NRL's growth mindset points to 18th team. And it ain't Perth.

[Perth Red]

Here's the stands for those that might not have been. East and South were built in 2012. Capacity is 20,500 and there are around 50 open air corporate boxes and 15 closed boxes dotted around the stadium.

East (main) stand

South Stand

North stand

West Stand

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

put a new corporate west stand up and cover south stand and its better than other nrl stadiums except the new ones. Like a smaller but more compact version of Newcastles stadium. Get it to 25k-27k and it will be perfect size for us for at least a few decades. Then when a mining boom comes along and they can justify leaving it they can build us a new one at Burswood!

Out of 20 odd stadiums used in NRL it will sit around 7th (8th if penrith gets built) in the table when next stage of development is done.

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A new western stand that blends in with the one on the eastern side should be the priority. The northern stand can be done in the future. Maybe put a roof on the southern one to blend in with the eastern and new western stand so it looks like it travels all the way around the ground like a horseshoe.

 

[Perth Red]

North West end will be impacted be the road aswell. Not sure they could fit a full length of the field grandstand in.
Eastern stand is a good as Commbank's east stand

yeh it pinches a bit in that corner but there's a bit of space behind there, its car park not road. But it would mean some tree removal and we know how well that goes down!
They could do a 3/4 length corporate stand that flows into an all seater section for the last third maybe, that would require less structure behind it at that end. Im sure some creative designer could make it all fit.

 

[Perth Red]

A new western stand that blends in with the one on the eastern side should be the priority. The northern stand can be done in the future. Maybe put a roof on the southern one to blend in with the eastern and new western stand so it looks like it travels all the way around the ground like a horseshoe.

South stand was designed to have a roof in same style as east stand added at a later day. Yeh Id put a roof on there and add a new West stand.
If they wanted to get nearer 30k and spend more they could fill the south stand corners in and wrap the roof from east right around south and into new west stand. During the nines they filled one of the South stand corners with a temp fan zone area that was quite cool.
North stand is ok as is for now. We could put a Tampa Bay style Pirate ship in the North stand upper corner, that would be fun!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

North West end will be impacted be the road aswell. Not sure they could fit a full length of the field grandstand in.
Eastern stand is a good as Commbank's east stand

The new western stand could be made solely for the corporate sector. That way the regular fans will flock to the eastern stand, giving the game a good presentation on television. Nothing worse than seeing a near full or sold out western stand at Lang Park with a quarter full eastern stand.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

South stand was designed to have a roof in same style as east stand added at a later day. Yeh Id put a roof on there and new West stand . North stand is ok as is for now. We could put a Tampa Bay style Pirate ship in the North stand upper corner, that would be cool!

I like the idea of a pirate ship as it'll make the ground stand out. The Pirates brand will be stuck in people's minds when they see the pirate ship. Things like that will help our game gain an advantage over the other second-tier sports in Perth.

 

[Perth Red]

I like the idea of a pirate ship as it'll make the ground stand out. The Pirates brand will be stuck in people's minds when they see the pirate ship. Things like that will help our game gain an advantage over the other second-tier sports in Perth.

yeh would be fun for sure. Other thing they could do at North end would be to extend the shed terracing across full length. That would add an extra 2000 or so to capacity cheaply. Again would be unique for NRL to have a decent sized standing terraced end.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

As I mentioned before that boat sailed in 2012. Having invested $160mill so far in HBF park there's no way a Govt can justify walking away from it now to spend a further $300mill plus somewhere else. Real shame and very short sighted by the Govt at the time but it is what it is now so we have to now campaign to make HBF park as good as it can be.
The frustrating thing is there is a parcel of land sitting between crown towers and Optus stadium that would be perfect and having spent hundreds of millions on the Burswood infrastructure for Optus it would have made total sense to put another stadium there. Oh well no one said Govt's were very bright most of the time!

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Blame Gallop and company for sitting on their arse and not expanding into Perth despite being approached by multiple bidders from the market. The actions of the Sydney-centric NRL have had dire and irreversible consequences for the game outside of Sydney. They've made life harder for new franchises in Adelaide and Perth and given our main competition a huge free kick in Brisbane.

 

[Reflector]

Reducing the NRL by 5 teams? No I wouldn't advocate for that.

And some childish attempt to convince me, isn't going to work

Clearly you're just an arrogant, blinkered NSWRL sycophant mate.

Back to your colouring books and let the grown-ups take care of setting up Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne #2 and Singapore.

 

[Perth Red]

Blame Gallop and company for sitting on their arse and not expanding into Perth despite being approached by multiple bidders from the market. The actions of the Sydney-centric NRL have had dire and irreversible consequences for the game outside of Sydney. They've made life harder for new franchises in Adelaide and Perth and given our main competition a huge free kick in Brisbane.

Whilst the lack of strategic direction by the NRL hasnt helped we cant blame them for this one. Back in 2010 there was major rumblings that Perth would get an NRL club coming in for the new tv contract. That along with the, at the time, successful Force needing a home stadium led to the Govt deciding to spend $125mill redeveloping what was a pretty shoddy NIB stadium. Ironically the seemingly positive vibe around Perth getting an NRL club back then led to this bad decision in hindsight lol

Sadly the Lib leader at the time didnt have the foresight to build Optus and a new rectangular stadium together on same site.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

yeh would be fun for sure. Other thing they could do at North end would be to extend the shed terracing across full length. That would add an extra 2000 or so to capacity cheaply. Again would be unique for NRL to have a decent sized standing terraced end.

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If the western stand is made specifically for corporates then a couple of small ships could be placed along the NW and SE corners for kids to play on. It could even be used for childcare during the week.

 

[Wb1234]

You been there?

Nah

but there’s this thing called google it’s really handy these days

HBF Park

HBF Park is a state-of-the art rectangular stadium providing world class sporting and concert events to all fans. It is home to A-League team, Perth Glory and Premier Rugby Club, Western Force.

www.hbfpark.com.au

Look at that second tier it’s looking over the roof below

and there’s Various other stands next to it

and there is no roof cover

 

[Perth Red]

Nah

but there’s this thing called google it’s really handy these days

HBF Park

HBF Park is a state-of-the art rectangular stadium providing world class sporting and concert events to all fans. It is home to A-League team, Perth Glory and Premier Rugby Club, Western Force.

www.hbfpark.com.au

Look at that second tier it’s looking over the roof below

and there’s Various other stands next to it

and there is no roof cover

Tell me you know nothing about perth without telling me you know nothing about perth lol

 

[Bukowski]

Nah

but there’s this thing called google it’s really handy these days

HBF Park

HBF Park is a state-of-the art rectangular stadium providing world class sporting and concert events to all fans. It is home to A-League team, Perth Glory and Premier Rugby Club, Western Force.

www.hbfpark.com.au

Look at that second tier it’s looking over the roof below

and there’s Various other stands next to it

and there is no roof cover

Correct. But that's about 1/4 of the stadium which needs to be rectified. You don't need to blow up the whole thing. One new eastern stand makes it like Newcastle.

 

[Wb1234]

Correct. But that's about 1/4 of the stadium which needs to be rectified. You don't need to blow up the whole thing. One new eastern stand makes it like Newcastle.

At least half needs doing and it will still be average

it should be 2 tiered and roofed all the way round

and the main stand looks so dated and looks like had minimal corporate boxes

 

[Perth Red]

At least half needs doing and it will still be average

it should be 2 tiered and roofed all the way round

and the main stand looks so dated and looks like had minimal corporate boxes

Dont entertain this fool. He's got me on ignore so has literally missed the 2 pages of the discussion on HBF park lol

 

[Bukowski]

At least half needs doing and it will still be average

it should be 2 tiered and roofed all the way round

and the main stand looks so dated and looks like had minimal corporate boxes

Only 5 rectangular stadiums in Australia meet your criteria.

 

[Wb1234]

Only 5 rectangular stadiums in Australia meet your criteria.

Yeh and by coincidence rugby league clubs play at all those grounds

but if you want to defend a ground which is on par with most Sydney suburban grounds be my guest

It’s got one main stand with very limited corporate facilities which looks dated

either end is uncoverered seating

and let’s not even bother talking about that monstrosity that’s opposite the main stand

it’s looks like the scg with the members pavilion etc


maybe Perth should ask Penrith to get some of the stands that are being knocked down they would actually improve hbf “park”

 

[Perth Red]

Just to put the fool right the east stand has open air corporate seating boxes with corporate facilities, bbq terrace, private bars etc are under the stand. (The white sections in the middle 6 sections of the east stand in my photo)
there are about 12k undercover seats at the moment and 1500 under cover standing.
But we do need a new corporate west stand And be nice to get the roof on south stand.
and this looks dated? haha what an idiot.,

 

[MugaB]

Just to put the fool right the east stand has open air corporate seating boxes with corporate facilities, bbq terrace, private bars etc are under the stand. (The white sections in the middle 6 sections of the east stand in my photo)
there are about 12k undercover seats at the moment and 1500 under cover standing.
But we do need a new corporate west stand And be nice to get the roof on south stand.
and this looks dated? haha what an idiot.,View attachment 67848

The stadium is fine, im not sure what we are going on about, yes it might need a few improvements, but its not holding back a new perth team back from acquiring a license, if anything its perfect, take the bigger games to optus like double headers or state of Origin, but as far as the capacity and ground its adequate for a 1st grade NRL side for the moment, till they decide if they want to expand on any renovations