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NRL Rd 22 2025 - General Non-Warriors Thread

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Had an hour to fill in at work so listened to Ben Elias on the Paul Kent podcast from last Friday

FMD it is absolutely laughable, Benny running a complete hatchet on Benji while promoting Isaac Moses and Galvin as terrific people

Why was Galvin unhappy -“last season Benji put him up on a pedestal as the number 1 man, and the guy to build the club around into the future. Then Luai came in and he wasn’t number 1 anymore”.

You’re 19 with 20 games under your belt princess, you haven’t won 4 comps and Origins. He was also upset because Luai loves doing extras after training, and was grabbing Fainu to do them
 

JJ

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Had an hour to fill in at work so listened to Ben Elias on the Paul Kent podcast from last Friday

FMD it is absolutely laughable, Benny running a complete hatchet on Benji while promoting Isaac Moses and Galvin as terrific people

Why was Galvin unhappy -“last season Benji put him up on a pedestal as the number 1 man, and the guy to build the club around into the future. Then Luai came in and he wasn’t number 1 anymore”.

You’re 19 with 20 games under your belt princess, you haven’t won 4 comps and Origins. He was also upset because Luai loves doing extras after training, and was grabbing Fainu to do them
Benny was always a turd, just ask Mario

Guess family loyalty runs deeper than Balmain loyalty, guess that's fair enough
 

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I would like to know why Crighton wasnt charged considering the player failed the HIA and has a standown off 11 days.
Not sure what he could do, he got low etc…. Dunno, but regardless a failed HIA should permit the 18th man
 

Blair

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I would like to know why Crighton wasn't charged considering the player failed the HIA and has a standown off 11 days.
As I said in the other thread, if we must, let's beat their best team. 70,000+ at the game is possible. There'd be 3000 Warriors fans in that. It'll be challenging for us, for sure.
 
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Slap on the wrist, got them 2 points and more likely top 4 spot. Worth every cent and more to them.

Looks like I'll be in the minority for on this one, but I actually thought the penalty was a massive overreaction by the NRL fuelled by media and public hysteria.

To me, there were 3 key elements to it all.

1) Was it wrong - of course. Deserved a fine absolutely.

2) Was it deliberate - this is hugely debatable. Maybe something will surface later to suggest it was and if so, its a different conversation. But as of right now, while there's a shitload of speculation, there's no actual evidence of this specific act being deliberate. Brent Read did a write up yesterday of actions leading up to the incident, and based on what he's reporting, he didn't spot anything deliberate either.

3) Did it affect the outcome of the game - IMO, no. Not at all. Campbell had the opportunity to reset and restart his routine. At that stage the trainer was gone and any decent goalkicker puts it aside like they do all other distractions - like Cleary did when someone tossed something at him during a sideline kick in Vegas, or Douehi when he was being heckled from the sideline in a well circulated social media vid.

The NRL say the penalty considers previous behaviour, and ok that's fair enough. A bit of 'loading' was to be expected.

But to go from 10k/2 matches for deliberate gamesmanship, to 50k/5 matches for someone losing his bearings is massively excessive IMO, loading or otherwise.
 
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Blair

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If the trainer did run on deliberately then Penrith need to be careful. What I mean is they'll lose the goodwill of the people, they won't be seen as battling outsiders but cheating insiders.

As it is they seem like a government - a generally good government - that's been in too long. Unfortunately, they can't be voted out, but they can lose the support of the majority of neutral fans.
 
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Murraymob1

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Wow.

Felise Kaufusi got 2 games for breaking a guy's leg with plenty of prior history, this guy gets 5 games

That's a pretty clear sign that the NRL believe it was intentional. Which is as low as shark shit if it was.
No they got hit because of past offences same as a player who runs up points and then may get hit with a longer suspension than a player with no pints
 

Murraymob1

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The solution is change the rule moving forward already if a player crosses the line of a kicker it is a penalty.Change the rule to include officials trainers penalty in front
 

JJ

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Looks like I'll be in the minority for on this one, but I actually thought the penalty was a massive overreaction by the NRL fuelled by media and public hysteria.

To me, there were 3 key elements to it all.

1) Was it wrong - of course. Deserved a fine absolutely.

2) Was it deliberate - this is hugely debatable. Maybe something will surface later to suggest it was and if so, its a different conversation. But as of right now, while there's a shitload of speculation, there's no actual evidence of this specific act being deliberate. Brent Read did a write up yesterday of actions leading up to the incident, and based on what he's reporting, he didn't spot anything deliberate either.

3) Did it affect the outcome of the game - IMO, no. Not at all. Campbell had the opportunity to reset and restart his routine. At that stage the trainer was gone and any decent goalkicker puts it aside like they do all other distractions - like Cleary did when someone tossed something at him during a sideline kick in Vegas, or Douehi when he was being heckled from the sideline in a well circulated social media vid.

The NRL say the penalty considers previous behaviour, and ok that's fair enough. A bit of 'loading' was to be expected.

But to go from 10k/2 matches for deliberate gamesmanship, to 50k/5 matches for someone losing his bearings is massively excessive IMO, loading or otherwise.
yep, 100% on this...
 

Big Marn

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2nd breach notice so i think some sort of loading is warranted. Until they change the rules next year, there needs to be a massive deterrent for Penrith to stop the bullshit the remainder of this season even if the latest stunt was accidental. 10k is nothing. Im hoping they blinked a couple of times at 50k but they probably didnt.
 
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No they got hit because of past offences same as a player who runs up points and then may get hit with a longer suspension than a player with no pints
Yep, but Kaufusi also has a significant amount of past offenses. Much more than the Penrith trainer.

Trainers should just get the hell off the field. Our game v Brisbane at Suncorp, the Broncos trainer was stationed behind the ruck for a long time, barking orders and being way too involved. A message can go on through an interchange player, or in some way, but let the players get on with it. Water breaks when applicable, no worries. But for a trainer to be even putting a toe on the field of play (in-goal after a try is fine) let alone go where that one went, is insane
 

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