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Starkers

Bench
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sorry if this has been posted elsewhere. one for the good guys anyway. i put it in here seeing as though roy is a panelist on offsiders.

The AFL's boast of vast increases in participation numbers in western Sydney is misleading, according to a report commissioned by one of its key stakeholders.
This month's report, prepared by a Melbourne University academic at the request of AFL NSW/ACT, supports what many rugby league administrators have been saying for some time - the AFL is using registrations in its modified game of Auskick to bolster actual playing numbers.
The research appears to seriously question a claim last month by an AFL NSW senior official that participation numbers in the western Sydney region have grown by 27 per cent, or 10,000 players, in a single year.
Under the heading, ''Western Sydney - The Reality versus Perception Gap'', the report's author, David Lawson, notes: ''The reality is that junior club maturity and participation numbers appear to have stalled. There are 6 [per cent] less junior/youth players in 2012 than in 2009. The perception, however, is that the game is growing well. This perception is supported by masking low junior club numbers with Auskick numbers (Club, School and Community Auskick) and school program numbers. This optimistic, bullish perception is needed to market the game, however this perception urgently needs to be underpinned by committed junior club participants.''
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Government officials at federal, state and local levels, who have poured millions of dollars into Auskick programs believing it encourages children to play regular sport, might also be alarmed to learn it can undermine actual playing numbers in Australian football.
The report says: ''In the chase for participant numbers in NSW and ACT, a shortened and often subsidised version of Auskick has been aggressively rolled out in primary schools (In-School Auskick) and after-school centres (Community Auskick) … Junior club feedback has indicated that the In-School and Community versions have, at times, harmed Club Auskick.''
It appears Sydney kids, brought up on modified versions of other football codes, might be different to children from other capitals, preferring competitive games to skill practices.
The report says, ''Soccer, rugby league and rugby union introductory programs essentially comprise modified games whereas Auskick centres concentrate on skill acquisition drills. Interviews and surveys have suggested that in Sydney there is a preference for more game-based activities to complement skill-based content.''
No surprise, therefore, the section on juniors concludes: ''Converting young Australian football samplers into regular club participants with the subsequent engagement of parents, friends and colleagues, has not yet been as successful.''
The report is at odds with a media report on September 14, quoting AFL NSW's Dean Connors, that Australian football participation in western Sydney rose 27 per cent this year, with administrators confident the full impact of the region's new AFL club, GWS Giants, is yet to be felt.
''We've grown at this stage by 27per cent from last year's participation, which was 28,306,'' Connors is quoted as saying. ''There's been substantial growth from a very high base, so we're up around that 36,000-37,000 mark in participation in greater western Sydney.''
Both AFL surveys and Connors define a ''participant'' as a ''no-less-than-six-weeks paying customer'', but according to the AFL NSW/ACT report, playing numbers in junior Australian football across all of Sydney last year was 7694.
When AFL NSW applied to Leichhardt Council to install AFL goal posts on rugby league's birthplace, Birchgrove Oval, it withdrew when asked to verify its playing numbers.
Nor is there any reason to boast about Sydney's senior numbers.
The report says: ''With the growth of senior numbers halving (from 8 [per cent] to 4 per cent]), under-18s growth dropping from 12 [per cent] to 4 [per cent] and significantly more 100-point victories in 2012 in U18 division 1 and premier divisions, there appears good reason to maintain a watching brief.''
While the figures were tallied before the Swans won this year's AFL premiership, this might merely widen the perception of the gap between the best and worst clubs.
The Giants also come in for criticism for not focusing on community programs, although the federal government recently advanced them $2 million for this purpose.
The report says: ''It appears that the principle [sic] objective of the Giants Academy is to identify recruits to draft for the GWS Giants. Altruistic objectives such as improving the standard of club football in the region and positioning Australian football as the sport of choice do not currently appear high on [its] agenda.''
The Giants' Nick Johnston defended the role of the academy, saying: ''We had about 300 kids aged between 13 and 18 through our academy program this year. They included kids from Indian, Sudanese and indigenous communities in western Sydney as well as regional NSW. We think it's been a great success, albeit that it is still in its infancy.''
 

Far Canal

Juniors
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It is really sad actualy - the bias is so lopesided that you would be right in thinking the AFL controls the contents of the show. But last I checked, it was funded by us, the taxpayers.
 

taipan

Referee
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Seemed dominated by the racing.Suggest wait til next Sunday to see if that mob bring up the Folau return,the strategic plan and logo and the tanking.If they dont they will get another reminder from me of their bias.

Have sent two in the past mentioning their blatant bias,and they maintain they give the code a fair go with John Stanley and the ru guy Freeir(because his dad played rl).LOL.

They skewer rl when there is an offield incident or a defection,but any good news on rl is hidden.A public broadcaster that you and I pay for.:x
 

Patorick

Moderator
Staff member
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Watched the replay of last Sunday.

Debate between Francis and Caroline was very compelling.

Good show, but as always needs a league person (other than Roy 'Melbourne' Masters or John "Porky Elmer" Stanley).

The comparison's erroneous, but I think the AFL have to have a look at how the NRL handle their All Stars game compared with the AFL, which really paled by comparison. - Caroline Wilson
 
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BDR

First Grade
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Caroline annoys the shit out of me, every single thing is about AFL. They were discussing the NRL All-Stars match and the first thing she did was talk about how the AFL All-Stars isn't as good.

I know she was paying league a compliment, but why the f**k was that even relevant? Just wanted to slip in a few words about the other game.
 

Patorick

Moderator
Staff member
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She'll say a positive thing about the NRL every other year, so you take what you can.
 

j5o6hn

Juniors
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After watching last Sundays Offsiders I want to know how a I assume paid AFL plant gets away with it but then Cassidy and the rest are AFL supporters and brook no criticisms of their beloved code.
How that fool from the SMH gets a gig as he is another AFL sycophant PS according to the Union People Folau is the savior of Union,untill he gets a better offer that is
 

Lockyer4President!

First Grade
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It beggars belief that they have no RL personalities as a regular but have a few AFL types each weekend.

It'd be like a Sportscenter having no-one with a background in NFL on the show... Just a joke
 

Patorick

Moderator
Staff member
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After watching last Sundays Offsiders I want to know how a I assume paid AFL plant gets away with it but then Cassidy and the rest are AFL supporters and brook no criticisms of their beloved code.
How that fool from the SMH gets a gig as he is another AFL sycophant PS according to the Union People Folau is the savior of Union,untill he gets a better offer that is
Please specify.
 

Clarke

Juniors
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471
It beggars belief that they have no RL personalities as a regular but have a few AFL types each weekend.

It'd be like a Sportscenter having no-one with a background in NFL on the show... Just a joke

Wait, you're telling me that the offsiders isn't a comedy and people actually watch it?

C'mon people answer is obvious. If the show annoys you or does not deliver want you want in a show of this nature, stop watching it instead of getting angry over it.
 

miguel de cervantes

First Grade
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It's a good show and has potential, they just need to be less biased towards AFL. I guess the show is produced in Melbourne so what can you expect. The NRL should be proactive and offer to get someone on there.
 

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