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NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

Wb1234

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I don't know why 2 afl fans are so anti V'landys.

Everything is going to work out fine, Newton will get his next cushy job and the players and NRL will keep flourishing.
Reality is the next tv deal will see a massive increase in the salary cap due to the work of the arlc

Newton is trying to find ways to be relevant when he’s literally an obstacle
 

taste2taste

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no. They were employed by the nrl. About as independent as the commission lol
Vlandys must be lying when he says the RLPA chose the current independent moderator.

What's the conspiracy with Hugh Mark's? He worked for 9 a decade ago therefore he isn't independent?

Based on that logic you'll agree the players shouldn't be given a seat on the independent commission? They would hardly be making decisions in the best interests of the game.
 

Maximus

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That's because the RLPA are only giving vague comments about what the problems are. As such we oinly have their initial demands as to what to go on, a number of which are unrealistic in any sense of the word (e.g. having a seat on the Commission).

They put out a statement a few weeks ago about what their issues are, and having a seat on the commission isn't one of them.
 

Maximus

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I think some of that has more to do with PR’s baiting than buying the media line

Posters were swallowing Weidler's crap about the players only wanting to fund the Australian team without PR needing to comment.

Havnt they already had 3 independent moderators ?

I'd say the NRL landscape is different due to it being run by an independent commission, where clubs need thier hand held by the IC otherwise they would run the NRL into insolvency if given too much power.

In regards to players tracking data, who do you think the NRL is illegally selling it to ?

No, there has been 2 people employed by the NRL to negotiate their side.

The NRL could sell the data to anyone they want, and the players would never know. Do you give your employer the right to sell your data to whoever they want without notifying you?

Vlandys must be lying when he says the RLPA chose the current independent moderator.

What's the conspiracy with Hugh Mark's? He worked for 9 a decade ago therefore he isn't independent?

Based on that logic you'll agree the players shouldn't be given a seat on the independent commission? They would hardly be making decisions in the best interests of the game.

A decade ago? He was CEO when they got a sweetheart deal during covid
 

Maximus

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Can you link that please?
There seems to be alot of consfusion what issues are.

 
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thats not one hundred points and they are cherry picked.

its not about the money but most of those points relate to money

as for the data, its gps data it doesnt belong to the player. if it was about bllod tests or medical issues i could see a point but how does how many times you run over 20km/h in a game belong to the player
 

taste2taste

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Thanks for posting that, you'd have to think there's a fair bit more they've left out ? and there's a fair bit of tin foil hat stuff there... but most pionts are very reasonable, i find it hard to belive the NRL wouldnt agree...although I have to laugh when they say it's not about money but literally every piont is about money :D

But you can see why most punters are siding with the NRL on this ? The RLPA has contradicted itself and moved the goal posts on a few occasions...and giving the fans the middle finger by not talking to them on game day isn't going to win them any sympathy
 

Perth Red

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Precisely why they should work with the media rather than fight it. Tough ask, I know but you could at least get some of the independent media on side and let them call out the Hoopers and Weidlers and the other f**kwits
Independent media? Like who? They are now Vlandys apologists after the sweet sweet tv deal he gave them.
 

siv

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Maybe the players mediator needs to change

As Newton is no longer a actual player, he will only ever be a go between
 

Perth Red

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Vlandys must be lying when he says the RLPA chose the current independent moderator.

What's the conspiracy with Hugh Mark's? He worked for 9 a decade ago therefore he isn't independent?

Based on that logic you'll agree the players shouldn't be given a seat on the independent commission? They would hardly be making decisions in the best interests of the game.
Absolutely I agree they shouldn’t be on the commission!
Nor should there be 2 state comps on it or clubs.
It’s not independent, it’s full of self interested factions. Might as well chuck the players on it to complete the circus.
 

Maximus

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thats not one hundred points and they are cherry picked.

Lol what? How is it cherry picked when it's the issues they are saying they want resolved?

Also, they say there were 100 changes to the previous proposal. They may be happy to accept some.

its not about the money but most of those points relate to money

It's not about more money. None of those are wanting more money.

as for the data, its gps data it doesnt belong to the player. if it was about bllod tests or medical issues i could see a point but how does how many times you run over 20km/h in a game belong to the player

Proof of this? The statement states "medical and otherwise".
 

Maximus

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Thanks for posting that, you'd have to think there's a fair bit more they've left out ? and there's a fair bit of tin foil hat stuff there... but most pionts are very reasonable, i find it hard to belive the NRL wouldnt agree...although I have to laugh when they say it's not about money but literally every piont is about money :D

But you can see why most punters are siding with the NRL on this ? The RLPA has contradicted itself and moved the goal posts on a few occasions...and giving the fans the middle finger by not talking to them on game day isn't going to win them any sympathy

The fact that the NRL aren't talking about any of these other than the crap they put out about international payments suggests that the RLPA aren't leaving info out about them.

The only tin foil hat one would be their suspicions that the NRL would deliberately underquote income, but that seems to be based on the NRL actually underquoting covid income to underpay them.

And no I don't understand why people would be siding with the NRL when those same people are regularly talking about the NRL being corrupt.
 
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Lol what? How is it cherry picked when it's the issues they are saying they want resolved?

Also, they say there were 100 changes to the previous proposal. They may be happy to accept some.
where is the list of the 100 items, that story mentions a handful
It's not about more money. None of those are wanting more money.

it is the players dont want to pay for it but want the nrl to pay for it. is this monopoly money?
Proof of this? The statement states "medical and otherwise".
i believe newton said in his triple m interview it was gps data but he also clearly said he would step aside if abdo did to get a deal done. it isnt about him he said

if it is medical data then the players 100% should have control of it
 

Timmah

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That's because the RLPA are only giving vague comments about what the problems are. As such we oinly have their initial demands as to what to go on, a number of which are unrealistic in any sense of the word (e.g. having a seat on the Commission).
The RLPA literally put out a detailed FAQ two weeks ago, cmon
 

taste2taste

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Independent media? Like who? They are now Vlandys apologists after the sweet sweet tv deal he gave them.
You could make the argument it was the NRL who got the sweet sweet deal during covid. The NRL delivered an interrupted season, games played with no fans ( unless you count cardboard cut outs ) and TV ratings through the floor.
 
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taste2taste

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The fact that the NRL aren't talking about any of these other than the crap they put out about international payments suggests that the RLPA aren't leaving info out about them.

The only tin foil hat one would be their suspicions that the NRL would deliberately underquote income, but that seems to be based on the NRL actually underquoting covid income to underpay them.

And no I don't understand why people would be siding with the NRL when those same people are regularly talking about the NRL being corrupt.
You can't assume that everything that comes out of Vlandy and Abdos mouth is BS and everything that Newton says is the truth and nothing but the truth, I'm sure they both are twisting things.

The current leaders of the game have a pretty decent track record, in fact the game has never been in better shape. I might be a bit niave, but youd have to back that Abdo is negotiating this CBA on behalf of the games best interests.

In our leaders we trust lol
 
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