NRL's growth mindset points to 18th team. And it ain't Perth.

[Perth Red]

Why have the Hunters only had 1 or 2 players in 7 seasons?

Why arent the hunters with a rl mad country and the biggest jnr base in the world to pick a side from winning qrl and interstate cups every year? Money is the answer.

 

[Perth Red]

Does anyone know who’s playing in the Perth double header next year?

Souths have announced they are playing a game at optus stadium so I presume it’s going to be a double header.

South Sydney Rabbitohs – Article

The South Sydney Rabbitohs have confirmed their home venues for the 2023 season today as Rabbitohs Membership goes on sale for 2023 this week.

www.rabbitohs.com.au

 

[Perth Red]

Numbers are numbers, dont mean shit, all you care about is the current broadcast deal, we are talking talent from regions that produce it, not clubs that dont exist in perth wanting a 1st grade licence... if the pathways work and link up with a qrl side like easts, then why do we need perth?

2billion plus reasons lol metro cities equal revenue for nrl.

 

[Perth Red]

Ca

I can’t read the article but it has something to do with the actual thread rather than reserve grade

High-powered working group to make Perth NRL team a reality

The McGowan Government has upped the ante in its efforts to get a WA-based NRL team, forming a high-powered working group to make a Perth franchise a reality.

thewest.com.au

Can anyone cut and paste please?

 

[Colk]

Yeh Perth is nailed on

proactive state govt gets their their state a team

other places that are desperate for a team need their govt to step up with their chequebooks

I feel for the dolphins vlandys should’ve made it a condition of the license a new 300 million stadium at Redcliffe especially with that states infrastructure spend up to the Olympics

for Perth the arlc should demand 100 milllion plus upgrade to their ground as it’s not fit in its current state for a new team and a minimum spend each year on juniors (say 5 million pa)

Maybe/maybe not. They might be spending this money to convince the NRL that they should be given the licence and the NRL still aren’t convinced. Who knows but it is good to see an area desperately wanting a side because that will obviously make it more likely to succeed.

Disagree. The second Brisbane side should play all their games at Suncorp. It’s a magnificent facility and should be used as much as possible.

I think they have already decided to upgrade the stadium if they got the licence so I think the first step would be a foregone. They would obviously agree to the second step (I don’t know the amount) but I think that is a condition on every licence now and it was announced with the Dolphins.

 

[Wb1234]

Maybe/maybe not. They might be spending this money to convince the NRL that they should be given the licence and the NRL still aren’t convinced. Who knows but it is good to see an area desperately wanting a side because that will obviously make it more likely to succeed.

Disagree. The second Brisbane side should play all their games at Suncorp. It’s a magnificent facility and should be used as much as possible.

I think they have already decided to upgrade the stadium if they got the licence so I think the first step would be a foregone. They would obviously agree to the second step (I don’t know the amount) but I think that is a condition on every licence now and it was announced with the Dolphins.

Afl is demanding 750 mill for a new tassie stadium for them to get a license

vkandys should’ve done this with the dolphins and also should do it with Perth

the government are asking what it takes to get the spot

time to give them the rugby league shopping list

and a new 300 mill stadium in Redcliffe is better than Suncorp for the phins

long term it’s where they are going to end up except maybe the derby games vs other qld aides at Suncorp

 

[Iamback]

Maybe/maybe not. They might be spending this money to convince the NRL that they should be given the licence and the NRL still aren’t convinced. Who knows but it is good to see an area desperately wanting a side because that will obviously make it more likely to succeed.

Disagree. The second Brisbane side should play all their games at Suncorp. It’s a magnificent facility and should be used as much as possible.

I think they have already decided to upgrade the stadium if they got the licence so I think the first step would be a foregone. They would obviously agree to the second step (I don’t know the amount) but I think that is a condition on every licence now and it was announced with the Dolphins.

Playing out of only Suncorp have them as a Broncos mark 2
The aim should be to get new sponsors/areas involved you don't get that other wise

 

[Canard]

Yeh Perth is nailed on

proactive state govt gets their their state a team

other places that are desperate for a team need their govt to step up with their chequebooks

I feel for the dolphins vlandys should’ve made it a condition of the license a new 300 million stadium at Redcliffe especially with that states infrastructure spend up to the Olympics

for Perth the arlc should demand 100 milllion plus upgrade to their ground as it’s not fit in its current state for a new team and a minimum spend each year on juniors (say 5 million pa)

Dolphins to QLD govt "We demand you spend half a billion on a stadium!"

Qld govt "or what?"

Dolphins "We won't enter a team in the NRL!"

QLD Govt "Do you even bargain, bro?"

 

[Canard]

Playing out of only Suncorp have them as a Broncos mark 2
The aim should be to get new sponsors/areas involved you don't get that other wise

So you think the only way to attract new sponsors is to build a $0.5B stadium?

 

[Iamback]

So you think the only way to attract new sponsors is to build a $0.5B stadium?

How many Brisbane based Sponsors are screaming out to have a team to sponsor?

All the QLD derbies will be a Suncorp
Magic Round
V Storm

So you have 6 at the minimum, If Support is warranted more will be there if not playing just to North of Brisbane works

 

[Colk]

Playing out of only Suncorp have them as a Broncos mark 2
The aim should be to get new sponsors/areas involved you don't get that other wise

How is that a bad thing? The Broncos are the most successful brand in the NRL.
Also, Brisbane has a population of what two and a bit million and growing rapidly to something like 4 million over the next 20 years. I don’t really get this argument that there wouldn’t be enough sponsors in a city this size and we need to put another side on the outskirts of a city like we have done with Sydney.

 

[Bukowski]

Ca

Can anyone cut and paste please?

Has anyone read it?

 

[Colk]

Has anyone read it?

I haven’t and I posted it. I’m sure somebody could but I’m not technologically minded

 

[Bukowski]

I haven’t and I posted it. I’m sure somebody could but I’m not technologically minded

I can't work around firewalls either.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

How is that a bad thing? The Broncos are the most successful brand in the NRL.
Also, Brisbane has a population of what two and a bit million and growing rapidly to something like 4 million over the next 20 years. I don’t really get this argument that there wouldn’t be enough sponsors in a city this size and we need to put another side on the outskirts of a city like we have done with Sydney.

Is he still claiming Sydney has sponsors lining up to fund its teams and Brisbane don't?

LOL

Broncos $12.7m.
Dolphins $10m.
Cowboys $8.9m.
Sharks $4m.
Bulldogs $3.6m.

All of that is from annual reports, except Dolphins which was published in the media.

 

[Wb1234]

Dolphins to QLD govt "We demand you spend half a billion on a stadium!"

Qld govt "or what?"

Dolphins "We won't enter a team in the NRL!"

QLD Govt "Do you even bargain, bro?"

Lmao this response is peak lu

the titans got a new stadium out of the qld govt

twmsania are going to build a new stadium and they don’t have a team

but sure a qld govt would lose an nrl team over not building a new stadium for them

 

[flippikat]

McGowan Government ups ante in new push for WA-based NRL team


Joe Spagnolo
The West Australian
Sun, 30 October 2022 2:00AM

The State Government has upped the ante in its efforts to get a WA-based National Rugby League team, forming a high-powered working group to make a Perth franchise a reality.
The Sunday Times can reveal the Government has appointed Labor politician Peter Tinley as chair of a working group which will “help facilitate the development of a third-party bid” to be the competition’s 18th team.

VenuesWest has also appointed consultants Freshwater Strategy to gauge “interest from potential third parties and determine the most appropriate bid structure”.
“There is huge interest on the east coast in having a WA team in the NRL competition,” Tourism Minister Roger Cook told The Sunday Times.

“It makes sense on so many levels.
“We have the best stadium in Australia, a fan base that is growing quickly and the time difference works well for TV schedules.”
Cook said if the NRL “wants to have a truly national competition,” then a Perth team was a must. “This is a great step to thoroughly investigate how a bid for the 18th team could work,” Cook said.

WA has not had a team in the professional league for more than two decades.
The NRL is an extension of the NSWRL.
In the 1990s, the Australian Rugby League and Super League were vying over broadcasting rights.

This lead to the NRL as we now know it and Perth-based Western Reds were cut from the league when the merged national competition was formed.
It means WA has been a virtual outcast when it comes to the national stage of rugby league.

The North Sydney Bears have already made noises about being the competition’s 18th team.


The rugby league spotlight again fell on Perth earlier this year with a successful State or Origin game at Optus Stadium, more than 59,000 fans attending.
In that game, the Blues squared the series with a 44-12 win over the Maroons.

Nearly 7000 visitors from outside WA were at the game — spending an estimated $13.3 million while in Perth.
“Two recent sell out State of Origin fixtures demonstrates that there is a strong and growing appetite for rugby league in Western Australia,” Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman said.

“A WA-based NRL team would bring long term community, tourism and economic benefits to the state and grow and grow local participation in grass root sport, particularly female participation.”
The Redcliffe Dolphins will join the NRL next year as Queenlsland’s fourth side and the 17th team overall.

There is talk of a possible 18th team in the near future, particularly as the introduction of the Dolphins will leave an odd number of teams in the NRL.
The North Sydney Bears have already made noises about being the competition’s 18th team and there is talk WA could combine with the Bears in a possible alliance.

Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman has already spoken with NRL powerbrokers about WA joining the national league.

Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman has already spoken with NRL powerbrokers about WA joining the national league.

Bears officials were in Perth for the State of Origin game.
“Although the State Government won’t be leading the bid or responsible for a potential franchise, we are confident that there will be a strong and compelling case for a WA-based team,” Mr Templeman.
“WA’s nation leading economy provides an enormous opportunity for the NRL to maximise corporate support and fan spending.”

The government’s working group, aside from Mr Tinley as chair, will comprise VenuesWest, and Treasury representatives as well as representatives from Mr Templeman’s and Mr McGowan’s office.

“There are so many West Australian rugby league fans who are looking forward to the day when they can support a WA based team,” Mr Tinley said.
“WA has strong foundations to support an NRL franchise with participation in the sport behind only NSW and Queensland, and encouragingly, nearly a quarter of all registered players are female.
“I look forward to seeing the development of a strong third-party bid and working with them in securing an NLR franchise for Western Australians.”

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[Canard]

Lmao this response is peak lu

the titans got a new stadium out of the qld govt

twmsania are going to build a new stadium and they don’t have a team

but sure a qld govt would lose an nrl team over not building a new stadium for them

Robina Stadium was signed off on almost 20 years ago, in a region that hadn't had anything above park level before.

Tasmania's yearly state budget is only 8B they aren't building a $750M to 1B stadium in our lifetime.

Suncorp is the best RL ground in the world, in the best location, and it goes unused for half of every NRL season. There is no financial need or political will to build a new stadium in Brisbane.

 

[Canard]

McGowan Government ups ante in new push for WA-based NRL team


Joe Spagnolo
The West Australian
Sun, 30 October 2022 2:00AM

The State Government has upped the ante in its efforts to get a WA-based National Rugby League team, forming a high-powered working group to make a Perth franchise a reality.
The Sunday Times can reveal the Government has appointed Labor politician Peter Tinley as chair of a working group which will “help facilitate the development of a third-party bid” to be the competition’s 18th team.

VenuesWest has also appointed consultants Freshwater Strategy to gauge “interest from potential third parties and determine the most appropriate bid structure”.
“There is huge interest on the east coast in having a WA team in the NRL competition,” Tourism Minister Roger Cook told The Sunday Times.

“It makes sense on so many levels.
“We have the best stadium in Australia, a fan base that is growing quickly and the time difference works well for TV schedules.”
Cook said if the NRL “wants to have a truly national competition,” then a Perth team was a must. “This is a great step to thoroughly investigate how a bid for the 18th team could work,” Cook said.

WA has not had a team in the professional league for more than two decades.
The NRL is an extension of the NSWRL.
In the 1990s, the Australian Rugby League and Super League were vying over broadcasting rights.

This lead to the NRL as we now know it and Perth-based Western Reds were cut from the league when the merged national competition was formed.
It means WA has been a virtual outcast when it comes to the national stage of rugby league.

The North Sydney Bears have already made noises about being the competition’s 18th team.


The rugby league spotlight again fell on Perth earlier this year with a successful State or Origin game at Optus Stadium, more than 59,000 fans attending.
In that game, the Blues squared the series with a 44-12 win over the Maroons.

Nearly 7000 visitors from outside WA were at the game — spending an estimated $13.3 million while in Perth.
“Two recent sell out State of Origin fixtures demonstrates that there is a strong and growing appetite for rugby league in Western Australia,” Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman said.

“A WA-based NRL team would bring long term community, tourism and economic benefits to the state and grow and grow local participation in grass root sport, particularly female participation.”
The Redcliffe Dolphins will join the NRL next year as Queenlsland’s fourth side and the 17th team overall.

There is talk of a possible 18th team in the near future, particularly as the introduction of the Dolphins will leave an odd number of teams in the NRL.
The North Sydney Bears have already made noises about being the competition’s 18th team and there is talk WA could combine with the Bears in a possible alliance.

Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman has already spoken with NRL powerbrokers about WA joining the national league.

Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman has already spoken with NRL powerbrokers about WA joining the national league.

Bears officials were in Perth for the State of Origin game.
“Although the State Government won’t be leading the bid or responsible for a potential franchise, we are confident that there will be a strong and compelling case for a WA-based team,” Mr Templeman.
“WA’s nation leading economy provides an enormous opportunity for the NRL to maximise corporate support and fan spending.”

The government’s working group, aside from Mr Tinley as chair, will comprise VenuesWest, and Treasury representatives as well as representatives from Mr Templeman’s and Mr McGowan’s office.

“There are so many West Australian rugby league fans who are looking forward to the day when they can support a WA based team,” Mr Tinley said.
“WA has strong foundations to support an NRL franchise with participation in the sport behind only NSW and Queensland, and encouragingly, nearly a quarter of all registered players are female.
“I look forward to seeing the development of a strong third-party bid and working with them in securing an NLR franchise for Western Australians.”

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That clearly reads like the is pushing for Optus Stadium to be the NRL ground.

Based on that, and that the Govt is facilitating it, doesn't seem to make the Bears frontrunners in any way.

 

[Brick Tamland]

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7961961/wa-lines-up-to-back-state-based-nrl-team/?cs=9676

WA lines up to back state-based NRL team​

Updated October 30 2022 - 2:18pm, first published 2:14pm

Western Australia has kicked off a campaign for a state-based National Rugby League franchise beyond 2023. Work is now underway to find a third party bid the Labor government can support, amid expectations the NRL will expand to 18 teams from 17 after next season.

A cross-agency government working group chaired by Labor MP Peter Tinley has been set up to support the development of a third-party bid and assist the bid through the potential bidding process.

Preliminary work has already begun with consultants Freshwater Strategy to determine interest from potential third parties and the most appropriate bid structure, the government said on Sunday.

Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman said the two recent sellout State of Origin matches showed there was a strong and growing appetite for rugby league in WA.
"A WA-based NRL team would bring long term community, tourism and economic benefits to the state and grow local participation in grassroots sport, particularly female participation," he said.
"Although the state government won't be leading the bid or responsible for a potential franchise, we are confident that there will be a strong and compelling case for a WA-based team."
Community rugby league in WA currently numbers 4100 registered players.