NRL2 Second Division

[Pippen94]

Show me the article then

No

 

[Colk]

No

Haha because you haven’t read it? Fair enough

 

[Pippen94]

Haha because you haven’t read it? Fair enough

You can't demand somebody provides you an article from site with paywall. Go pay for it

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Add the Raiders to that list as well. There has been a fair few clubs that have gone broke in the NRL.

Raiders are one of the more asset rich clubs in the NRL. They've been very smart over the last 15 years.

 

[Colk]

You can't demand somebody provides you an article from site with paywall. Go pay for it

Did you pay for it? Did you read it? Or did you just look at the headline?

 

[The Great Dane]

If my memory is correct, Cowboys were speaking about the need to upgrade their facilities to stay competitive with the other clubs. Clubs have state of the art facilities for fitness and training.

Yeah they were applying for $30mil in funding to build their high performance centre. The claims of potential financial ruin were highly sensationalist.

I don't have access to that specific article (who'd pay for that shit), but here are a couple links with detail on what happened-

https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/92054
https://www.coliseum-online.com/cowboys-training-centre-beacon-of-hope/

TL/DR, Pippen is just being dishonest again.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yeah they were applying for $30mil in funding to build their high performance centre. The claims of potential financial ruin were highly sensationalist.

I don't have access to that specific article (who'd pay for that shit), but here are a couple links with detail on what happened-

https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/92054
https://www.coliseum-online.com/cowboys-training-centre-beacon-of-hope/

TL/DR, Pippen is just being dishonest again.

I hope the $20m loan we took out doesn't end up becoming a noose around our neck. The Titans were done in by their CoE shortly after the GFC.

 

[siv]

I hope the $20m loan we took out doesn't end up becoming a noose around our neck. The Titans were done in by their CoE shortly after the GFC.

Titans financial problems were in 2014 well after GFC

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Titans financial problems were in 2014 well after GFC

Their debt was tied to the CoE. The contracts for the CoE were draw up just before the GFC. Then the GFC hit and it forced them to spend more money than planned as the cost of labour and materials sky-rocketed and money from sponsors and attendances dried up as people were feeling the pinch. It hung around their neck like a noose for years, building up debt until Michael Searle was forced to admit the operation was bust.

 

[siv]

Their debt was tied to the CoE. The contracts for the CoE were draw up just before the GFC. Then the GFC hit and it forced them to spend more money than planned as the cost of labour and materials sky-rocketed and money from sponsors and attendances dried up as people were feeling the pinch. It hung around their neck like a noose for years, building up debt until Michael Searle was forced to admit the operation was bust.

Just another example of a regional club falling over

Happens way too often

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Just another example of a regional club falling over

Happens way too often

Like Cronulla a few years back?

St George?

Wests Tigers?

Souths before Holmes-a-Court and Crowe bailed them out?

I forgot, they're from Sydney.

 

[Rod Coil]

Like Cronulla a few years back?

St George?

Wests Tigers?

Souths before Holmes-a-Court and Crowe bailed them out?

I forgot, they're from Sydney.

Fake news. None of those clubs ‘fell over’.

 

[siv]

Souths before Holmes-a-Court and Crowe bailed them out?

Souths were never bailed out by the NRL, the members voted to be privatised

And are now one of the strongest clubs on all metrics

 

[siv]

Like Cronulla a few years back?

St George?

Wests Tigers?

Souths before Holmes-a-Court and Crowe bailed them out?

I forgot, they're from Sydney.

Agree none of those clubs ever went into administration like the Warriors did twice or Gold Coast multiple times or Newcastle

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Fake news. None of those clubs ‘fell over’.

PVL begged Greenberg not to relocate Cronulla nor kick them out when they were in trouble a few years ago.

Wests and St George needed financial assistance.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Souths were never bailed out by the NRL, the members voted to be privatised

And are now one of the strongest clubs on all metrics

They were struggling to compete and needed to privatise to be where they are today. There's a reason they were given the boot in 1999.

 

[siv]

They were struggling to compete and needed to privatise to be where they are today. There's a reason they were given the boot in 1999.

No that was the flawed criteria that protected regional clubs that went bust a few years later

 

[xe_kilroy]

If you're going to create an NRL-2, with a lot of the "usual suspect" regions included, the well to draw from are the clubs already in both the QLD and NSW Cups. The QLD Cup has a better mix of regions tho so you'd have to shake up and rationalize the teams in the NSW Cup to include CC, Campbelltown, a couple country teams, and a NZ-2.

Those two leagues don't even have to merge, they can be treated as two conferences. H&A against own conference, a single game against all the other teams in the other conference, and then the top 4 from each conference moving to a playoff format to crown an ultimate champion.

 

[ATOWN2]

Instead of having a reserves comp it would be better just increasing the size of the NRL and putting teams in from Perth, Adelaide and Wellington. These teams would then face the same predicament as the Storm in that the local comps are too weak for the players that aren't getting a game. Therefore, they'd all have to place their reserve players in either the NSW or QLD Cup.

 

[The Lounge Lizard]

And what about the cities that will never get an NRL club? Its taken 23 years to expand the NRL by 2 clubs.

How's the Hobart Hellraisers sound? You're a goose of highest order.