NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

[Timmah]

They need to tell people what they are after if they want the public on side. Instead of just bullet points

This is just bizarre. The bullet points are what they're after. Just because they're not presented on your perfect format doesn't make them any less valid.

 

[Timmah]

They haven't provided any info, Just the parts they aren't happy with

They've literally presented what they want out of the negotiations. Multiple times.

 

[Iamback]

They've literally presented what they want out of the negotiations. Multiple times.

They aren't happy with 12 months injury cover when they retire. So what do they propose?

 

[MugaB]

They've literally presented what they want out of the negotiations. Multiple times.

All those bullet points paid for?
Well the salary cap just went up... 2.6 mil congratulations you have that money to pay for it all now

 

[Timmah]

Not sure how maternity leave would work in the NRLW when its still year to year contracts

A multi-year CBA would likely allow multi-year contracts, which I think is kind of the point?

 

[Timmah]

They aren't happy with 12 months injury cover when they retire. So what do they propose?

A new medical support fund, so related surgeries are covered well into retirement.

If you think the RLPA haven't presented this in a more detailed fashion to the ARLC during negotiations then I can't help you. The public isn't owed detail beyond that (and frankly I doubt many would read it)

 

[bad boy bubby]

I have mentioned Burgess.

GI was medically retired, rightful his injuries should if been treated.

He was then well enough to play in ESL, Yet people on here think NRL should continue to cover him.

There needs to be a cut off somewhere.

Players think 12 months isn't enough, I am happy to back their judgement. So what do they think is good enough? Get that answer and the CBA may get somewhere

He is in the category of having the injury treated whilst playing the game, if it is the same injury then yes it should be covered for the extent of his life time though the NRL "workers comp".

After the player has retired giving them 12 months to get their body sorted is fair.
Nowhere else in Australia would you be covered by insurance from a previous employer after you have left them, for an injury that wasn't there beforehand.

 

[Timmah]

All those bullet points paid for?
Well the salary cap just went up... 2.6 mil congratulations you have that money to pay for it all now

The game's revenue went up too, and is projected to, is it not? The players aren't entitled to an ongoing percentage increase of that?

 

[Iamback]

This is just bizarre. The bullet points are what they're after. Just because they're not presented on your perfect format doesn't make them any less valid.

So they walk into to the NRL and say we want changes to the injured player fund.

NRL goes yes. CBA is then agreed too?

They would have a proposal they have submitted. The details in that would show if it is reasonable or not.

As a fan, I can support a strike if their reasonable requests are being ignored. Isn't that the purpose of the social media campaign?

 

[Iamback]

He is in the category of having the injury treated whilst playing the game, if it is the same injury then yes it should be covered for the extent of his life time though the NRL "workers comp".

After the player has retired giving them 12 months to get their body sorted is fair.
Nowhere else in Australia would you be covered by insurance from a previous employer after you have left them, for an injury that wasn't there beforehand.

There would be some cases where the player struggles, Andrew Fifita is going to be a recent example. He should get all the help he needs it is a no brainer but a blanket rule doesn't work

 

[Ozzi_78]

As soon as this impacts the season proper then the shit will hit the fan and I guarantee it will be directed at the rlpa not the nrl.

 

[Iamback]

A new medical support fund, so related surgeries are covered well into retirement.

If you think the RLPA haven't presented this in a more detailed fashion to the ARLC during negotiations then I can't help you. The public isn't owed detail beyond that (and frankly I doubt many would read it)

Yet the public needs to see it on Social media?

 

[Timmah]

Yet the public needs to see it on Social media?

I'm confused, do you want all the detail, or no detail?

 

[Iamback]

As soon as this impacts the season proper then the shit will hit the fan and I guarantee it will be directed at the rlpa not the nrl.

Hence my questions of a middle ground, The requests from RLPA seem reasonable but the NRL don't have endless streams of money. When a middle ground is found the CBA can be sorted

 

[MugaB]

The game's revenue went up too, and is projected to, is it not? The players aren't entitled to an ongoing percentage increase of that?

Well cant the overlords at the arlc get an increase too? Or atleast put that into grassroots more over, or build more assets
.. if this was all about money the conversation is over, they got an all record high.. this about keeping that money, and getting more to pay for shit that they could have individually paid themselves... the cap didn't have to go so high, all this could have been sorted out had Clint Newton not be so presumptuous to call out the ARLC months ago, then the whole avoidance from both parties at the world cup... seriously fkn childish... the world cup happen once every 4 years, fkn let the bosses enjoy it ffs

 

[bad boy bubby]

There would be some cases where the player struggles, Andrew Fifita is going to be a recent example. He should get all the help he needs it is a no brainer but a blanket rule doesn't work

He is getting his injuries treated within the 12 months allowed. What happens with those injuries should be able to be treated for the rest of his life under the NRL's workers comp.
Any injury that occurs after that, and wasn't there whilst he was playing rugby league should not be.
This is the blanket rule on how Insurance companies, iCare etc work.
Are you saying that NRL players would be treated different to us normal beings?

 

[Iamback]

I'm confused, do you want all the detail, or no detail?

On the surface to me it looks like the RLPA are looking for public support. For either pressuring the NRL or incase they strike.

So ONCE the decision got made they need to share all the details or they seem greedy or unreasonable.

 

[Iamback]

He is getting his injuries treated within the 12 months allowed. What happens with those injuries should be able to be treated for the rest of his life under the NRL's workers comp.
Any injury that occurs after that, and wasn't there whilst he was playing rugby league should not be.
This is the blanket rule on how Insurance companies, iCare etc work.
Are you saying that NRL players would be treated different to us normal beings?

Nope not at all, Seems to me players are expecting that though

 

[Timmah]

but the NRL don't have endless streams of money

If the administration are going to keep trumpeting revenue increases and profit, then they're telling the fans and players they kinda do.

Well cant the overlords at the arlc get an increase too? Or atleast put that into grassroots more over, or build more assets
.. if this was all about money the conversation is over, they got an all record high.. this about keeping that money, and getting more to pay for shit that they could have individually paid themselves... the cap didn't have to go so high, all this could have been sorted out had Clint Newton not be so presumptuous to call out the ARLC months ago, then the whole avoidance from both parties at the world cup... seriously fkn childish... the world cup happen once every 4 years, fkn let the bosses enjoy it ffs

Reading through the RLPA's stuff it seems most of the sticking points are about protecting the players on the edges, not the ones earning the most coin.

"let the bosses enjoy it" why do they need defending?

 

[bad boy bubby]

Nope not at all, Seems to me players are expecting that though

Exactly. They want to be treated differently from the rest of us, and expect us to side with them.
They are obviously hearing from ex-players and "how hard they are done by"
Welcome to the real world to them.