NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

[Captain Apollo]

NRL strikes back at claims it rejected pregnancy policy in CBA negotiations

NRL responds to ‘incorrect and misleading’ claims over pregnancy policy

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Iamback]

2 years pregnancy cover...So out of touch the players are

 

[Bazal]

There is a range of demands from the RLPA, not just the 12 month medical cover, theres the rules changes and seat on the board, regarding them, theres the expansion to 12 NRLW team, wtf why are they arguing that? The more teams the more participation in womens league, more money to go to the cap spent (oh but less teams means, more money in their current players pockets) fmd neanderthals are running the assylum...
We finally have an ARLC that has gone and streamlined costs in rugby league and not just pissed away revenue like they used to, finally expanded to a 17th NRL team (which was way overdue in SEQ, should have had 4 clubs there by now since the crushers folded) and expanded the womens game to now 10 teams (with a possible warriors return, and penrith womens comp gearing up on the way, souths basically set up, and dolphins are said to be included soon too, as part of their licence agreement) these peanuts, are focused on lining their wallets and are trying to drive the direction of expansion and funds allocated... f**k that, stick to your lane, kick goals, tackle, run and pass, leave the thinking to the commission

Sure but I'm not saying everything they want is reasonable either. And honestly during bargaining it's normally not. That's how union pricks make 'concessions'

 

[Bazal]

Not at all more the seat making the decisions is the problem with their request
As for the medical assistance fund. Does any sport have unlimited cover post retirement?

Is there any suggestion they want it to be unlimited? I actually haven't read that. Of course, workers comp is in many ways. Eg NSW is either within six months of the injury OR the diagnosis of the injury, meaning if you damage something minor and it turns into a major issue five years later you're still covered. So is there any suggestion for example that it won't work that way?

I think the issue here is people's opinions of NRL players being overpaid, they can't get past it despite the fact that most are on average or below and have a career measured in dozens of games

 

[MugaB]

Sure but I'm not saying everything they want is reasonable either. And honestly during bargaining it's normally not. That's how union pricks make 'concessions'

Well thats the problem now, any stupid idea to halt any type of expansion or rule change will now result in a "possible strike action" in every negotiation from now on... the best the game can do now is give in to the demands, but assure that the players loudest and clint newton get the arse, to hinder any future resistance next CBA negotiation, as this has turned ugly for selfish reasons, not anything thats relevant to the actual CBA

 

[MugaB]

Is there any suggestion they want it to be unlimited? I actually haven't read that. Of course, workers comp is in many ways. Eg NSW is either within six months of the injury OR the diagnosis of the injury, meaning if you damage something minor and it turns into a major issue five years later you're still covered. So is there any suggestion for example that it won't work that way?

I think the issue here is people's opinions of NRL players being overpaid, they can't get past it despite the fact that most are on average or below and have a career measured in dozens of games

Players are overpaid, you are talking about the fringe players that fade away into very early retirement after not getting picked up/shipped off to ESL/or lower grade stalwarts who make up the lower end of the 30 man roster.. yes they should have benifits too, but you can be in those 12 games you mentioned, then get a real job that doesn't involve bashing into an opposition player... their will always be fringe players...no matter the salary cap, there will always be that bench guy that never gets the starting role... maybe the rule should be for those who don't play more than 12 games a season, or to the discretion of the clubs/arlc on who is covered by an extended injury cover, certainly not the RLPA, fmd

 

[Victoire]

Players are overpaid, you are talking about the fringe players that fade away into very early retirement after not getting picked up/shipped off to ESL/or lower grade stalwarts who make up the lower end of the 30 man roster.. yes they should have benifits too, but you can be in those 12 games you mentioned, then get a real job that doesn't involve bashing into an opposition player... their will always be fringe players...no matter the salary cap, there will always be that bench guy that never gets the starting role... maybe the rule should be for those who don't play more than 12 games a season, or to the discretion of the clubs/arlc on who is covered by an extended injury cover, certainly not the RLPA, fmd

ok boomer

 

[MugaB]

ok boomer

Thanks Potato

 

[Bazal]

Players are overpaid, you are talking about the fringe players that fade away into very early retirement after not getting picked up/shipped off to ESL/or lower grade stalwarts who make up the lower end of the 30 man roster.. yes they should have benifits too, but you can be in those 12 games you mentioned, then get a real job that doesn't involve bashing into an opposition player... their will always be fringe players...no matter the salary cap, there will always be that bench guy that never gets the starting role... maybe the rule should be for those who don't play more than 12 games a season, or to the discretion of the clubs/arlc on who is covered by an extended injury cover, certainly not the RLPA, fmd

Again though, is it being argued that the fund be at the RLPAs discretion?

I think the fact some players are overpaid clouds the argument. What about the players that fade away but have Chris Lawrence hip and struggle to work a 'real job'? That's the issue. It's easy to build in a means test

 

[bad boy bubby]

If a 'normal' person has Income Protection Insurance, that covers them in case they get an injury that puts them out of work for however long they choose.
This used to be very hard for a professional sports person to do. It isn't anymore.

Income Protection | Professional Sports Players - CCA Financial Planners

ccafp.com.au

If the players are looking for extra protection then maybe they should be looking at what's on offer in IPI, just like the rest of us can do.
I cannot say it enough, I do not think the players are being given the best information.

In regards to IPI, this is a personal choice, if they choose not to pay for it, then so be it.

 

[Bazal]

If a 'normal' person has Income Protection Insurance, that covers them in case they get an injury that puts them out of work for however long they choose.
This used to be very hard for a professional sports person to do. It isn't anymore.

Income Protection | Professional Sports Players - CCA Financial Planners

ccafp.com.au

If the players are looking for extra protection then maybe they should be looking at what's on offer in IPI, just like the rest of us can do.
I cannot say it enough, I do not think the players are being given the best information.

In regards to IPI, this is a personal choice, if they choose not to pay for it, then so be it.

Another fair point, but I think the issue again is the bottom half of the scale who might wash out with no prospects and serious injuries?

Ultimately I feel like the goal is to give NRL players access to everyday benefits. Yeah they get paid a shit tonne if they make it, but I think people miss that it doesn't always mean they get the same benefits as Bill McMiner with his T-Rex arms. It blows my mind that they don't really have access to workers comp in the same way we do and if this fund acts in the same way it's tough to argue IMO

 

[bad boy bubby]

Another fair point, but I think the issue again is the bottom half of the scale who might wash out with no prospects and serious injuries?

Ultimately I feel like the goal is to give NRL players access to everyday benefits. Yeah they get paid a shit tonne if they make it, but I think people miss that it doesn't always mean they get the same benefits as Bill McMiner with his T-Rex arms. It blows my mind that they don't really have access to workers comp in the same way we do and if this fund acts in the same way it's tough to argue IMO

They have a good deal, maybe even better, than workers comp whilst they are playing.
If they get injured whilst not at 'work' they are still covered by the club for all medical expenses and recovery. Impossible to get form Workers comp.
We only get workers comp while we are at work.
They are different. For them to be complaining about this is the one thing that gets to me.
But I digress, I feel for them as I think they've been misguided in this situation.
If they take on an IPI then Nicho Hynes would not be using Aaron Booth as an example, and also not saying the general public don't understand.
The general public have to make decsiions about their own personal insurances and life choices every day.
Maybe the players should not be talking about such things, as to me they come across as very ignorant.

 

[Perth Red]

I thought they couldn't diagnose CTE except by autopsy.

It’s getting to the point with mri and pet scanning that we can be pretty confident in differentiating CTE from other dementias. CTE now has its own medical diagnostic criteria.
this will only Improve with the research currently under way and ongoing monitoring of brain changes in ex players.

 

[Perth Red]

Someone needs to ask Abdo why they want to hold the purse strings when other sports hand that responsibility to the players union.

“However, Abdo once again believes that the NRL should have control of where those funds are allocated, not the RLPA.”

 

[AlwaysGreen]

It’s getting to the point with mri and pet scanning that we can be pretty confident in differentiating CTE from other dementias. CTE now has its own medical diagnostic criteria.
this will only Improve with the research currently under way and ongoing monitoring of brain changes in ex players.

Dr AFL Red, medical expert.

 

[Pneuma]

Dr AFL Red, medical expert.

He really is a know everything about everything type of guy. Except he’s usually wrong.

 

[Maximus]

Not at all more the seat making the decisions is the problem with their request
As for the medical assistance fund. Does any sport have unlimited cover post retirement?

Where have NRL players requested unlimited coverage?

NFL players who were on a roster for at least 3 years have medical cover for 5 years post retirement, and after the 5 years they can pay a yearly fee to stay on the insurance plan for the rest of their life.

MLB players on a roster for at least 1 day receive unlimited cover for 5 years, and then can buy in for unlimited cover for the rest of their life.

AFL players have cover for the rest of their life, and can get reimbursed $6-8000 for medical costs

12 months is ridiculous

 

[Perth Red]

Dr AFL Red, medical expert.

Actually I am a dementia expert lol

 

[Maximus]

Dr AFL Red, medical expert.

He really is a know everything about everything type of guy. Except he’s usually wrong.

You don't need to be an expert to be able to read what the experts are saying

MRI’s May be Initial Window into CTE Diagnosis in Living; Approach May Shave Years Off Diagnosis | Chobanian & Avedisian School of Medicine

www.bumc.bu.edu

But you do look like a moron when you try to talk shit about someone when they are correct.

 

[Perth Red]

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You don't need to be an expert to be able to read what the experts are saying

MRI’s May be Initial Window into CTE Diagnosis in Living; Approach May Shave Years Off Diagnosis | Chobanian & Avedisian School of Medicine

www.bumc.bu.edu

But you do look like a moron when you try to talk shit about someone when they are correct.

I’ve been a dementia specialist for 33 years, on this one I do know my sht lol

but yes he does look a moron most of the time and I dont even need to read his posts to know that.