NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

[Iamback]

Nice strawman.

The similarities are the attacks that production companies keep using against them - namely "actors are well paid, they're all millionaires" (despite vast majority, up to 86%, earning less than $26,000), "we are willing to meet" but they never do, "the actors and writers don't even know what the negotiations are about and being mislead by their union reps", "the strike is only damaging their ability to earn".

Compare this with the NRL and media response to the RLPA - "They've never earnt more", "we are willing to meet (but only with our conditions met", "the players don't even know what the negotiations are about", "not doing media work is only damaging their ability to earn more".

It's the same old playbook.

Except NRL players get a % of total revenue, Actors are nothing like that.
Also computers can't play football, So they are miles apart

 

[Wb1234]

Get it done Clint

finals are coming up time for you to get back in. Your box for another five years

 

[Maximus]

How’s it a Strawman ?

the most relevant figure is how much their pay went up everything else is secondary

rugby league players have already secured a massive pay increase and are still in dispute

So you would give up OH&S requirements if you got paid more. After all, everything else is secondary. All that extra money will be very comforting when you die on an unsafe building site because earning more money means you shouldn't care about any other conditions.

 

[Iamback]

So you would give up OH&S requirements if you got paid more. After all, everything else is secondary. All that extra money will be very comforting when you die on an unsafe building site because earning more money means you shouldn't care about any other conditions.

What extra is unsafe for the players under this new deal?

 

[Maximus]

What extra is unsafe for the players under this new deal?

Could be anything. He stated that the players should ignore everything else because they are getting paid more. So if the NRL decide that the players are no longer insured, he reckons the players should just accept that because they are being paid more.

You don't have to defend every dumbarse post he makes.

 

[Iamback]

Could be anything. He stated that the players should ignore everything else because they are getting paid more. So if the NRL decide that the players are no longer insured, he reckons the players should just accept that because they are being paid more.

You don't have to defend every dumbarse post he makes.

I am calling out the stupid comparison made not defending any poster.

There is zero chance any professional sport lets anyone without insurance play.

The shoulder charged ban
Punching ban
HIA changes have all been brought in to make the work place safe.

So lets not over react here

 

[siv]

Lets see how todays NRL RLPA meeting goes

 

[Wb1234]

Rlpa director wade graham

 

[Maximus]

I am calling out the stupid comparison made not defending any poster.

There is zero chance any professional sport lets anyone without insurance play.

The shoulder charged ban
Punching ban
HIA changes have all been brought in to make the work place safe.

So lets not over react here

Oh so only sports people should give up their rights and protections because they get paid more? Yeah not surprised you demand others give up something that you yourself would not.

And don't pretend they made any of those changes for any reason other than to avoid being sued.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Get it done Clint

finals are coming up time for you to get back in. Your box for another five years

Here's Fox Sports article on it -

‘Breakthrough’ peace talks could finally end NRL dispute as ‘master negotiator’ enters fray

‘Breakthrough’ peace talks could finally end NRL dispute as ‘master negotiator’ enters fray

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Iamback]

Oh so only sports people should give up their rights and protections because they get paid more? Yeah not surprised you demand others give up something that you yourself would not.

And don't pretend they made any of those changes for any reason other than to avoid being sued.

Where did I say that?

The 2022 CBA they are currently using has protections and rights in it.

So worst case the NRL gets their way ( which they won't )

They still have the same rights. More money and Leave.

 

[Chimp]

Oh so only sports people should give up their rights and protections because they get paid more? Yeah not surprised you demand others give up something that you yourself would not.

And don't pretend they made any of those changes for any reason other than to avoid being sued.

Where has anyone said they’re required to give up their rights?

You (and Clint) act as though the NRL are some barbaric organisation, exploiting vulnerable workers for their own benefit.

Where is your evidence of a history of the NRL treating the players so poorly, or evidence of them abusing their power, or denying players their rights? Where does this cynical view of the NRL come from?

For all people might have their own personal view of how effective PVL and Abdo have been during their time with the NRL, I think it’s pretty clear to any sane, non-biased person that they’re trying to do what’s right for the long term future of the game. They’re not driving these discussions for their own personal gain, unlike Clint and the players.

 

[Iamback]

Where has anyone said they’re required to give up their rights?

You (and Clint) act as though the NRL are some barbaric organisation, exploiting vulnerable workers for their own benefit.

Where is your evidence of a history of the NRL treating the players so poorly, or evidence of them abusing their power, or denying players their rights? Where does this cynical view of the NRL come from?

For all people might have their own personal view of how effective PVL and Abdo have been during their time with the NRL, I think it’s pretty clear to any sane, non-biased person that they’re trying to do what’s right for the long term future of the game. They’re not driving these discussions for their own personal gain, unlike Clint and the players.

This.

The players are chasing the best they can get, That is their right.

On the flip side. They have had some pretty big wins since the old CBA, it isn't some sweat shop in Asia.

Hell they even got to keep the transfer arrangements that most including the NRL wanted changed.

The wording on the medical data inparticular will change, I can't see it being sold. So likely NRL gives the players that win.

Players and NRL can't agree on test payments, Then the existing system will stay in play.

Season length is jumping at shadows. 9 weeks holidays means there is no room to extend the season

 

[Wb1234]

Where has anyone said they’re required to give up their rights?

You (and Clint) act as though the NRL are some barbaric organisation, exploiting vulnerable workers for their own benefit.

Where is your evidence of a history of the NRL treating the players so poorly, or evidence of them abusing their power, or denying players their rights? Where does this cynical view of the NRL come from?

For all people might have their own personal view of how effective PVL and Abdo have been during their time with the NRL, I think it’s pretty clear to any sane, non-biased person that they’re trying to do what’s right for the long term future of the game. They’re not driving these discussions for their own personal gain, unlike Clint and the players.

Pvl has done more for the players than Clint

it’s not even arguable

 

[Maximus]

Where has anyone said they’re required to give up their rights?

Wb1234 was stating that the players should just forget everything else in the CBA because they are getting paid more and that's the only important thing. So if the NRL were to strip rights and protections away, the players should just accept it because they are getting paid more.

If you don’t like people pointing out the stupidity of arguments like that and showing the extreme point of view, maybe don't just ignore the stupid arguments because they agree with your side.

 

[10$ Ferret]

rugby League players association.
Why don't they represent all rugby league players. Whats the difference between an NRL player suffering a serious injury and an A grade park footy player suffering the same injury.

Show some integrity and represent all rugby league players

 

[Iamback]

Wb1234 was stating that the players should just forget everything else in the CBA because they are getting paid more and that's the only important thing. So if the NRL were to strip rights and protections away, the players should just accept it because they are getting paid more.

If you don’t like people pointing out the stupidity of arguments like that and showing the extreme point of view, maybe don't just ignore the stupid arguments because they agree with your side.

Everything in the NEW CBA, a big difference between looking to improve standards and having no rights at all.

 

[Munky]

Rlpa director wade graham

At the same age a former recent UK prime minister was f**king pigs.

What's your point?

We once had multi millionaire tech bros rock up for a serious meeting in 2010 in boardies and thongs.

 

[Maximus]

Everything in the NEW CBA, a big difference between looking to improve standards and having no rights at all.

You know the NEW CBA can remove previously protected rights yeah?

 

[Wb1234]

At the same age a former recent UK prime minister was f**king pigs.

What's your point?

We once had multi millionaire tech bros rock up for a serious meeting in 2010 in boardies and thongs.

Pretty obvious point

current rlpa director too

Cronulla Sharks backrower Wade Graham apologises for attire worn to first ASADA interview

Graham faces fine for ASADA attire

www.foxsports.com.au