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NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

Iamback

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I e got nothing against players future proofing themselves for better rights but we’re in a high inflation, potential resession and possible job losses coming up and these people want more. They need to read the room a little better. I think they’re getting bad advice from the rlpa and they’re better ways of going about it

There are some reasonable requests in there, There are give and take with these things but some of it shouldn't happen. Not sure what the minimum is for the players to accept it
 

Iamback

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Not really but if that’s your take on it that’s on you.

14 months in and no agreement, players mightly pssed off at the way they are being treated, sounds like communication is and has been terrible from the commision , commission going rogue and announcing salary cap without even discussing it with players.

but yeh I’m clearly wrong about the negotiating abilities of our illustrious leaders lol. Besides it’s not like there isn’t a pattern emerging here when it comes to important negotiations is it?
stadiums, nswrl, tv deal. Hmmmm.

Wasn't a player whinging that NRL sent someone other then PVL? Even when he isn't involved you blame him.

As for the cap, Not a single player has disagreed with the figure just how it was announced. Clubs needed a figure to know how much is coming in and going out
 

Wb1234

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There are some reasonable requests in there, There are give and take with these things but some of it shouldn't happen. Not sure what the minimum is for the players to accept it
Nah they got the money they wanted

now it’s just a power trip

sign the cba and get back to pre season training

they are acting exactly like Francis ngaannaou in the ufc rejecting a massive contract offer by asking for random bs that they don’t deserve

let’s see if vlandys can be like Dana white and pull a jon jones out of the woowdwork
 
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I think Christian Welch adds alot of credibility to the players argument. He is clearly stating there are non financial issues at the core and the goodwill with the NRL has been fully eroded. Even the clubs are backing the players.

We don't know what's gone on behind the scenes but it can't be good for the administration either. Maybe they can reduce the salary cap for some these other demands and reinvest the savings.
 

MugaB

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I think Christian Welch adds alot of credibility to the players argument. He is clearly stating there are non financial issues at the core and the goodwill with the NRL has been fully eroded. Even the clubs are backing the players.

We don't know what's gone on behind the scenes but it can't be good for the administration either. Maybe they can reduce the salary cap for some these other demands and reinvest the savings.
Welch is a moron, stick to coping head highs Christian, sit out with another season, coz you keep headbutting knees and hips...
 

Perth Red

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I e got nothing against players future proofing themselves for better rights but we’re in a high inflation, potential resession and possible job losses coming up and these people want more. They need to read the room a little better. I think they’re getting bad advice from the rlpa and they’re better ways of going about it
It sounds like money is the least part of the sticking points tbf.
rlpa should come out and tell us exactly what they are asking for so it doesn’t look like just player greed. We’ve had dribs and drabs of stuff like medical support and post playing support. Today this one about the transfer window the NRL wanted to change to detriment t if players:


NRL powerbrokers have reportedly eased their push for a post-season trade window, instead proposing to the RLPA players will be able to sign with rivals for the following year from June 30.

The introduction of a transfer window has been one of the sticking points in the heated ongoing dispute regarding the collective bargaining agreement, according to AAP.

 
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Perth Red

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I think Christian Welch adds alot of credibility to the players argument. He is clearly stating there are non financial issues at the core and the goodwill with the NRL has been fully eroded. Even the clubs are backing the players.

We don't know what's gone on behind the scenes but it can't be good for the administration either. Maybe they can reduce the salary cap for some these other demands and reinvest the savings.
They could help meet the cost of the medical support player request by agreeing that a % of finals revenue goes to that rather than players who are already getting a substantial rise.

id suggest the nrls credibility with the players is at an all time low. They tried to fiddle them out of money, cut their salaries whilst at the same time significantly increasing clubs funding and making a healthy surplus, feel the communication is disrespectful and things are deliberately being leaked to the media, it’s a bit of an organisational cultural mess looking in from the outside.
 

MugaB

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It sounds like money is the east part of the sticking points tbf.
rlpa should come out and tell us exactly what they are asking for so it doesn’t look like just player greed. We’ve had drugs and drabs of stuff like medical support and post playing support. Today this one about the transfer window the NRL wanted to change to detriment t if players:


NRL powerbrokers have reportedly eased their push for a post-season trade window, instead proposing to the RLPA players will be able to sign with rivals for the following year from June 30.

The introduction of a transfer window has been one of the sticking points in the heated ongoing dispute regarding the collective bargaining agreement, according to AAP.

They are just butthurt, coz they didn't get the recognition for the payrise, now they just wanna strike like its a madonna concert, you'll see, when push comes to shove, those who are contracted to the good clubs will fall in line, its just posturing... its actually piss poor coming from the players, instead of clint newton, i feel like he has just lost his job, now they have no choice but to let the players front up.... its got that manly pride jersey stink all over it
 

AlwaysGreen

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They could help meet the cost of the medical support player request by agreeing that a % of finals revenue goes to that rather than players who are already getting a substantial rise.

id suggest the nrls credibility with the players is at an all time low. They tried to fiddle them out of money, cut their salaries whilst at the same time significantly increasing clubs funding and making a healthy surplus, feel the communication is disrespectful and things are deliberately being leaked to the media, it’s a bit of an organisational cultural mess looking in from the outside.
Looking in from the outside from 10000 kilometres away and acting like you've got insider's knowledge.
 

MugaB

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It sounds like money is the east part of the sticking points tbf.
rlpa should come out and tell us exactly what they are asking for so it doesn’t look like just player greed. We’ve had drugs and drabs of stuff like medical support and post playing support. Today this one about the transfer window the NRL wanted to change to detriment t if players:


NRL powerbrokers have reportedly eased their push for a post-season trade window, instead proposing to the RLPA players will be able to sign with rivals for the following year from June 30.

The introduction of a transfer window has been one of the sticking points in the heated ongoing dispute regarding the collective bargaining agreement, according to AAP.

They are just butthurt, coz they didn't get the recognition for the payrise, now they just wanna strike like its a madonna concert, you'll see, when push comes to shove, those who are contracted to the good clubs will fall in line, its just posturing... its actually piss poor coming from the players, instead of clint newton
 

Wb1234

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I think Christian Welch adds alot of credibility to the players argument. He is clearly stating there are non financial issues at the core and the goodwill with the NRL has been fully eroded. Even the clubs are backing the players.

We don't know what's gone on behind the scenes but it can't be good for the administration either. Maybe they can reduce the salary cap for some these other demands and reinvest the savings.
The players say it’s not about money

then one of the outstanding points is they want a greater revenue share of the game from what is proposed to 2 point higher (current 32 percent vs goal of 34 percent)

maybe Christian welsh thinks he can fool people into thinking that’s not asking for more money

plus asking for match payments for finals games and the magic weekend sure sounds like asking for more money to me
 

Wb1234

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They are just butthurt, coz they didn't get the recognition for the payrise, now they just wanna strike like its a madonna concert, you'll see, when push comes to shove, those who are contracted to the good clubs will fall in line, its just posturing... its actually piss poor coming from the players, instead of clint newton
First clubs were talking about a super league now players have mentioned striking or standing down from round one

if either was grossly underfunded I mean maybe that’s a last resort

but both are getting record amounts of funding

complaining the arlc is at fault for the delay when they are clearly posturing ambit claims is a load of bs
 

Iamback

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The players say it’s not about money

then one of the outstanding points is they want a greater revenue share of the game from what is proposed to 2 point higher (current 32 percent vs goal of 34 percent)

maybe Christian welsh thinks he can fool people into thinking that’s not asking for more money

plus asking for match payments for finals games and the magic weekend sure sounds like asking for more money to me

The salary cap being locked in for the clubs benefit wouldn't be an issue, If it wasn't about money
 

Perth Red

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The salary cap being locked in for the clubs benefit wouldn't be an issue, If it wasn't about money
when you’re in negotiations and supposed to be an equal partner, having the other party make public announcements before agreement with yourself is a pretty strong sign of disrespect. Especially when it was done to make the players look the bad guys and greedy. worked on some eaily led on here though It would seem.

the players have never said it’s not still about the money to some smaller degree, you’re being disingenuous to claim that. Here’s what they are actually saying:

“Our claims are completely reasonable, and the biggest sticking points are non-financial. This big hold up isn’t because of the salary cap being far off, it’s a number of things the NRL isn’t even willing to talk to us about.
“I don’t know what they’ve been doing throughout the year.”
welch

the only unreasonable thing I’ve seen them ask for is a seat on the commision and I totally support the arlc saying no to this, and they should kick off the clubs and the state bodies as well!
 
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Munky

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We need to create a laundry list of they want

- increase in wages from 32% to 34% of total revenue
- seat on ARLC board
- imro ed medical insurance
- increase in super

What else

Increase in super is an interesting one.

Most players will be near the concessional cap anyway so the 10.5% is fine. For the lower paid and young players it's a good thing and not a bad idea.

Penrith got done for cap rorting by paying extra super about twenty years ago.
 

Frailty

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We need to create a laundry list of they want

- increase in wages from 32% to 34% of total revenue
- seat on ARLC board
- imro ed medical insurance
- increase in super

What else
Clarity for the NRLW players...

They currently have no indication of season schedule, roster sizes, salary cap, and insurance information.
 

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