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NRL's growth mindset points to 18th team. And it ain't Perth.

Iamback

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that’s instead of them playing at Suncorp the govt is finding their new stadium

guess it’s only rugby league clubs who shouldn’t benefit ?

oh and 70 million for the fumblers new ground at Springfield and a few billion on the Gabba for the lions benefit

Gabba is close to Suncorps capacity, Cities of that size need Stadiums of varying sizes
 
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Suncorp is the best RL ground in the world, in the best location, and it goes unused for half of every NRL season. There is no financial need or political will to build a new stadium in Brisbane.
So why are you against a third Brisbane team?

It would ensure Lang Park is used every week. Sometimes twice on the same weekend. More derbies. Great for RL.
 
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McGowan Government ups ante in new push for WA-based NRL team


Joe Spagnolo
The West Australian
Sun, 30 October 2022 2:00AM

The State Government has upped the ante in its efforts to get a WA-based National Rugby League team, forming a high-powered working group to make a Perth franchise a reality.
The Sunday Times can reveal the Government has appointed Labor politician Peter Tinley as chair of a working group which will “help facilitate the development of a third-party bid” to be the competition’s 18th team.

VenuesWest has also appointed consultants Freshwater Strategy to gauge “interest from potential third parties and determine the most appropriate bid structure”.
“There is huge interest on the east coast in having a WA team in the NRL competition,” Tourism Minister Roger Cook told The Sunday Times.

“It makes sense on so many levels.
“We have the best stadium in Australia, a fan base that is growing quickly and the time difference works well for TV schedules.”
Cook said if the NRL “wants to have a truly national competition,” then a Perth team was a must. “This is a great step to thoroughly investigate how a bid for the 18th team could work,” Cook said.

WA has not had a team in the professional league for more than two decades.
The NRL is an extension of the NSWRL.
In the 1990s, the Australian Rugby League and Super League were vying over broadcasting rights.

This lead to the NRL as we now know it and Perth-based Western Reds were cut from the league when the merged national competition was formed.
It means WA has been a virtual outcast when it comes to the national stage of rugby league.
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The North Sydney Bears have already made noises about being the competition’s 18th team.


The rugby league spotlight again fell on Perth earlier this year with a successful State or Origin game at Optus Stadium, more than 59,000 fans attending.
In that game, the Blues squared the series with a 44-12 win over the Maroons.

Nearly 7000 visitors from outside WA were at the game — spending an estimated $13.3 million while in Perth.
“Two recent sell out State of Origin fixtures demonstrates that there is a strong and growing appetite for rugby league in Western Australia,” Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman said.

“A WA-based NRL team would bring long term community, tourism and economic benefits to the state and grow and grow local participation in grass root sport, particularly female participation.”
The Redcliffe Dolphins will join the NRL next year as Queenlsland’s fourth side and the 17th team overall.

There is talk of a possible 18th team in the near future, particularly as the introduction of the Dolphins will leave an odd number of teams in the NRL.
The North Sydney Bears have already made noises about being the competition’s 18th team and there is talk WA could combine with the Bears in a possible alliance.

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Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman has already spoken with NRL powerbrokers about WA joining the national league.

Sport and Recreation Minister David Templeman has already spoken with NRL powerbrokers about WA joining the national league.

Bears officials were in Perth for the State of Origin game.
“Although the State Government won’t be leading the bid or responsible for a potential franchise, we are confident that there will be a strong and compelling case for a WA-based team,” Mr Templeman.
“WA’s nation leading economy provides an enormous opportunity for the NRL to maximise corporate support and fan spending.”

The government’s working group, aside from Mr Tinley as chair, will comprise VenuesWest, and Treasury representatives as well as representatives from Mr Templeman’s and Mr McGowan’s office.

“There are so many West Australian rugby league fans who are looking forward to the day when they can support a WA based team,” Mr Tinley said.
“WA has strong foundations to support an NRL franchise with participation in the sport behind only NSW and Queensland, and encouragingly, nearly a quarter of all registered players are female.
“I look forward to seeing the development of a strong third-party bid and working with them in securing an NLR franchise for Western Australians.”


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Best news I've heard all year!

Now the usual suspects from down south who've been championing "The Bears" as a fait accompli -- like they did when talking about the 16th and 17th licence -- can STFU go back to playing with their crayons and colouring books.
 
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Thanks the posting. I don't know what more the NRL want. WA has fans, juniors, backers, govt support and 2 stadiums. And good time zone for tv.
They're pretty dopey if they don't jump on it.
The NRL is run by narrow-minded and self-serving people from Sydney who refuse to adapt to the 21st century. They still use the bullshit junior catchment from NRL level downwards that has never worked and reject Adelaide and Perth for not adopting this archaic system. Basically, NSWRL fans think everything they do is "right" and needs to be done by everyone else. They'll never accept the possibility that maybe their system is shit and should be done away with because that would mean they are backwards, which is something they cannot contemplate as they think they're superior to everyone.

Just look at the posts on this site referring to Queenslanders as "hillbillies", "banjo-strumming yokels" and "two-headed" to see my point. There's NSWRL fans on this board who think grounds need to have a hill on the eastern sideline for people to sit on!
 
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Canard

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that’s instead of them playing at Suncorp the govt is finding their new stadium

guess it’s only rugby league clubs who shouldn’t benefit ?

oh and 70 million for the fumblers new ground at Springfield and a few billion on the Gabba for the lions benefit

From the article itself

"more aligned to being a training, club participation and administrative hub for rugby and compatible sports as opposed to being a location for a major stadium.”

Also

- No funding commitment from the Govt


So it's an unfunded vision of a training facility.
 

westerntiger

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Apparently getting a few billion on it

all this money thrown at stadia in Brisbane and none for rugby league
NRL sucks at diplomacy. AFL have aggressive expansionist ambitions. They wan't rugby league wiped from the map. Time the NRL took more serious measures to curtail the presence of Australian rules in our heartlands.
 

Canard

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NRL sucks at diplomacy. AFL have aggressive expansionist ambitions. They wan't rugby league wiped from the map. Time the NRL took more serious measures to curtail the presence of Australian rules in our heartlands.

There is NO funding of any stadia in Brisbane by the QLD govt.

A kick around area with a dressing room is not a stadium
 

Colk

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Typical politician bs

he’s meaning origin games are played there and maybe the season opener for Perth nrl team

hope this isn’t an excuse for them thinking hbf doesn’t need a serious makeover

if they are to get a team they need all the help they can get and vlandys better be asking for it now with the government so keen

They have already stated that they will upgrade HBF Park if they get a side. They aren’t going to upgrade without that promise.

In any case the ground from what I can see wouldn’t be worse than Leichhardt Oval or Shark Park.
 
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Because it's an over saturation for the QLD market in 2022.

Maybe in 2042 it may make sense.

By 2033 there will be more than enough people in Brisbane to support three teams.

If you think 2.4 million people cannot support three teams, why do you rally to the defence of Sydney's nine clubs when the city only has 5 million?

If you're true to your word you will advocate for Sydney to be rationalised down to four teams.
 

Colk

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By 2033 there will be more than enough people in Brisbane to support three teams.

If you think 2.4 million people cannot support three teams, why do you rally to the defence of Sydney's nine clubs when the city only has 5 million?

If you're true to your word you will advocate for Sydney to be rationalised down to four teams.

The argument though is why repeat what happened in Sydney.

I would wait to see how the Dolphins go first. Also the Titans still aren’t in the greatest position yet in terms of memberships and on field performance
 

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By 2033 there will be more than enough people in Brisbane to support three teams.

If you think 2.4 million people cannot support three teams, why do you rally to the defence of Sydney's nine clubs when the city only has 5 million?

If you're true to your word you will advocate for Sydney to be rationalised down to four teams.

Reducing the NRL by 5 teams? No I wouldn't advocate for that.

And some childish attempt to convince me, isn't going to work
 
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The argument though is why repeat what happened in Sydney.

I would wait to see how the Dolphins go first. Also the Titans still aren’t in the greatest position yet in terms of memberships and on field performance

Three teams in Brisbane isn't repeating what happened in Sydney.

Brisbane 2022 = 2.4m
Sydney 2022 = 5m

Gold Coast isn't part of the Brisbane metropolitan area. Using them to argue against Brisbane 3 is like saying the Knights' woes are due to Sydney having too many teams.

Reducing the NRL by 5 teams? No I wouldn't advocate for that.

And some childish attempt to convince me, isn't going to work

So you're a hypocrite saying Brisbane should be held to a different standard to Sydney?

You've seen the annual financial reports regarding worth to sponsors.

Broncos $12.9m
Dolphins $10m.

Sharks $4m.
Bulldogs $3.6

Brisbane isn't over saturated.

The Gabba is understandable, where else are you going to hold them? The Albion greyhound track?

That's not a function of any lobbying by the AFL however

Why not redesign QEII Stadium and use it to host IAAF events?

Alexander Stadium was given a new stand for the Commonwealth Games and will host IAAF events.

I never said anything about the AFL.
 
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Wb1234

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They have already stated that they will upgrade HBF Park if they get a side. They aren’t going to upgrade without that promise.

In any case the ground from what I can see wouldn’t be worse than Leichhardt Oval or Shark Park.
It’s better than those but not by much

its way behind all the qld stadiums , Melb and the upgraded stadia in Sydney

even with an upgrade it won’t be as good as melb
 

Wb1234

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From the article itself

"more aligned to being a training, club participation and administrative hub for rugby and compatible sports as opposed to being a location for a major stadium.”

Also

- No funding commitment from the Govt


So it's an unfunded vision of a training facility.

Don’t you even know what’s going on in your state

yes it is govt funded
 

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