NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

[MugaB]

Just curious, why do you have Paul Crawley as your avatar?

 

[Perth Red]

Of course 9 and fox are pi$#ed off, they've lost a large part of thier content through no fault of thier own.

Give it a week or 2 and Fox and 9 will be negotiating a reduced deal like they did in Covid.

I’m sure pistol Pete will make sure they dont catch a cold!

 

[Maximus]

Has the player performance increased by 80%? If not, then maybe the part of the business responsible should get the bulk of the increase.

Players are taking the piss.

How much of the tv deal do you think the NRL would get without the players? The players are the product, they are the ones responsible for the increase.

 

[Diesel]

It was refreshing not to have the players talk at HT/FT tonight

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Id want to see what is the norm in other equivalent level sports. I know some sports the PA controls the funds, invests them, dishes them out etc etc. The players would argue their money, their control I'd suggest.

It's a good point, I'm not sure what other sports do. I do share the concern of the NRL though, they want to pour money into funds that are actually going to make a difference, they don't want to turn around in 10 years and see it get pissed up against the wall

 

[siv]

How much of the tv deal do you think the NRL would get without the players? The players are the product, they are the ones responsible for the increase.

While players are important

We need to let the players play and Admins admin

otherwise you will end end up with

Retired players becoming admins

And the cycle repeats in a few years.

Newtown already has been too long retired to represent the players. Once young players realise this, get near retirement and want his job he will get the boot

 

[Wb1234]

How does afl managed to sort out its cba and club funding without threats of strikes or super league

I suspect their stakeholders have a greater sense of responsibility to their game

annoying media rights holders as we are trying to negotiate our next tv deal isn’t the smartest thing the players could be doing

 

[Wb1234]

It’s not about the money

 

[Perth Red]

It's a good point, I'm not sure what other sports do. I do share the concern of the NRL though, they want to pour money into funds that are actually going to make a difference, they don't want to turn around in 10 years and see it get pissed up against the wall

its the players money, its up to them. Like the clubs. I dont see the NRL wanting to control how the clubs are spending the $290mil a year they are getting from the NRL? I can see why the players are pssed that the NRL doesnt trust them with their own money, its very paternalistic.

 

[MugaB]

It’s not about the money

But it very much is Christian....
Btw did you see newcastle lost... penrith had no one!

 

[Perth Red]

How does afl managed to sort out its cba and club funding without threats of strikes or super league

I suspect their stakeholders have a greater sense of responsibility to their game

annoying media rights holders as we are trying to negotiate our next tv deal isn’t the smartest thing the players could be doing

In the AFL the PA is given the money and left to control it.

 

[MugaB]

its the players money, its up to them. Like the clubs. I dont see the NRL wanting to control how the clubs are spending the $290mil a year they are getting from the NRL? I can see why the players are pssed that the NRL doesnt trust them with their own money, its very paternalistic.

Admin should be admining... the players are being paid, yet they want control over all of it.. ffs how are not getting this... what business lets the workers decide on the accounting structure of said business...
They want all these funds for retired players and injuries, yet cant pay their own medical

 

[Perth Red]

Admin should be admining... the players are being paid, yet they want control over all of it.. ffs how are not getting this... what business lets the workers decide on the accounting structure of said business...
They want all these funds for retired players and injuries, yet cant pay their own medical

What business pays it staff then dictates to staff how they spend their money? End of the day this is the players entitlements and money and they should decide how it is managed. If they want NRL to control it fine, but sounds like they want their representative body to control it, which is also fine BECAUSE ITS THEIR MONEY.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

its the players money, its up to them. Like the clubs. I dont see the NRL wanting to control how the clubs are spending the $290mil a year they are getting from the NRL? I can see why the players are pssed that the NRL doesnt trust them with their own money, its very paternalistic.

Agree on the money to the clubs, not how it is spent but at least have some KPI's tied to it. Re: the players, I could be wrong, but aren't we talking about funds the NRL is investing in? I would want to make sure it's properly invested too.

 

[Maximus]

Admin should be admining... the players are being paid, yet they want control over all of it.. ffs how are not getting this... what business lets the workers decide on the accounting structure of said business...
They want all these funds for retired players and injuries, yet cant pay their own medical

The players have 50% of control over their retirement benefits in the NFL. Why should the NRL players not get the same?

 

[Iamback]

What business pays it staff then dictates to staff how they spend their money? End of the day this is the players entitlements and money and they should decide how it is managed. If they want NRL to control it fine, but sounds like they want their representative body to control it, which is also fine BECAUSE ITS THEIR MONEY.

Every company does this.

How many people on here can just go to their employer and say I doing a 1st aid course or something and they just hand over cash?

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Perth Pelican, Industrial relations expert.

 

[Perth Red]

Agree on the money to the clubs, not how it is spent but at least have some KPI's tied to it. Re: the players,

I could be wrong, but aren't we talking about funds the NRL is investing in? I would want to make sure it's properly invested too.

No we are talking about the players entitlements they have negotiated and is their money. The NRL isnt "investing' in anything any more than the Ch9 BS when they were spouting about how much they'd "invested" in the game that they felt had been wasted.
Your employer doesn't dictate to you which superann fund they will contribute your money into, this is no different.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

No we are talking about the players entitlements they have negotiated and is their money. The NRL isnt "investing' in anything any more than the Ch9 BS when they were spouting about how much they'd "invested" in the game that they felt had been wasted.
Your employer doesn't dictate to you which superann fund they will contribute your money into, this is no different.

Ok, if that's the case then fair enough

 

[Captain Apollo]

The players have 50% of control over their retirement benefits in the NFL. Why should the NRL players not get the same?

Thing is, based on what has been made publicly available, the RLPA want the players to have 100% control over the retirement fund. Bit of a difference.