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NRL to buy share of Super League

Wb1234

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The problem with the game in the UK and it's been alluded to already in this thread is that the clubs have a stranglehold on the strategic direction of the sport. This includes clubs that bring no added value and based in very small catchment areas that already have 2-5 SL clubs.

These are the same clubs that vote on all key commercial aspects of SL and more than likely are the same ones reaching out to the NRL. RL has become to political in the UK

If i were the NRL it would be much better to invest in a pro french league, there's much more upside and there are areas that have historic, latent support. Like Albi, Carcassonne, Avignon, Lot-et-Garonne and Lyon.
Ten team league comprising England and France and bypassing the existing English clubs

your right about France though. They would embrace the changes required (Les Catalans are a merger) and would offer far greater potential growth
 

The Daddy3

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Ten team league comprising England and France and bypassing the existing English clubs

your right about France though. They would embrace the changes required (Les Catalans are a merger) and would offer far greater potential growth
Good luck in bypassing the existing English clubs. They do not want to make any changes or relinquish any power if it does not involve them playing in the SL.

France will be more open to change. The NRL owning/funding a France pro league will give them a footprint in Europe's biggest rugby market.

Issuing 8-10 annual club grants to french clubs to rebrand, upscale and participate in the league is all it would take.
 

Perth Red

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The problem with the game in the UK and it's been alluded to already in this thread is that the clubs have a stranglehold on the strategic direction of the sport. This includes clubs that bring no added value and based in very small catchment areas that already have 2-5 SL clubs.

These are the same clubs that vote on all key commercial aspects of SL and more than likely are the same ones reaching out to the NRL. RL has become to political in the UK

If i were the NRL it would be much better to invest in a pro french league, there's much more upside and there are areas that have historic, latent support. Like Albi, Carcassonne, Avignon, Lot-et-Garonne and Lyon.
You do know that most French clubs are tiny based in small towns don’t you? They’ve been trying to get someone to cover the French teams on tv and have failed every year. It’d be a brave/foolish investor that would put their money into French rl.
 

The Daddy3

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You do know that most French clubs are tiny based in small towns don’t you? They’ve been trying to get someone to cover the French teams on tv and have failed every year. It’d be a brave/foolish investor that would put their money into French rl.
Rubbish, the main clubs I refer to are located in regional catchment areas between 350 - 600k and are large enough to support a professional club.

Like Catalan had before they entered SL these clubs have latent support but just need some investment to professionalise their organisation.

Carcassonne - Main city in Aude Region of over 350k. The club already get significant support from local and regional councils and some of their squad players are already professional. It would not be a huge leap to progress to a fully professional outfit.

Leopards - Located in Lot-et-Garonne department with over 350k just down the road from Agen which supports an RU club.

Avignon - Main city in Vaucluse with catchment area of nearly 600k, part of wider Provence region of several million. Already has SL standard stadium and track record of producing players and good attendances.

Albi - Main city in Tarn department which has population of just under 400k, good stadium and got a good attendance for a Toulouse game against Leigh a few years back. Well run organisation that gets good local support
 

Wb1234

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You do know that most French clubs are tiny based in small towns don’t you? They’ve been trying to get someone to cover the French teams on tv and have failed every year. It’d be a brave/foolish investor that would put their money into French rl.
How big were x111 Catalan and st Stesve? Before they merged to form Les Catalans

you know the club that has a bigger crowd average than hull kr
 
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Wb1234

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Rubbish, the main clubs I refer to are located in regional catchment areas between 350 - 600k and are large enough to support a professional club.

Like Catalan had before they entered SL these clubs have latent support but just need some investment to professionalise their organisation.

Carcassonne - Main city in Aude Region of over 350k. The club already get significant support from local and regional councils and some of their squad players are already professional. It would not be a huge leap to progress to a fully professional outfit.

Leopards - Located in Lot-et-Garonne department with over 350k just down the road from Agen which supports an RU club.

Avignon - Main city in Vaucluse with catchment area of nearly 600k, part of wider Provence region of several million. Already has SL standard stadium and track record of producing players and good attendances.

Albi - Main city in Tarn department which has population of just under 400k, good stadium and got a good attendance for a Toulouse game against Leigh a few years back. Well run organisation that gets good local support
Marseille and Lyon
 

Perth Red

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Oh let’s just pic random French cities who have little to no interest in RL lol. whilst at it let’s have clubs in SL in Leicester, Birmingham and Glasgow. And back in the real world…….
 

Wb1234

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Rubbish, the main clubs I refer to are located in regional catchment areas between 350 - 600k and are large enough to support a professional club.

Like Catalan had before they entered SL these clubs have latent support but just need some investment to professionalise their organisation.

Carcassonne - Main city in Aude Region of over 350k. The club already get significant support from local and regional councils and some of their squad players are already professional. It would not be a huge leap to progress to a fully professional outfit.

Leopards - Located in Lot-et-Garonne department with over 350k just down the road from Agen which supports an RU club.

Avignon - Main city in Vaucluse with catchment area of nearly 600k, part of wider Provence region of several million. Already has SL standard stadium and track record of producing players and good attendances.

Albi - Main city in Tarn department which has population of just under 400k, good stadium and got a good attendance for a Toulouse game against Leigh a few years back. Well run organisation that gets good local support
Guess which super league club he supports ?

yes it’s hull kr the club who represent everything that’s wrong with the English game
 

Pippen94

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Rubbish, the main clubs I refer to are located in regional catchment areas between 350 - 600k and are large enough to support a professional club.

Like Catalan had before they entered SL these clubs have latent support but just need some investment to professionalise their organisation.

Carcassonne - Main city in Aude Region of over 350k. The club already get significant support from local and regional councils and some of their squad players are already professional. It would not be a huge leap to progress to a fully professional outfit.

Leopards - Located in Lot-et-Garonne department with over 350k just down the road from Agen which supports an RU club.

Avignon - Main city in Vaucluse with catchment area of nearly 600k, part of wider Provence region of several million. Already has SL standard stadium and track record of producing players and good attendances.

Albi - Main city in Tarn department which has population of just under 400k, good stadium and got a good attendance for a Toulouse game against Leigh a few years back. Well run organisation that gets good local support

Good luck in bypassing the existing English clubs. They do not want to make any changes or relinquish any power if it does not involve them playing in the SL.

France will be more open to change. The NRL owning/funding a France pro league will give them a footprint in Europe's biggest rugby market.

Issuing 8-10 annual club grants to french clubs to rebrand, upscale and participate in the league is all it would take.

French league not sustainable on it's own. Better to combine strongest english & french clubs in one league.
 

Pippen94

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Ten team league comprising England and France and bypassing the existing English clubs

your right about France though. They would embrace the changes required (Les Catalans are a merger) and would offer far greater potential growth

Ten teams is too small. Would have to play each other atleast 3 times each.
 

Brian potter

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Oh let’s just pic random French cities who have little to no interest in RL lol. whilst at it let’s have clubs in SL in Leicester, Birmingham and Glasgow. And back in the real world…….
Sad thing is pre(mostly) and post WW2 rugby league was not only played in cities like Lyon, Marseille and Bordeaux etc but was actually quite strong .
 

Perth Red

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Any idea how SL is tracking on FTA ? How many games are shown ? What's the viewership ?
15 games per season will be shown across the BBC,
10 on network television/BBC iplayer
5 across the BBC iPlayer/BBC Sport website

audience has ranged from 65k-150k avg. Even when on FTA its buried on BBC3.

They obviously offered more $'s than Ch4 but Beeb has a very long history of shtting on the game and treating it poorly, I was surprised they didnt stick with Ch4 who were doing a great job and a fresh approach.

ch4 had 10 games a year and drew over 200k avg audience with some games hitting peaks of 500k.

The deal is for 3 years, '24-27
 

taste2taste

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15 games per season will be shown across the BBC,
10 on network television/BBC iplayer
5 across the BBC iPlayer/BBC Sport website

audience has ranged from 65k-150k avg. Even when on FTA its buried on BBC3.

They obviously offered more $'s than Ch4 but Beeb has a very long history of shtting on the game and treating it poorly, I was surprised they didnt stick with Ch4 who were doing a great job and a fresh approach.

ch4 had 10 games a year and drew over 200k avg audience with some games hitting peaks of 500k.

The deal is for 3 years, '24-27
Geeez, based on those numbers going with the BBC was a poor decision.

Maybe the NRL can teach the SL how to negotiate a TV deal.

Yes, that was tounge in cheek to wind you up ;)
 

Wb1234

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Geeez, based on those numbers going with the BBC was a poor decision.

Maybe the NRL can teach the SL how to negotiate a TV deal.

Yes, that was tounge in cheek to wind you up ;)
That’s double what they get on sky to be fair

160 k viewing out of 60 million plus is a reflection of where the sport is in England
 

Perth Red

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That’s double what they get on sky to be fair

160 k viewing out of 60 million plus is a reflection of where the sport is in England
Cats v Wigan got a peak of 133k on BBC3 and peak of 126k on Sky plus Digital viewing on the new Superleague+ platform.
The St's v Cats game peaked at 327,000 on Sky alone.

It is what it is, it has taken 23 years just to get top division RL back on FTA in any form. Big step forward achieving that, now need to build on it.
 

taste2taste

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That’s double what they get on sky to be fair

160 k viewing out of 60 million plus is a reflection of where the sport is in England

It's not like league used to be a huge and by its own incompetence has become niche.

It could be argued the SL is in career best form, near record crowds last season, all games televised and games on FTA.

In IMG we trust !!
 

Wb1234

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Cats v Wigan got a peak of 133k on BBC3 and peak of 126k on Sky plus Digital viewing on the new Superleague+ platform.
The St's v Cats game peaked at 327,000 on Sky alone.

It is what it is, it has taken 23 years just to get top division RL back on FTA in any form. Big step forward achieving that, now need to build on it.
Peak ? Lol who ever use those figures
It's not like league used to be a huge and by its own incompetence has become niche.

It could be argued the SL is in career best form, near record crowds last season, all games televised and games on FTA.

In IMG we trust !!
career best lowest tv deal ever

20 million quid pa
 
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