NRL to buy share of Super League

[Perth Red]

Super league went back to the rfl

Nothing can happen in SL unless the SL clubs vote for it to happen. ergo the clubs in effect control SL.

 

[Wb1234]

Nothing can happen in SL unless the SL clubs vote for it to happen. ergo the clubs in effect control SL.

Yeh bs

 

[Perth Red]

Yeh bs

no different to nrl in essence, though NRL also has the complication of having to get two amateur bodies on board with decisions as well.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Good point about it being super league not the whole game

What happens with clubs outside that want to get in

I guess the NRL Europe will have a fixed number of teams like the NRL here does. If we want to expand in the future, we could call for bids and be strategic about who gets a team without the chaos of P&R that doesn't give expansion areas security to grow. RL isn't big enough in the UK & Europe for P&R.

The RFL will continue to run their domestic 1st, 2nd and maybe 3rd division with P&R but without the English NRL teams. The only difference is that the English first division won't be a pro league and will no longer be considered 1st grade RL.

All English clubs could still compete in the Challenge Cup to give it prestige and continuity as the oldest club cup competition in the world.

 

[Wb1234]

'Massive legal situations' - Derek Beaumont's Hull FC swipe & IMG claim - Serious About Rugby League

Leigh Leopards owner Derek Beaumont has warned IMG about the possibility of legal action being taken when it releases its grading for next season. Just seven clubs were considered to be Grade A clubs by IMG, when the company announced its initial findings at the end of the 2023 Super League...

www.seriousaboutrl.com

This is why nrl shouldn’t invest a cent in super league

they will be dealing with club chairman like this

 

[taste2taste]

poor analogy. A better one would be the Aleague could do better in Aus if it just learnt from what the EPL has done.

you didn't answer the question. NRL has little competition in its market and where it does have serious competition it has achieved little. No teams in perth, adelaide or tasmania, min impact in victoria.
SL is competing against the biggest sport in the world with a local competition thats in the top 3 sports competitions in the world. Good luck turning it around.

I don't get the argument that ESL is competing against Soccer, they are played at different times of year and surely there's millions of northerners who prefer a contact sport ? North England has a population bigger than NSW and QLD combined, what's the ESL doing to tap into that population?

If the NRL were to help the ESL the first lesson would be to make it an even playing field. Having the same 2 teams win every year isn't going to attract fans from outside those 2 areas.

Small things like introducing and growing Oztag are proven ways of growing the sport. Also having a FTA broadcast partner....even if the fta partner doesn't pay to televise the games it's still worth the financial hit as its a proven way of growing the game. Putting a sport behind a paywall is the quickest way to kill it.

In Frances Elite 1 they also need a FTA partner and they need to stop wasting the small amount of money they have on washed up players like Procter, Whare and Maloney and instead invest it in keeping thier talented juniors from going to Rugby. France have the talent they just need the $$ to keep thier top talented youngsters.

This is just off the top of my head but I'm sure the nrl could help the esl and elite 1 go deeper into metrics

 

[taste2taste]

'Massive legal situations' - Derek Beaumont's Hull FC swipe & IMG claim - Serious About Rugby League

Leigh Leopards owner Derek Beaumont has warned IMG about the possibility of legal action being taken when it releases its grading for next season. Just seven clubs were considered to be Grade A clubs by IMG, when the company announced its initial findings at the end of the 2023 Super League...

www.seriousaboutrl.com

This is why nrl shouldn’t invest a cent in super league

they will be dealing with club chairman like this

The same clubs that voted out the Toronto Wolfpack because they didn't add any value to the league lol

 

[Perth Red]

I don't get the argument that ESL is competing against Soccer, they are played at different times of year and surely there's millions of northerners who prefer a contact sport ? North England has a population bigger than NSW and QLD combined, what's the ESL doing to tap into that population?

If the NRL were to help the ESL the first lesson would be to make it an even playing field. Having the same 2 teams win every year isn't going to attract fans from outside those 2 areas.

Small things like introducing and growing Oztag are proven ways of growing the sport. Also having a FTA broadcast partner....even if the fta partner doesn't pay to televise the games it's still worth the financial hit as its a proven way of growing the game. Putting a sport behind a paywall is the quickest way to kill it.

In Frances Elite 1 they also need a FTA partner and they need to stop wasting the small amount of money they have on washed up players like Procter, Whare and Maloney and instead invest it in keeping thier talented juniors from going to Rugby. France have the talent they just need the $$ to keep thier top talented youngsters.

This is just off the top of my head but I'm sure the nrl could help the esl and elite 1 go deeper into metrics

that’s what img is doing, both of those things. Evening the comp through licensing and SL is now on fta.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

The same clubs that voted out the Toronto Wolfpack because they didn't add any value to the league lol

One of the worst decisions ever made in the history of the sport.

 

[taste2taste]

One of the worst decisions ever made in the history of the sport.

A true sliding doors moment.

The SL could currently have 3 Northern American teams. Toronto, Ottawa and New York.

Having said that, there's no reason under the IMG process Toronto couldn't get back into SL.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

A true sliding doors moment.

The SL could currently have 3 Northern American teams. Toronto, Ottawa and New York.

Having said that, there's no reason under the IMG process Toronto couldn't get back into SL.

Between that and the RLWC decision we have a great game run by complete and utter morons.

 

[Pippen94]

'Massive legal situations' - Derek Beaumont's Hull FC swipe & IMG claim - Serious About Rugby League

Leigh Leopards owner Derek Beaumont has warned IMG about the possibility of legal action being taken when it releases its grading for next season. Just seven clubs were considered to be Grade A clubs by IMG, when the company announced its initial findings at the end of the 2023 Super League...

www.seriousaboutrl.com

This is why nrl shouldn’t invest a cent in super league

they will be dealing with club chairman like this

They won't be dealing with leigh

 

[Pippen94]

One of the worst decisions ever made in the history of the sport.

Toronto wasn't feasible. Money invested would've been better spent on a team for Manchester.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

Toronto wasn't feasible. Money invested would've been better spent on a team for Manchester.

Salford? Literally part of Manchester. Same town where Man United Women & reserves play.

 

[Wb1234]

Salford? Literally part of Manchester. Same town where Man United Women & reserves play.

Technically two cities but you aren’t wrong

They won't be dealing with leigh

Leigh are in super league or court case

 

[Pippen94]

Salford? Literally part of Manchester. Same town where Man United Women & reserves play.

Salford, Leigh, Oldham..better one big club for Manchester

 

[Pippen94]

Technically two cities but you aren’t wrong

Leigh are in super league or court case

NRL could select teams they want & start league. Leigh won't be there.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

A true sliding doors moment.

The SL could currently have 3 Northern American teams. Toronto, Ottawa and New York.

Having said that, there's no reason under the IMG process Toronto couldn't get back into SL.

Unfortunately IMG have limited SL to no more than two non-English clubs. Catalan being one and Toulouse knocking on the door as the other.

Hopefully the NRL work with the top 8 English clubs and form a European conference and add Toulouse, Catalans, North Wales (new big money owners) and Toronto. Then the NRL has an international footprint of Aus, NZ, PNG, Eng, France,Canada and Wales and the possibility of Fiji in the future.

That gives you new commercial opportunities and a fantastic base to launch the international game to new heights from.

 

[Wb1234]

Unfortunately IMG have limited SL to no more than two non-English clubs. Catalan being one and Toulouse knocking on the door as the other.

Hopefully the NRL work with the top 8 English clubs and form a European conference and add Toulouse, Catalans, North Wales (new big money owners) and Toronto. Then the NRL has an international footprint of Aus, NZ, PNG, Eng, France,Canada and Wales and the possibility of Fiji in the future.

That gives you new commercial opportunities and a fantastic base to launch the international game to new heights from.

Toronto would be massive for rugby league and super league

ties in with Vegas nicely

 

[The Daddy3]

The problem with the game in the UK and it's been alluded to already in this thread is that the clubs have a stranglehold on the strategic direction of the sport. This includes clubs that bring no added value and based in very small catchment areas that already have 2-5 SL clubs.

These are the same clubs that vote on all key commercial aspects of SL and more than likely are the same ones reaching out to the NRL. RL has become to political in the UK

If i were the NRL it would be much better to invest in a pro french league, there's much more upside and there are areas that have historic, latent support. Like Albi, Carcassonne, Avignon, Lot-et-Garonne and Lyon.