NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

[Chimp]

Independent mediator, offers on the table, why aren’t nrl taking it?

Because they’ve already had independents in, though you seem to think they were just working on the NRL side.
The NRL have already conceded lots of ground, the RLPA have got a good deal. Why won’t Clint step aside like he said he would to get the deal done?

 

[Iamback]

Because they’ve already had independents in, though you seem to think they were just working on the NRL side.
The NRL have already conceded lots of ground, the RLPA have got a good deal. Why won’t Clint step aside like he said he would to get the deal done?

Brett Clegg was even the RLPA's choice.

As for your last post, Gal on 100% footy said similar to you. He also said they asked for a player to come on and explain it. No response

 

[Chimp]

Brett Clegg was even the RLPA's choice.

As for your last post, Gal on 100% footy said similar to you. He also said they asked for a player to come on and explain it. No response

That’s the fella….

Players hire secret facilitator

Followed by;

Independent mediator walks away

I’m guessing Perthy will now hide behind ‘that’s the media spin machine’ as per usual when he’s proven wrong.

 

[Iamback]

That’s the fella….

Players hire secret facilitator

Followed by;

Independent mediator walks away

I’m guessing Perthy will now hide behind ‘that’s the media spin machine’ as per usual when he’s proven wrong.

Yep it couldn't possibly be us as fans actually doing our own research

 

[siv]

What’s he so worried about if an independent mediator gets involved?

Because they have used two and Clint has overuled them in negotiations

Thats why the NRL want Clint to step down

 

[Perth Red]

Because they’ve already had independents in, though you seem to think they were just working on the NRL side.
The NRL have already conceded lots of ground, the RLPA have got a good deal. Why won’t Clint step aside like he said he would to get the deal done?

no they havent, they were employed by NRL and reported to NRL.

In your opinion, not in the players opinion

Maybe becuase he is employed by the players to be there? The board of the RLPA are the ones who will make that call, and at the moment the board seem happy for him to be leading the charge.

 

[Perth Red]

The players’ union remains steadfast on its wish for an industrial relations mediator to settle the feud, but Australian Rugby League Commission boss Peter V’landys says that would “be extremely counterproductive and inefficient” and accused the players’ union of not wanting to do a deal.
The RLPA is awaiting a formal position from the NRL following its request for an independent mediator, with V’landys and NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo attending an International Rugby League conference in Singapore over the weekend.
Leading employment lawyer Ian Neil SC said it would be one way for the dispute to be settled.

“It’s been tried and found effective in this country for decades,” he said. “I’ve seen [the NRL’s] justification, but that’s the kind of thing mediators and conciliators in industrial disputes encounter all the time. There’s nothing new about it.

If the NRL and players can’t strike a deal soon, the salary cap might not be enforceable

The cap has been used to even out the competition for 30 years, but there are fears the game could descend into chaos if a new agreement is not reached before November.

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[Captain Apollo]

There’s no oversight though

if the players actually paid for it themselves the rlpa would be a lot more accountable

sounds like a lot of the games money is being wasted tbh

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Oversight by whom? Firstly I'd dare say that the RLPA has to present its accounts at an AGM as part of its process for the election of its board of directors. As such its membership would certainly see them.

Secondly, assuming the RLPA is registered, its affairs would be regulated by the Fair Work Commission which regulates all unions and employer associations.

It is not for the NRL to regulate the RLPA's affairs.

 

[siv]

Well the meeting with the ACTU has gone well

Heels are dug in for a fight

No compromise for 2023 and little likely hood by Nov 1 either. Which means season 2024 will operate under the same conditions as 2023 or a strike begins

 

[Perth Red]

Well the meeting with the ACTU has gone well

Heels are dug in for a fight

No compromise for 2023 and little likely hood by Nov 1 either. Which means season 2024 will operate under the same conditions as 2023 or a strike begins

All NRL has to do is agree to an independent intermediatory. RLPA have already said theyll abide by the decision.
What's the hold up? what are the NRl afraid of the intermediatory finding or deciding?

 

[JamesRustle]

Again the reality is far different from the media anti-clint rhetoric you have swallowed. The players are backing the RLPA, the players saying these so called 'pointless battles' are actually very important to them, the players have lost trust in the NRL management after they tried to screw them and we know Vlandys, in his own words 'prefers a fight to a dinner' (and we have numerous faield examples of this in last two years).

The RLPA have literally said bring in an independent mediator and we will abide by their recommendations. Not sure you can get fairer than that in a stalemate situation. Whats the NRL hold up in doing that? Maybe they can ask Vlandys when they interview him?

RLPA proably asking NRL to fund the independent mediator.

 

[Perth Red]

Because they’ve already had independents in, though you seem to think they were just working on the NRL side.
The NRL have already conceded lots of ground, the RLPA have got a good deal. Why won’t Clint step aside like he said he would to get the deal done?

what the ex ch9 boss? lol

 

[Wb1234]

A lot would go on wages. Clint is not vthe RLPA's only employee. Also it would have to fund other expenses such as rent for office accommodation. The biggest cost for unions are, not the office bearers usually (as only the Secretary and Assistant Secretaries (or equivalents) are paid) but the organisers who are the paid staff and front line staff whom members speak to.

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Oversight by whom? Firstly I'd dare say that the RLPA has to present its accounts at an AGM as part of its process for the election of its board of directors. As such its membership would certainly see them.

Secondly, assuming the RLPA is registered, its affairs would be regulated by the Fair Work Commission which regulates all unions and employer associations.

It is not for the NRL to regulate the RLPA's affairs.

Oversight by the nrl that the players don’t waste it then ask for another ten million during the next cba as a top up

if it’s for genuine medical issues post retirement why would players be afraid of oversight

the nrl has already been more than generous to providing the money the players wanted for this fund when really they should be paying for it themselves out of their large salaries

 

[Perth Red]

That’s the fella….

Players hire secret facilitator

Followed by;

Independent mediator walks away

I’m guessing Perthy will now hide behind ‘that’s the media spin machine’ as per usual when he’s proven wrong.

Fact is offer is on the table, bring in an industrial expert and rlpa will abide by their findings. Its now up to the NRl to take up that offer and get this thing sorted.

 

[Iamback]

Fact is offer is on the table, bring in an industrial expert and rlpa will abide by their findings. Its now up to the NRl to take up that offer and get this thing sorted.

How long does it take to get up to speed and charged per hour, Who is going to pay that?

 

[Perth Red]

How long does it take to get up to speed and charged per hour, Who is going to pay that?

They should split the cost of it 50-50 imo.
Its going to take a lot less time than currently where its been nearly 2 years and still no agreement! If it takes a month to get up to speed, though the experts suggest it wont, then so be it, at least it will be done and out of way before end of season. Players might also back off in the mean time with their action (by way of conciliation NRL should ask for this given the RLPA are asking for the intermediatory) .
At the moment there doesnt appear to be any other solution being presented other than Vlandys saying Newton should step down, to which the players have said no.

Its in the interest of the NRL to agree to this unless they are afraid what they have proposed is unreasonable and an expert in the area will rule against them.

 

[Chimp]

Fact is offer is on the table, bring in an industrial expert and rlpa will abide by their findings. Its now up to the NRl to take up that offer and get this thing sorted.

But you said there hadn’t been an independent mediator??? There has, and it didn’t work, so why waste more time and money?
Eventually, negotiations have to come to an end, and the RLPA have shown no flexibility.

no they havent, they were employed by NRL and reported to NRL.

In your opinion, not in the players opinion

Maybe becuase he is employed by the players to be there? The board of the RLPA are the ones who will make that call, and at the moment the board seem happy for him to be leading the charge.

But Clint is on record as saying he’d step aside if it meant getting a deal done, the offer is on the table from NRL for both him and Abdo to step aside and PVL will meet with the RLPA and ‘get a deal done within 48 hours’.
Clint offered, PVL and Abdo accepted, Clint backtracked….
So, I retort…. Offer is on the table, a deal to be done within 48 hours, Clint just has to do what he said he’d do, PVL has committed to getting it done, why don’t the RLPA accept that offer and get it done - worst case scenario, after 48 hours, if it’s still not resolved, they’re in no worse position. Why won’t they accept that? They have nothing to lose, other than it confirming Clint was the problem….

 

[siv]

All NRL has to do is agree to an independent intermediatory. RLPA have already said theyll abide by the decision.
What's the hold up? what are the NRl afraid of the intermediatory finding or deciding?

Problem was they already paid for two

And Clint overruled them

Its why the NRL wants Newtown out of negotiations

Newtown wants a imedediatory but still wants overrule authority

 

[Wb1234]

Problem was they already paid for two

And Clint overruled them

Its why the NRL wants Newtown out of negotiations

Newtown wants a imedediatory but still wants overrule authority

And the channel nine was favourable to the players

he advised albo to accept the 20 million was extra revenue the players should share in when the arlc thought they shouldn’t

 

[Iamback]

They should split the cost of it 50-50 imo.
Its going to take a lot less time than currently where its been nearly 2 years and still no agreement! If it takes a month to get up to speed, though the experts suggest it wont, then so be it, at least it will be done and out of way before end of season. Players might also back off in the mean time with their action (by way of conciliation NRL should ask for this given the RLPA are asking for the intermediatory) .
At the moment there doesnt appear to be any other solution being presented other than Vlandys saying Newton should step down, to which the players have said no.

Its in the interest of the NRL to agree to this unless they are afraid what they have proposed is unreasonable and an expert in the area will rule against them.

Because it runs out in Nov, it will take months for someone new to jump in

Lets compare to other industries

Why do the players need 9 weeks holidays? IR person will need that to be explained.

No other industry has revenue share, There are 2 things right there.

No other sport here has most of the stuff NRL has so there is more chance the players end up with the worst deal