NRL Reserve grade?

[Perth Red]

It'd be interesting to know what the ARLC's motivation is for this push for NRL reserve grade sides and if they have a long term plan for it? They seem to be happy to throw cash at it so I guess they must have some motivations behind it. Wonder what they are?

 

[Perth Red]

What narrative ?

the qrl and nswrl were supposed to be disbanded once the commission was formed

both the qrl and nswrl have shown that they will stop moves that benefit rugby league if it hurts their power base

the qrl literally opposed the dolphins joining the nrl

and the less said about the nswrl fighting the nrl the better

you know the crl got disbanded don’t you ? Guess what nothing changed !

be careful what you wish for! If WA's experience is anything to go by then it has hardly moved the game forward having the ARLC take over state bodies.

 

[Timmah]

I’m guessing you never watched rugby league before 95 ?

having 3 grades of football on game day was the norm

yes we should lead by example and go back to the 90s, 80s and before. Sounds like great progress lol

anyway the whole point of this was to show you the nrl has already considered stadium availability.

I mean are you really trying to argue that even though they’ve considered stadium availability for 3 grades on one day, they haven’t for a National rg ?

lmao

Yes, because venue availability/suitability/willingness to do so is far different between a quarter of games than it is for all games. How is this not clear?

edit : you know players can warm up whilst another game is in progress right ?

If you've attended any games in the last decade you'd know that these warm-ups almost always take place on the field itself, and most venues don't have suitable space outside this. The only exceptions are Origin and the Grand Final. I can't see the clubs and players wanting to give this up tbh

 

[Wb1234]

yes we should lead by example and go back to the 90s, 80s and before. Sounds like great progress lol

Yes, because venue availability/suitability/willingness to do so is far different between a quarter of games than it is for all games. How is this not clear?

If you've attended any games in the last decade you'd know that these warm-ups almost always take place on the field itself, and most venues don't have suitable space outside this. The only exceptions are Origin and the Grand Final. I can't see the clubs and players wanting to give this up tbh

If you’ve been to many nrl grounds you will know they have other places than the ground itself

like take a visit to Wollongong there’s a whole training ground right behind the stadium !

players don’t have to warm up on the field either. That’s something you just made up. Especially not for an hour before a game starts

and yes rugby league has kind of lost its way

going back to what made the game great in the 90s is a good thing

anyway vlandys and gould think this is a good idea so I think they might have a bit of an idea about what’s good for rugby league

 

[Perth Red]

30mins between games should be enough for teams to warm up and fans to get to the loo and get a drink in before the next game starts. I wonder how many stadiums have 4 change rooms plus 2 womens change rooms though? (if you were going to run NRL reserves, NRLW then NRL game son same day)

 

[Timmah]

What narrative ?

the one you're trying to push about an NRG - the subject of this thread.

the qrl and nswrl were supposed to be disbanded once the commission was formed

According to who?

both the qrl and nswrl have shown that they will stop moves that benefit rugby league if it hurts their power base

I've noticed the NRL doing this (see: interfering in NSWRL board elections). Where is evidence of the inverse?

the qrl literally opposed the dolphins joining the nrl

As above, what?

and the less said about the nswrl fighting the nrl the better

*NRL fighting the NSWRL.

you know the crl got disbanded don’t you ? Guess what nothing changed !

They were absorbed into NSWRL, yes. Not sure your point here.

 

[Timmah]

If you’ve been to many nrl grounds you will know they have other places than the ground itself

like take a visit to Wollongong there’s a whole training ground right behind the stadium !

players don’t have to warm up on the field either. That’s something you just made up. Especially not for an hour before a game starts

and yes rugby league has kind of lost its way

going back to what made the game great in the 90s is a good thing

anyway vlandys and gould think this is a good idea so I think they might have a bit of an idea about what’s good for rugby league

your devotion to PVL is beyond words. wow

 

[Canard]

30mins between games should be enough for teams to warm up and fans to get to the loo and get a drink in before the next game starts. I wonder how many stadiums have 4 change rooms plus 2 womens change rooms though? (if you were going to run NRL reserves, NRLW then NRL game son same day)

Even that is turning up 2 hours before the main game starts. How would this work for the Fri 6pm game? And would any league fan in the audience watch the Reggies when they could pull out their mobile, or stay at the nearest pub, and watch the NRL game being played at the same time (as it will be for the majority of games)

It's just not feasible in the modern world, no other major sport plays prelim games anymore, its really a relic of a bygone era.

The modern fan wants to arrive in their seat 5mins before kick off with a beer and hand, and have to walk no more than 20m to get refreshments and have a piss.

 

[Canard]

If you’ve been to many nrl grounds you will know they have other places than the ground itself

like take a visit to Wollongong there’s a whole training ground right behind the stadium !

players don’t have to warm up on the field either. That’s something you just made up. Especially not for an hour before a game starts

and yes rugby league has kind of lost its way

going back to what made the game great in the 90s is a good thing

anyway vlandys and gould think this is a good idea so I think they might have a bit of an idea about what’s good for rugby league

That will do me.

 

[Canard]

The QRL spend their funding on far more than just the QCup, you aren't suddenly saving millions by relegating that comp to amateur status. (and I assume the same for NSWRL)

Unless you want to kill off all grassroots funding all together.

 

[Canard]

It'd be interesting to know what the ARLC's motivation is for this push for NRL reserve grade sides and if they have a long term plan for it? They seem to be happy to throw cash at it so I guess they must have some motivations behind it. Wonder what they are?

It isn't so they can create a semi-pro competition below it, thats for damn sure.

Its the same reason PVL pines for the Bears, nostalgia.

 

[Perth Red]

Even that is turning up 2 hours before the main game starts. How would this work for the Fri 6pm game? And would any league fan in the audience watch the Reggies when they could pull out their mobile, or stay at the nearest pub, and watch the NRL game being played at the same time (as it will be for the majority of games)

It's just not feasible in the modern world, no other major sport plays prelim games anymore, its really a relic of a bygone era.

The modern fan wants to arrive in their seat 5mins before kick off with a beer and hand, and have to walk no more than 20m to get refreshments and have a piss.

Totally agree, but it would seem our illustrious leaders dont!

 

[Perth Red]

Its the same reason PVL pines for the Bears, nostalgia.

Don't forget tribalism

 

[Iamback]

It’s not necessarily more expensive

the game is spending a tonne of money on the nswrl and qrl and there are no real questions being asked if this money could be spent more effectively and how much is being wasted by the qrl and nswrl on beaucracy or overlapping juniors

a more streamlined approach could result in massive savings for head office

Coaching staff
Extra players are the extra cost
For Warriors they are flying a squad to Sydney every 2nd week. As opposed to a few fringe guys

 

[Wb1234]

The QRL spend their funding on far more than just the QCup, you aren't suddenly saving millions by relegating that comp to amateur status. (and I assume the same for NSWRL)

Unless you want to kill off all grassroots funding all together.

We’ve had this discussion before

but go on be dramatic

it will be the end of rugby league as we know it

 

[Perth Red]

It'd be interesting to know how much these comps cost to run?

In 2021 out of the $63.3mill NRL spent on grassroots and development
$20.9mill went to the QRL and $20.3 mill went to NSWRL
$250k went to NZRL
Leaving $21.8mill for funding other states and NRL central development programs.

 

[Iamback]

It'd be interesting to know what the ARLC's motivation is for this push for NRL reserve grade sides and if they have a long term plan for it? They seem to be happy to throw cash at it so I guess they must have some motivations behind it. Wonder what they are?

No push back from the clubs would show it has merit

 

[Iamback]

It'd be interesting to know how much these comps cost to run?

In 2021 out of the $63.3mill NRL spent on grassroots and development
$20.9mill went to the QRL and $20.3 mill went to NSWRL
$250k went to NZRL
Leaving $21.8mill for funding other states and NRL central development programs.

Warriors are a good test case, They are going with no U20's side, I guess they plan to run the SG Ball guys in NSW Cup.

 

[Perth Red]

No push back from the clubs would show it has merit

Clubs are motivated by $'s. if NRL is paying Im sure they'll be happy to go along. 3 out of the 4 Qlnd clubs are against it though with only the Cowboys in favour.

 

[Iamback]

Clubs are motivated by $'s. if NRL is paying Im sure they'll be happy to go along. 3 out of the 4 Qlnd clubs are against it though with only the Cowboys in favour.

Clubs are selfish, They will do what is best for them over money