NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

[Wb1234]

Didn't Clint say on triple M last week he'd step aside if it ment getting the deal done ?....but now he won't step aside :/

Exactly

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Newton did the RLPA a disservice with the players media ban. Only thing it achieves is you’ve given yourself no chance of getting them on side and turning the heat up on V’landys and Abdo.

I also don’t think either side know how unions work. Union demands X. Bosses offer Z. After much sabre rattling in the press and a few Crownies over Yum Cha, both sides agree on Y. Move on.

 

[Perth Red]

Wow Clint is angry

If I was nrl I’d want to stand down their ceo and lawyer and in return just get the hand puppet stood down, that’s a win for nrl lol

he doesn’t want an independent mediator that the rlpa have said they will abide by decision of,hmmmmmmm?

 

[Perth Red]

This is a personal crusade by Newton - PVL and AA do not stand to gain anything financially - they are just trying to do the right thing by the game, long term, whilst giving the players a better deal than ever before.
Newton and some senior RLPA members are however pushing agendas for their own personal gain.
PVL attempting to get the senior players and a different NRL executive around the table is of course a good option - but Newton of course doesn’t want his nose out of joint.
The NRL need to play hardball - put a deadline on them, take it or leave it, give them a ‘fire and re-hire’ ultimatum - if they don’t agree to the new proposed CBA, go down the fire-re-hire route which would include scrapping the RLPA funding, scrap the ‘partners in the game/profit sharing’ concept and just agree a basic salary cap number (at the same values being offered). I guarantee over 95% would still stick around for the ‘re-hire’ option - where else can they all make the same money, doing something they love?

They‘re trying to do the “best thing” in their opinion. That’s a massive difference. The history of workers rights being destroyed is littered with such statements.

 

[Perth Red]

Newton did the RLPA a disservice with the players media ban. Only thing it achieves is you’ve given yourself no chance of getting them on side and turning the heat up on V’landys and Abdo.

I also don’t think either side know how unions work. Union demands X. Bosses offer Z. After much sabre rattling in the press and a few Crownies over Yum Cha, both sides agree on Y. Move on.

It’s funny, and somewhat alarming in this day and age of lack of critical thinking, how people have bought into the nrl and media strategy to demonise newton and make it all about him! Never ceases to amaze me the naivety of the plebeians.

Have you seen who is on the rlpa board? No decisions are being made without the input of the board and a significant number of players reps.

 

[Wb1234]

If I was nrl I’d want to stand down their ceo and lawyer and in return just get the hand puppet stood down, that’s a win for nrl lol

he doesn’t want an independent mediator that the rlpa have said they will abide by decision of,hmmmmmmm?

He’s said he’s happy to personally meet Dce and other player leaders

poor Clint is afraid he will lose his power base

what’s the harm in letting vlandys try and solve it by dealing with the player leaders directly

 

[Perth Red]

He’s said he’s happy to personally meet Dce and other player leaders

poor Clint is afraid he will lose his power base

what’s the harm in letting vlandys try and solve it by dealing with the player leaders directly

Lol, yeh id rather be dealing with the players than the people who actually know their jobs in this, like the ceo and lawyer! Maybe they should counter and suggest they meet with the club chairmen to negotiate it and cut out the commision? Would make as much sense!

 

[Diesel]

It’s funny, and somewhat alarming in this day and age of lack of critical thinking, how people have bought into the nrl and media strategy to demonise newton and make it all about him! Never ceases to amaze me the naivety of the plebeians.

Have you seen who is on the rlpa board? No decisions are being made without the input of the board and a significant number of players reps.

All this PVL hate isn’t healthy.
Hopefully you can get a WA team soon

 

[Pneuma]

Lol, yeh id rather be dealing with the players than the people who actually know their jobs in this, like the ceo and lawyer! Maybe they should counter and suggest they meet with the club chairmen to negotiate it and cut out the commision? Would make as much sense!

That’s a lot of hate there.

 

[Perth Red]

All this PVL hate isn’t healthy.
Hopefully you can get a WA team soon

More dislike than hate, very few people I hate and all of those I’ve met and are deserving of it.
Let’s hope so.

good deflection from the point by the way to the poster, so LU. Well done. What was I saying about lack of critical thinking skills?

 

[jasonstevenswedgie]

More dislike than hate, very few people I hate and all of those I’ve met and are deserving of it.
Let’s hope so.

good deflection from the point by the way to the poster, so LU. Well done. What was I saying about lack of critical thinking skills?

newton said on triple mmm he is happy for himself and abdo to step aside if it meant getting the deal done. he said it is more important than him.
this is then offered to him and he says no
wonder why there is no deal????? prob because you cant take newton at his word, makes you wonder how many times he has agreed to other things then changed his mind.

 

[Iamback]

newton said on triple mmm he is happy for himself and abdo to step aside if it meant getting the deal done. he said it is more important than him.
this is then offered to him and he says no
wonder why there is no deal????? prob because you cant take newton at his word, makes you wonder how many times he has agreed to other things then changed his mind.

Correct. He was asked directly. No reason Buhrer and the players can't step in.

There would be reasons behind NRL requests it can't hurt players to hear it, then put their side to it and meet in the middle

 

[Wb1234]

Lol, yeh id rather be dealing with the players than the people who actually know their jobs in this, like the ceo and lawyer! Maybe they should counter and suggest they meet with the club chairmen to negotiate it and cut out the commision? Would make as much sense!

Either the players know exactly what the outstanding issues are or Clint has overstepped the mark

obviously when the players see how useless he is he may be out of a job

 

[Iamback]

It’s funny, and somewhat alarming in this day and age of lack of critical thinking, how people have bought into the nrl and media strategy to demonise newton and make it all about him! Never ceases to amaze me the naivety of the plebeians.

Have you seen who is on the rlpa board? No decisions are being made without the input of the board and a significant number of players reps.

On the flip side what does the game have to gain from shafting the players?

There is a middle ground here, seems PVL has stepped in for Abdo. Similar needs to happen from the players side

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Newton has as much integrity and clue as AFL Red.

Love to know how much Newton is fleecing the players.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

It’s funny, and somewhat alarming in this day and age of lack of critical thinking, how people have bought into the nrl and media strategy to demonise newton and make it all about him! Never ceases to amaze me the naivety of the plebeians.

Have you seen who is on the rlpa board? No decisions are being made without the input of the board and a significant number of players reps.

Absolutely but Newton brought a lot of that on himself. Fans supporting the players should be a no-brainer as they’re less likely to support the authoritative body but when you ban the media, you no longer control the narrative. He should’ve played the media, not ban it. Butt-hurt journalists with an axe to grind won’t help your cause. He’s made it at least by appearance, be about him and not the players. I reckon he’d like his time again on some aspects of the negotiations.

 

[Maximus]

newton said on triple mmm he is happy for himself and abdo to step aside if it meant getting the deal done. he said it is more important than him.
this is then offered to him and he says no
wonder why there is no deal????? prob because you cant take newton at his word, makes you wonder how many times he has agreed to other things then changed his mind.

Because the RLPA want an independent mediator. If the NRL is so confident in their position, why won't they accept an independent mediator?

 

[Maximus]

Correct. He was asked directly. No reason Buhrer and the players can't step in.

There would be reasons behind NRL requests it can't hurt players to hear it, then put their side to it and meet in the middle

The players have been involved in the entire process. And the NRL is refusing to meet in the middle, hence why the RLPA took the position they currently have.

 

[taste2taste]

Because the RLPA want an independent mediator. If the NRL is so confident in their position, why won't they accept an independent mediator?

Vlandys quote from the article link on the last page

“The introduction of a new industrial relations mediator would be extremely counterproductive and inefficient.
To bring in someone new, with no context for these concessions or the weighting of the concessions or understanding of professional sport and the whole rugby league ecosystem, would take us backwards on time and effort and the ultimate goal of reaching agreement.

“After all, we already have an independent facilitator who was put forward by them, and who has spent eight months on the matter and is completely knowledgeable of all the detail and understanding. It has, however, become apparent to me that they don’t want a resolution or a deal done. They want a confected conflict.

“I’m at a loss as to what their agenda is, but over time I’m sure it will become apparent. In the meantime, the only loser is the game and the players.”

 

[Maximus]

Vlandys quote from the article link on the last page

“The introduction of a new industrial relations mediator would be extremely counterproductive and inefficient.
To bring in someone new, with no context for these concessions or the weighting of the concessions or understanding of professional sport and the whole rugby league ecosystem, would take us backwards on time and effort and the ultimate goal of reaching agreement.

“After all, we already have an independent facilitator who was put forward by them, and who has spent eight months on the matter and is completely knowledgeable of all the detail and understanding. It has, however, become apparent to me that they don’t want a resolution or a deal done. They want a confected conflict.

“I’m at a loss as to what their agenda is, but over time I’m sure it will become apparent. In the meantime, the only loser is the game and the players.”

Which is a load of crap. Understanding these sorts of agreements is literally the mediator's job.

Vlandys is at a loss about their agenda? How about the fact that they don't want the NRL to own their medical data and the ability to sell it without the players' permission, which is literally against the law?