogs FC, $10 M a year if they had to. This would take Canterbury FC profit to say $5M bucks a year for example, who do you think would pay more tax the LC or the FC ????

It would be nice to say Canterbury FC made $5M bucks this year, suck on that AFL teams, but it doesn't make financial sense.... Making your NRL team run at break even or a small loss is essentially a tax minimisation scheme in NSW, not a real indicator of the health of the game.
 
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Y the hell are we even talking about this..

we all know these guys are worth so much more.

We will be restoring their dignity. Believe me.


And Im not joking.....I want our nrl boyz to be the highest paid

I want them in bigger houses and better cars, dating hotter girls, and running across drugs associated with higher classes of people....wait no....


you get it, and I want Union to look like a joke. When people talk about rugby I want them to say "You mean League, right?"
 

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