NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

[Maximus]

Every company does this.

How many people on here can just go to their employer and say I doing a 1st aid course or something and they just hand over cash?

Never heard of corporate credit cards?

Also, having been an internal accountant at multiple companies over the years, every single one of them. Each department has an agreed budget for the year. It's their choice what they spend it on.

 

[Maximus]

Thing is, based on what has been made publicly available, the RLPA want the players to have 100% control over the retirement fund. Bit of a difference.

What is the source of that information?

 

[Wb1234]

But it very much is Christian....
Btw did you see newcastle lost... penrith had no one!

Damn panthers that 3peat is sure on the cards

after the panthers blues contingent have to cop the blame for a dud nsw coach they will have every incentive now

plus Nathan has had a nice rest too

In the AFL the PA is given the money and left to control it.

That’s just one sticking point

plus nrl players have been better looked after since covid

players and clubs have a responsibility to the game as well as their own selfish interests

 

[Captain Apollo]

What is the source of that information?

It has been mentioned a few time.

Most recently, from this article (https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...n/news-story/938be2f85f40eb970fac9ad4cc11bfeb) -

“What we haven’t agreed to as the commission has said is because this is a significant amount of money there needs to be agreement over the governance of these funds.

“I think the Commission as the independent body that administers the game has the responsibility to ensure that these funds are appropriately administered.

The quotes are from Andrew Abdo.

James Hooper mentions it in an article published yesterday (https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/34213384ee0036839172b0d0dd3acc05) -

The retirement funds and the injury funds the RLPA is correctly pursuing have also been agreed upon – the only sticking point is the Australian Rugby League Commission also wants eyes over how the money is invested.

Seems fair enough. Not for the RLPA.

I know Hooper has agendas, and Abdo is talking from his side, but i can recall reading this kind of stuff a number of times earlier this year. Such as in the following article published by the Sydney Morning Herald in January of this year -

‘I’m not that stupid’: Why some players aren’t sticking their heads up in NRL pay dispute

The CBA standoff is like listening to the Hatfields and McCoys. And if both sides don’t start conceding inches, this is a battle that will never end.

www.smh.com.au

‘We can’t send the game bankrupt’: Abdo fires shot over NRL player dispute

NRL boss Andrew Abdo has opened up about the hostile and protracted negotiations that have recently led to players boycotting official NRL events.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Perth Red]

Damn panthers that 3peat is sure on the cards

after the panthers blues contingent have to cop the blame for a dud nsw coach they will have every incentive now

plus Nathan has had a nice rest too

That’s just one sticking point

plus nrl players have been better looked after since covid

players and clubs have a responsibility to the game as well as their own selfish interests

As do the ARLC, but it hasnt stopped them slashing over $45mill out of grassroots funding over the last 2 years!

 

[Perth Red]

“What we haven’t agreed to as the commission has said is because this is a significant amount of money there needs to be agreement over the governance of these funds.
“I think the Commission as the independent body that administers the game has the responsibility to ensure that these funds are appropriately administered.

Thats the real sticking point in all this. Players want to control their own money, ARLC wants to keep control. Not like we havent seen this numerous times from the ARLC in recent years, NSWRL court battles being a case in example.

 

[Maximus]

It has been mentioned a few time.

Most recently, from this article (https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...n/news-story/938be2f85f40eb970fac9ad4cc11bfeb) -



The quotes are from Andrew Abdo.

James Hooper mentions it in an article published yesterday (https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/34213384ee0036839172b0d0dd3acc05) -



I know Hooper has agendas, and Abdo is talking from his side, but i can recall reading this kind of stuff a number of times earlier this year. Such as in the following article published by the Sydney Morning Herald in January of this year -

‘I’m not that stupid’: Why some players aren’t sticking their heads up in NRL pay dispute

The CBA standoff is like listening to the Hatfields and McCoys. And if both sides don’t start conceding inches, this is a battle that will never end.

www.smh.com.au

‘We can’t send the game bankrupt’: Abdo fires shot over NRL player dispute

NRL boss Andrew Abdo has opened up about the hostile and protracted negotiations that have recently led to players boycotting official NRL events.

www.smh.com.au

So nothing from the players demanding 100% control? The Abdo quote seems to be suggesting that the commission get full control. The Hooper quote is quoting nobody. In the older articles, there is a statement from Abdo claiming it.

We are getting 1 side of the story, and people are presuming it's correct because they want it to be.

 

[Perth Red]

Heres an example of how the AFLPA have full control and manage the money on behalf of the players

Equity Trustees rewarded with $150m AFL players fund mandate

The manager has been involved with the AFL Players Association since 2012, and won its new mandate after a competitive tender.

citywire.com

 

[AlwaysGreen]

No ones gives a f**k about flogball cretin.

 

[Iamback]

Never heard of corporate credit cards?

Also, having been an internal accountant at multiple companies over the years, every single one of them. Each department has an agreed budget for the year. It's their choice what they spend it on.

Yep and you need to provide receipts with that card.

That is slightly different, ex employees don't have access to the company education fund for example

 

[Iamback]

Heres an example of how the AFLPA have full control and manage the money on behalf of the players

Equity Trustees rewarded with $150m AFL players fund mandate

The manager has been involved with the AFL Players Association since 2012, and won its new mandate after a competitive tender.

citywire.com

That says nothing about whether the AFL has a say over the money. Just the firm who is managing it

 

[Wb1234]

As do the ARLC, but it hasnt stopped them slashing over $45mill out of grassroots funding over the last 2 years!

You don’t think the extra 36 million pa clubs gets plus the medical and other funds influence this ?

 

[Iamback]

So nothing from the players demanding 100% control? The Abdo quote seems to be suggesting that the commission get full control. The Hooper quote is quoting nobody. In the older articles, there is a statement from Abdo claiming it.

We are getting 1 side of the story, and people are presuming it's correct because they want it to be.

Read the Statement RLPA put out. They mention it as an issue wanting 75% or 100% still is more than NFL players get

 

[Wb1234]

As do the ARLC, but it hasnt stopped them slashing over $45mill out of grassroots funding over the last 2 years!

 

[bad boy bubby]

I thought the problem right now is the money being distributed to international test players.
Why is that other sport being brought into it?
They don't play tests or international games.
How could there be a comparison?
Just another excuse to bring them into the conversation.

 

[Perth Red]

I thought the problem right now is the money being distributed to international test players.
Why is that other sport being brought into it?
They don't play tests or international games.
How could there be a comparison?
Just another excuse to bring them into the conversation.

thats a minor issue, control of the players funds is the biggie.

 

[Perth Red]

eh? whats that got to do with NRL player CBA you gronk?

 

[Maximus]

Read the Statement RLPA put out. They mention it as an issue wanting 75% or 100% still is more than NFL players get

Where does it talk about 75% or 100% in here

Players Respond to Stalled CBA Negotiations - RLPA

After meeting with over 50 player leaders from all clubs last night (Tuesday), players have unanimously decided that they must take action as a result of the NRL’s unreasonable CBA ultimatum. In response to our fair and reasonable settlement proposal, where players made key concessions to...

www.rlpa.com.au

 

[Clarkent]

Where does it talk about 75% or 100% in here

Players Respond to Stalled CBA Negotiations - RLPA

After meeting with over 50 player leaders from all clubs last night (Tuesday), players have unanimously decided that they must take action as a result of the NRL’s unreasonable CBA ultimatum. In response to our fair and reasonable settlement proposal, where players made key concessions to...

www.rlpa.com.au

I haven't heard anything about 75% or 100% at all from the RLPA. I watched newton's interview earlier on today and he mentioned the players wants to have a seat at the table when the nrl wants to make a decision about adding more games every year etc but the nrl are denying them that chance. When Braith asked Vlandy what the RLPA wanted that the nrl are denying them he completely dodged the question and bought up the international games funds to make it look like the players are greedy

 

[Wb1234]

eh? whats that got to do with NRL player CBA you gronk?

My apologies

I thought this was the hull is a dump thread