Off season 2022-23

[Izz]

also rumoured that the Tigers and Panthers will be doing a player swap, Tyrone Peachey for Charlie Staines

Ugh, why would Penrith want to do that? Though I can understand Staines wanting to get more playing time elsewhere

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Flanagan has agreed to terms as Manly assistant, Jim Dymock rumoured to be the other

Maguire signs with the Raiders as their senior consultant

The Seibold/Flanaghan/Dymock trio looks pretty good...whether or not it works at Manly I guess is up in the air.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Ugh, why would Penrith want to do that? Though I can understand Staines wanting to get more playing time elsewhere

Think Staines will be shown to be bog average on the end of any other backline

James Tamou looks to have signed with the Cowboys

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Post mortem shows Paul Greens brain showing severe effects from concussions. Sad story

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Post mortem shows Paul Greens brain showing severe effects from concussions. Sad story

I wonder how many players are now getting MRIs? Should we be doing these before they start NRL and then yearly?
Sorry your brain is showing sign of damage you can no longer play!
Study below shows it isn't concussions but head trauma/injuries. So say goodbye to contact sport!

CTE from head injury not concussion

Do all with CTE suffer?
Would dementia have developed anyway? Had head injury brought it on sooner?

 

[Blair]

I wonder how many players are now getting MRIs? Should we be doing these before they start NRL and then yearly?
Sorry your brain is showing sign of damage you can no longer play!
Study below shows it isn't concussions but head trauma/injuries. So say goodbye to contact sport!

CTE from head injury not concussion

Do all with CTE suffer?
Would dementia have developed anyway? Had head injury brought it on sooner?

The good news is that players no longer stay on the field once they're concussed. In theory, that is.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

I wonder how many players are now getting MRIs? Should we be doing these before they start NRL and then yearly?
Sorry your brain is showing sign of damage you can no longer play!
Study below shows it isn't concussions but head trauma/injuries. So say goodbye to contact sport!

CTE from head injury not concussion

Do all with CTE suffer?
Would dementia have developed anyway? Had head injury brought it on sooner?

From the article I read, at this point in time it is impossible to detect while the person is alive

on a side note, the current 2NZ superstock driver and provincial rugby player Jason Long has today had to retire from both sports due to concussion issues

 

[SpaceMonkey]

I work with a bunch of ex footy players and boxers. They’re definitely not the quickest between the ears and most of them admit it’s affected them

 

[Philip_Smith007]

I work with a bunch of ex footy players and boxers. They’re definitely not the quickest between the ears and most of them admit it’s affected them

No disrespect but we're they the quickest before playing football?

 

[Philip_Smith007]

From the article I read, at this point in time it is impossible to detect while the person is alive

on a side note, the current 2NZ superstock driver and provincial rugby player Jason Long has today had to retire from both sports due to concussion issues

Yeah, they working on it while your alive.

https://www.bumc.bu.edu/busm/2021/1...iving-approach-may-shave-years-off-diagnosis/

It will be finding something to light up tau protein.

 

[Blair]

The two worst concussions I remember seeing were both with the Kiwis.

1985 First Test, Lang Park. Noel 'Bushranger' Cleal puts a stiff arm on captain Mark Graham. A deliberate hit, taking out our leader and best player early. We lost 26-20 and that decided the series. Graham stayed on, of course!

1991 First Test Olympic Park, Melbourne. Dean Lonergan got sandwiched between two Kangaroo brutes (Siro and Roach?) and landed badly. He was out for the count and started to convulse. Awful viewing but he stayed on, and starred, in a famous win.

These days both players would've been off straight away.

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Like a lot of medical conditons there are a lot of questions and will be a lot of variations between people.
Some could have multiple concussion and no issues and others could have a dozen and develop it. So it will mean monitoring as best we can during players careers.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

No disrespect but we're they the quickest before playing football?

Haha they’re a mixed bunch.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

The two worst concussions I remenber seeing were both with the Kiwis.

1985 First Test, Lang Park. Noel 'Bushranger' Cleal puts a stiff arm on captain Mark Graham. A deliberate hit, taking out our leader and best player early. We lost 26-20 and that decided the series. Graham stayed on, of course!

1991 First Test Olympic Park, Melbourne. Dean Lonergan got sandwiched between two Kangaroo brutes (Siro and Roach?) and landed badly. He was out for the count and started to convulse. Awful viewing but he stayed on, and starred, in a famous win.

These days both players would've been off straight away.

I remember the second one, that was awful. Lonergan is lucky, still seems sharp and showing no effects.

List of NFL players with chronic traumatic encephalopathy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Read that for a chilling glimpse into CTE. Yet the NFL still has a situation like the Tua Tagovailoa one a month back. It's truly f**ked.

 

[Blair]

I remember the second one, that was awful. Lonergan is lucky, still seems sharp and showing no effects.

I think he went from the field but returned, rather than simply getting up (eventually) and carrying on. Either way, he didn't 'take no further part in the game' as what would happen now.

Graham stayed on, groggy and wobbly as, and eventually went off. Even then, as a 15-year-old, I thought he shouldn't have continued. We basically played with 12 men whilst he tried to clear his head.

Luck comes into it. Boxing greats Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas 'Hit Man' Hearns' famously crossed paths in the 1980s. Today, Ray sounds fine, whilst Tommy is buggered.

Ditto Tyson, good as gold. And he got badly hit in the end.

 

[Philip_Smith007]

I remember the second one, that was awful. Lonergan is lucky, still seems sharp and showing no effects.

List of NFL players with chronic traumatic encephalopathy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Read that for a chilling glimpse into CTE. Yet the NFL still has a situation like the Tua Tagovailoa one a month back. It's truly f**ked.

But he hurt his back!!!
They changed some wording in their rules pretty quick after that!
Some interesting developments in using VR to test concussion and recovery time.

 

[JJ]

The two worst concussions I remember seeing were both with the Kiwis.

1985 First Test, Lang Park. Noel 'Bushranger' Cleal puts a stiff arm on captain Mark Graham. A deliberate hit, taking out our leader and best player early. We lost 26-20 and that decided the series. Graham stayed on, of course!

The Crusher was a hell of a player though, loved everything about him except that he played for those Manly f**kers...

Don't recall much in the way of cheap shots from him, devastating ball runner

 

[Blair]

My Parra mole told me this morning that 'all clubs particulary worry at this time of year about young players that don't have a family to go home to'. It's trouble waiting to happen.

I also asked whether Papali'i was off to the Tigers and he said yes. He added he won't be missed due to being too slow, with no lateral movement, missing 12 crucial tackles in the GF after being targeted by Penrith. Parra want changes next year, pace and mobility are key elements they need.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Andrew Fifita is done. Had interest from Manly and Canterbury but needs too many thing fixed to carry on

 

[Penrose Warrior]

I think he went from the field but returned, rather than simply getting up (eventually) and carrying on. Either way, he didn't 'take no further part in the game' as what would happen now.

Graham stayed on, groggy and wobbly as, and eventually went off. Even then, as a 15-year-old, I thought he shouldn't have continued. We basically played with 12 men whilst he tried to clear his head.

Luck comes into it. Boxing greats Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas 'Hit Man' Hearns' famously crossed paths in the 1980s. Today, Ray sounds fine, whilst Tommy is buggered.

Ditto Tyson, good as gold. And he got badly hit in the end.

I'm in the minority but I hate boxing with a passion. UFC even more so. A sport where it is the explicit aim to cause a brain injury on someone, where it's celebrated in fact - the more dramatic, the better.