Well you haven't understood a thing in that post, it's very carefully worded as well...
lol weren't you going on about how the Denver Test was unreasonable because business this and business that
This is a total aside and I don't really want to get into it, but the Denver Test is unreasonable, not because England and NZ want to hold a test in the US, or cause it's during the NRL season, or anything like that, but because of the way that it's being handled...
For the test to go ahead the way that it's organised it's necessary for the NRL clubs as businessess' to take a hit without anything to show for it (no hope of a return and no compensation for their loss), that is just wrong on a moral level, it sets a precedent that will eventually come back to bite us in the arse, and it's completely unnecessary, with some minor changes to the planning of it and the rules about availability for internationals it's %100 avoidable and the match could still go ahead effectually as it's been planned
Anyhow this isn't the time or the place...
and now we should have clubs from London and 'multiple Asian cities'. It is not an inevitability, don't be stupid.
Firstly I never once said that we 'should' have clubs from London, Asian cities, Hawaii, South Africa, or anywhere outside of Australia or NZ, not once!
The most that I said was that they were reasonable possibilities, and they are, I also said that I'd advise against most of them being in the competition, and that many of them were just outright bad ideas!
I didn't even say that it was an inevitability that those particular places would get clubs, I said that it was an inevitability that the competition would eventually become transcontinental, and unless it falls over it is an inevitability that it'll become a transcontinental competition given time.
It's only a matter of time before a group of rich business men or a government from somewhere outside of Aus/NZ tries and is successful in launching an NRL club, there're already rumblings it about from all over the world, there's been interest in the comp from the Middle East and Hawaii in particular though nothing concrete about a bid from either region, but the best example is Marwan Koukash and a "British" NRL club-
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...l/news-story/a220f7c3367554f75edeb0b2bc827d66
I mean seriously 5 years ago if you said there'd be a professional club based in Toronto playing in the RFL system everyone would have said you were mad, but now we have the Wolfpack, and it's only a matter of time before the NRL has it's own club similar to the WP pop up out of nowhere, it might happen tomorrow, or it might happen in 150 years, but it is inevitable given time.
Also we do not have to deal in absolutes here. Expansion does not mean new clubs on top of the existing 16. It means expansion to new areas in any way. Central Coast is absolutely an option for an existing Sydney club to move to, and an option if a couple of Sydney clubs fall over.
Actually this is a thread about the "NRL strategic plan 2018-2022 as it relates to expansion", in the "NRL Expansion forum, and the talk was mainly about the NRL...
And frankly if a Sydney club falls over there're plenty of better options than the CC, like dropping them down to a lower tier where they are more sustainable and introducing a new club from Perth, Brisbane, or NZ, but whatever man.
When it comes to PNG, no one has said for a while now that PNG should have its own full club. The talk is about basing the club in Cairns and playing half in Cairns and half in PNG, which I see no problem with and would definitely prefer it over Adelaide.
I see a massive problem with it- cost!
The cost of running and team based in Carins but playing home games in PNG would be enormous, you've got to pay for a shit ton more travel, extreme amounts of security in PNG, the rent for two home stadiums, a Cairns/PNG team isn't going to be worth shit to broadcasters, sponsors, investors, etc, etc, etc, and frankly there are simply better much more commercially viable options for expansion destinations and their almost certainly always will be...
And has anyone talked about Central Queensland in the last 5 years?
Yep, they get brought up semi regularly, not as much as CC but they still get mentioned whenever expansion is talked about. In fact you yourself brought them up in this very thread-
And so is PNG, Fiji, Central Coast, Central Queensland etc.
And this rubbish that Adelaide needs a club because people don't know the game exists there and how else are we going to get fans unless we make up some bullshit club like GWS and plant it in Adelaide without no support? How the hell have Perth done it then? They have a bid, they have a team in the U18s and they have good support. There's nothing stopping Adelaide from doing the same thing. We don't need plastic shit teams cluttering up the comp, the Titans are bad enough.
Just WTF, seriously.
I said that the reason that Adelaide will inevitably get a club is cause of commercial reasons, cause having a club based there would be incredibly valuable to broadcasters, advertisers, sponsors, etc, etc. That's the reason they'll get a club, and why they'll get a club long before other places that are being mentioned are even seriously in the conversation, it's got nothing to do people not knowing that the game exists down there...
What I said about people not knowing the game down there was that it's unreasonable to rule them out for expansion cause they don't have a strong league culture there cause the only way they are going to build one is if we introduce it to them, or in other words you can't want for something if you don't know that it exists and by and large they really don't know that it exists.
How the hell have Perth done it then? They have a bid, they have a team in the U18s and they have good support. There's nothing stopping Adelaide from doing the same thing. We don't need plastic shit teams cluttering up the comp, the Titans are bad enough.
I can explain that for you as well...
It's rather simple actually, the amount of migration to Perth compared to Adelaide is huge (particularly from the East Coast, NZ, and England), when some of those people migrate to Perth they take RL with them and eventually enough get together that a culture of RL starts to build. That hasn't happened in SA simply cause migration to SA is basically nonexistent, in fact (IIRC) SA's population is slowly but steadily ageing and shrinking, and more people are leaving SA then moving into it, 200-300 years from now SA will have been left behind population wise by the rest of the country (except Tas) if things don't change (and they almost certainly will change, some industry will eventually be based there looking for cheap housing or whatever and that inductry will draw people there), but until that point Adelaide and SA will be a crucial market in Australia.
So basically cause of those circumstances it's extremely unlikely that Adelaide will ever build a league culture like Perth has without help from outside of SA, and the only people that really have the power to do that is the NRL.
