NSW Fullback - Kurt Gidley?

[Pistol]

You want a hooker..ROBBIE FARAH will be the one chosen on the bench.

i think the point CWB is making is Kurt Gidley has more utility value than Robbie Farrah and Ben Hornby

 

[Misanthrope]

You want a hooker..ROBBIE FARAH will be the one chosen on the bench.

I don't want a hooker. I want a utility who can adequately cover almost any specialist position (so not prop or back row, as the rest of the bench can cover that). Kidley can cover all of those and do it well. Hornby can cover all but the pack positions and do it well. Farah could cover hooker, and do it very well.

 

[DeeGan]

Gidley offers more utility value than Farrah or Hornby.

I am not going to bother entering a debate with someone who says otherwise. It's a no brainer.

 

[lockyno1]

i think the point CWB is making is Kurt Gidley has more utility value than Robbie Farrah and Ben Hornby

I just don't see when you will need it though. Mobile backrowers can cover centre anyway, and having a reserve hooker will be more value anyway.

 

[Pistol]

I just don't see when you will need it though. Mobile backrowers can cover centre anyway, and having a reserve hooker will be more value anyway.

Why would I need it??

I am a QLD supporter

 

[Frederick]

I just don't see when you will need it though. Mobile backrowers can cover centre anyway, and having a reserve hooker will be more value anyway.

So what're you going to do when you lose a winger, or fullback then? Then you're forced to shift centres out of their positions to accomodate the second rower playing at centre. Kidley can play all those positions without forcing a reshuffle of the team.

 

[Misanthrope]

I just don't see when you will need it though. Mobile backrowers can cover centre anyway, and having a reserve hooker will be more value anyway.

I'm tempted to follow DeeGan's tactic, but you really don't get it - do you? If there's an injury anywhere outside the pack - Kurt can cover it. Yes, a back rower can cover centre, but I'd much rather a back rower covering for (gasp) a tired back rower. Kidley could slot into the team anywhere outside of prop/second row and do a good job.

 

[lockyno1]

But you are compromising one position to save another. Farah is CLEARLY the 2nd best hooker, so why wouldn't you have him in the squad. By not having him you are forcing Buderus to play 80 in Origin which is damn hard to say the least. It is ok having a utility if he is also the 2nd best hooker but if that is not the case you are compromising the reserve hooker position.

 

[DeeGan]

But you are compromising one position to save another. Farah is CLEARLY the 2nd best hooker, so why wouldn't you have him in the squad. By not having him you are forcing Buderus to play 80 in Origin which is damn hard to say the least. It is ok having a utility if he is also the 2nd best hooker but if that is not the case you are compromising the reserve hooker position.

Name every NSW Origin side since 1980 (oh hell - have a look at QLD as well) with a specialist hooker on the bench.

Look forward to reading.

 

[mxlegend99]

Hornby\Farah > Gidley for utility value.

Quality over Quantity anyday.

 

[Frederick]

Hornby\Farah > Gidley for utility value.

How exactly? What other positions can Farah play? Hornby is only good for the backline, and would get smashed in the forwards.

 

[mxlegend99]

How exactly? What other positions can Farah play? Hornby is only good for the backline, and would get smashed in the forwards.

I already said how.

Hornby\Farah > Gidley for utility value.

Quality over Quantity anyday.

IMO, Farah and Gidley are simply better players in the positions we would use the utility. As for injury, players who are playing are already versatile as it is.

 

[MSIH]

I thought the thread was about fullbacks.

Anyway. Stewart > Gidley and McKinnon and Hodgson and Peachey and the other mugs on the list.

Stewart should be the Blues fullback unless Minichello hits form again.

 

[Misanthrope]

By not having him you are forcing Buderus to play 80 in Origin which is damn hard to say the least.

Gidley off the bench could cover that for the very brief period of time he was off the field, and then slot in elsewhere where needed. Farah, on the other hand, would waste a bench spot for a twenty minute run.

 

[lockyno1]

Gidley off the bench could cover that for the very brief period of time he was off the field, and then slot in elsewhere where needed. Farah, on the other hand, would waste a bench spot for a twenty minute run.

Gidley would waste a bench spot just to "cover" injury. You are better to go with a gamebreaker and that is Farah!

 

[Misanthrope]

You are better to go with a gamebreaker and that is Farah!

You're right. Kurt Gidley has done nothing remotely resembling game breaking in the past two weeks in which he's lead the Knights to wins. His broken field running alone is worth inclusion, especially late in the game against a tiring pack.

 

[lockyno1]

You're right. Kurt Gidley has done nothing remotely resembling game breaking in the past two weeks in which he's lead the Knights to wins. His broken field running alone is worth inclusion, especially late in the game against a tiring pack.

And Farah hasn't? He has a better passing game and better kicking game than Kidley. 2 Half decent games by Kidley and you want him in the NSW side...a year ago half of you wanted him dropped!

 

[Misanthrope]

2 Half decent games by Kidley and you want him in the NSW side...

No, I want him in the side because of his utility value. Having a hooker on the bench is a waste. If Danny doesn't get injured, Farah gets a five or ten minute spell. Since we don't have a Bowen to throw on the bench, Kidley is a good option. He has a great running game and can cover most any position. Farah is a great player, but the NSW side does not need two hookers when Buderus is capable of playing the majority of the game when fit.

a year ago half of you wanted him dropped!

A year ago 'super coach' Michael Hagan insisted on using him as our chief playmaker in Joey's absence.

 

[lockyno1]

Look lets just agree to disagree. This is pointless. I would never pick Kidley, there are quite a few players I'd pick over him any day of the week.

 

[Misanthrope]

There are other utilities I'd pick over him as well, although none spring to mind right now. My point was that a decent utility is far better than a good hooker on the bench.